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On February 02 2015 19:00 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 18:58 ref4 wrote:On February 02 2015 18:55 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On February 02 2015 18:54 ref4 wrote:On February 02 2015 18:53 goody153 wrote:On February 02 2015 18:51 DarkReign_ wrote: The problem with VG's late game decision is Black. Mistake upon mistake by him cost VG a lot of games it was really hard for black when 3 heroes of the opponent team can blow you up once you get caught .. then it means FY got drafted into a corner i think that's a horrible way to describe a 3rd pick sniper... like "oh no these 4 heroes from the first phase... these 8 bans... i need sniper now! he's the only hero that works here!" I didn't watch the draft, was Viper banned in that game? I think FY wants the Sniper to bully the SF, but if that is the case, then a viper would have done the same thing, and can stand toe to toe with Secret's cores in the late game too. i could probably list a bunch of black heroes that would be better than either sniper or viper there, but at this point it's all pointless theorycrafting I would even say, swap Super with Black (Sniper/Axe)
Black's Axe its pretty amazing
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On February 02 2015 18:58 beifru wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 18:55 Faruko wrote: While back had issues that game, it was a super hard game for a Sniper (not to mention 3rd pick), new QoP, Clock and SF (with Euls/Blink build) can kill him in a matter of seconds
Not to mention Super was failing left and right with his Axe Black seemingly has issues every game that VG loses. Maybe Black is the issue himself.
or maybe it's like the those statements like "HEY SECRET IS GONNA GET SHIT ON CAUSE BIGDADDY THE 4 POS SUPPORT AND KKY WILL DEFINETLY MAKE THEM WEAKER"
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On February 02 2015 18:57 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 18:55 beifru wrote:On February 02 2015 18:48 Azarkon wrote:On February 02 2015 18:45 goody153 wrote:On February 02 2015 18:43 Azarkon wrote: They won't choke. VG are the chokers. they ain't invincible yow .. VG can take a series of Secret i think. In theory, yes. In practice, it greatly favors Secret. VG has shown themselves to be chokers when they're challenged to the core of their being by opponents of equal/greater caliber. Alright... and you are basing it off a bad day... VG is a championship team (RTZ said it himself). If anything Secret has never taken a series off VG yet. The semi finals will be interesting. The old Secret, yea. The old Secret won't have gone 15-0 in DAC.
Im sure you understand that playing in a hotel room is very different from playing on stage infront of thousands of Chinese.
Also the meta after the three day break will be vastly different. It will be no surprise if Secret drops a series out of the blue and ends up on the lower bracket.
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On February 02 2015 19:00 Faruko wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 18:58 beifru wrote:On February 02 2015 18:55 Faruko wrote: While back had issues that game, it was a super hard game for a Sniper (not to mention 3rd pick), new QoP, Clock and SF (with Euls/Blink build) can kill him in a matter of seconds
Not to mention Super was failing left and right with his Axe Black seemingly has issues every game that VG loses. Maybe Black is the issue himself. you could be right, to be fair, i havent watch all of VG games (which seems i will be pretty much alone in the office today, its a nice way to waste my day rofl) Will surely do He's almost non-existent when VG was ahead. Like the match against BG. He was clueless that game.
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On February 02 2015 19:01 govie wrote: Good morning, what games should i watch in a replay? thx! eg vs secret was a bit sloppy, but it's a hyped game...
i dunno, i wouldn't call any of these games essential to watch.
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@beifru, Secret is guaranteed 2-0 in a first series against C9/LGD.
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Even after going 15-0, the team can still just lose 3 games and drop out of the tourny. I know its unlikely, but the playoff format is terrible.
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On February 02 2015 19:03 DarkReign_ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 19:00 Faruko wrote:On February 02 2015 18:58 beifru wrote:On February 02 2015 18:55 Faruko wrote: While back had issues that game, it was a super hard game for a Sniper (not to mention 3rd pick), new QoP, Clock and SF (with Euls/Blink build) can kill him in a matter of seconds
Not to mention Super was failing left and right with his Axe Black seemingly has issues every game that VG loses. Maybe Black is the issue himself. you could be right, to be fair, i havent watch all of VG games (which seems i will be pretty much alone in the office today, its a nice way to waste my day rofl) Will surely do He's almost non-existent when VG was ahead. Like the match against BG. He was clueless that game. again, is it the player or the hero? why does fy keep picking sniper when black seems to be unable to be of use with him?
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On February 02 2015 19:02 beifru wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 18:57 Azarkon wrote:On February 02 2015 18:55 beifru wrote:On February 02 2015 18:48 Azarkon wrote:On February 02 2015 18:45 goody153 wrote:On February 02 2015 18:43 Azarkon wrote: They won't choke. VG are the chokers. they ain't invincible yow .. VG can take a series of Secret i think. In theory, yes. In practice, it greatly favors Secret. VG has shown themselves to be chokers when they're challenged to the core of their being by opponents of equal/greater caliber. Alright... and you are basing it off a bad day... VG is a championship team (RTZ said it himself). If anything Secret has never taken a series off VG yet. The semi finals will be interesting. The old Secret, yea. The old Secret won't have gone 15-0 in DAC. I m sure you understand that playing in a hotel room is very different from playing on stage infront of thousands of Chinese.
Also the meta after the three day break will be vastly different. It will be no surprise if Secret drops a series out of the blue and ends up on the lower bracket.
You are saying that as if neither of Secret has ever play (and won) a tournament in China, actually if that Alienware cup was offline, all of Secret players has play and won a tournament in China
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On February 02 2015 19:01 govie wrote: Good morning, what games should i watch in a replay? thx! VG vs. BG EG vs. Secret Secret vs. VG BG vs. EG
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On February 02 2015 19:03 ForTehDarkseid wrote: @beifru, Secret is guaranteed 2-0 in a first series against C9/LGD.
I wouldn't say anything is guaranteed.
Look at TI5. People said the winner was gonna come from the EG vs DK semis. Then both got shat on by VG and Newbee. The meta changes in the playoffs and nothing is guaranteed.
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thx! guys. ill check those out
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On February 02 2015 19:04 babysimba wrote: Even after going 15-0, the team can still just lose 3 games and drop out of the tourny. I know its unlikely, but the playoff format is terrible. Could be a TI2 LGD scenario but I doubt it. LGD is too passive and YAO is in the way all the time. C9...Too inconsistent but might surprise tho.
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I am now a loyal Secret/Liquid fan!
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Any team should be afraid of going against c9. They are the team capable of going 50-50 against any other team
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Northern Ireland22208 Posts
so did anyone predict newbee wouldn't make it out of groups? sad compendium owner here
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bigdaddy wisp... please have an on day
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On February 02 2015 19:08 meegrean wrote: I am now a loyal Secret/Liquid fan! LGD.INT yo
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Just to know, who is the biggest gaming organization in China ?
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On February 02 2015 19:11 Faruko wrote: Just to know, who is the biggest gaming organization in China ?
I think that would be Tencent which owns Riot gaming and LoL
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