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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-02 10:01:59
February 02 2015 10:01 GMT
#1041
On February 02 2015 19:00 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 18:58 ref4 wrote:
On February 02 2015 18:55 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On February 02 2015 18:54 ref4 wrote:
On February 02 2015 18:53 goody153 wrote:
On February 02 2015 18:51 DarkReign_ wrote:
The problem with VG's late game decision is Black.
Mistake upon mistake by him cost VG a lot of games

it was really hard for black when 3 heroes of the opponent team can blow you up once you get caught ..


then it means FY got drafted into a corner

i think that's a horrible way to describe a 3rd pick sniper... like "oh no these 4 heroes from the first phase... these 8 bans... i need sniper now! he's the only hero that works here!"


I didn't watch the draft, was Viper banned in that game? I think FY wants the Sniper to bully the SF, but if that is the case, then a viper would have done the same thing, and can stand toe to toe with Secret's cores in the late game too.

i could probably list a bunch of black heroes that would be better than either sniper or viper there, but at this point it's all pointless theorycrafting

I would even say, swap Super with Black (Sniper/Axe)

Black's Axe its pretty amazing
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44094 Posts
February 02 2015 10:02 GMT
#1042
On February 02 2015 18:58 beifru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 18:55 Faruko wrote:
While back had issues that game, it was a super hard game for a Sniper (not to mention 3rd pick), new QoP, Clock and SF (with Euls/Blink build) can kill him in a matter of seconds

Not to mention Super was failing left and right with his Axe


Black seemingly has issues every game that VG loses.

Maybe Black is the issue himself.


or maybe it's like the those statements like "HEY SECRET IS GONNA GET SHIT ON CAUSE BIGDADDY THE 4 POS SUPPORT AND KKY WILL DEFINETLY MAKE THEM WEAKER"

this is a quote
beifru
Profile Joined November 2013
2164 Posts
February 02 2015 10:02 GMT
#1043
On February 02 2015 18:57 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 18:55 beifru wrote:
On February 02 2015 18:48 Azarkon wrote:
On February 02 2015 18:45 goody153 wrote:
On February 02 2015 18:43 Azarkon wrote:
They won't choke. VG are the chokers.

they ain't invincible yow .. VG can take a series of Secret i think.


In theory, yes. In practice, it greatly favors Secret. VG has shown themselves to be chokers when they're challenged to the core of their being by opponents of equal/greater caliber.


Alright... and you are basing it off a bad day... VG is a championship team (RTZ said it himself).

If anything Secret has never taken a series off VG yet. The semi finals will be interesting.


The old Secret, yea.

The old Secret won't have gone 15-0 in DAC.


Im sure you understand that playing in a hotel room is very different from playing on stage infront of thousands of Chinese.

Also the meta after the three day break will be vastly different. It will be no surprise if Secret drops a series out of the blue and ends up on the lower bracket.
DarkReign_
Profile Joined September 2012
1250 Posts
February 02 2015 10:03 GMT
#1044
On February 02 2015 19:00 Faruko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 18:58 beifru wrote:
On February 02 2015 18:55 Faruko wrote:
While back had issues that game, it was a super hard game for a Sniper (not to mention 3rd pick), new QoP, Clock and SF (with Euls/Blink build) can kill him in a matter of seconds

Not to mention Super was failing left and right with his Axe


Black seemingly has issues every game that VG loses.

Maybe Black is the issue himself.



you could be right, to be fair, i havent watch all of VG games (which seems i will be pretty much alone in the office today, its a nice way to waste my day rofl)

Will surely do

He's almost non-existent when VG was ahead.
Like the match against BG. He was clueless that game.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
February 02 2015 10:03 GMT
#1045
On February 02 2015 19:01 govie wrote:
Good morning, what games should i watch in a replay? thx!

eg vs secret was a bit sloppy, but it's a hyped game...

i dunno, i wouldn't call any of these games essential to watch.
posting on liquid sites in current year
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
February 02 2015 10:03 GMT
#1046
@beifru, Secret is guaranteed 2-0 in a first series against C9/LGD.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
February 02 2015 10:04 GMT
#1047
Even after going 15-0, the team can still just lose 3 games and drop out of the tourny. I know its unlikely, but the playoff format is terrible.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
February 02 2015 10:04 GMT
#1048
On February 02 2015 19:03 DarkReign_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 19:00 Faruko wrote:
On February 02 2015 18:58 beifru wrote:
On February 02 2015 18:55 Faruko wrote:
While back had issues that game, it was a super hard game for a Sniper (not to mention 3rd pick), new QoP, Clock and SF (with Euls/Blink build) can kill him in a matter of seconds

Not to mention Super was failing left and right with his Axe


Black seemingly has issues every game that VG loses.

Maybe Black is the issue himself.



you could be right, to be fair, i havent watch all of VG games (which seems i will be pretty much alone in the office today, its a nice way to waste my day rofl)

Will surely do

He's almost non-existent when VG was ahead.
Like the match against BG. He was clueless that game.

again, is it the player or the hero? why does fy keep picking sniper when black seems to be unable to be of use with him?
posting on liquid sites in current year
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-02 10:06:41
February 02 2015 10:05 GMT
#1049
On February 02 2015 19:02 beifru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2015 18:57 Azarkon wrote:
On February 02 2015 18:55 beifru wrote:
On February 02 2015 18:48 Azarkon wrote:
On February 02 2015 18:45 goody153 wrote:
On February 02 2015 18:43 Azarkon wrote:
They won't choke. VG are the chokers.

they ain't invincible yow .. VG can take a series of Secret i think.


In theory, yes. In practice, it greatly favors Secret. VG has shown themselves to be chokers when they're challenged to the core of their being by opponents of equal/greater caliber.


Alright... and you are basing it off a bad day... VG is a championship team (RTZ said it himself).

If anything Secret has never taken a series off VG yet. The semi finals will be interesting.


The old Secret, yea.

The old Secret won't have gone 15-0 in DAC.


Im sure you understand that playing in a hotel room is very different from playing on stage infront of thousands of Chinese.

Also the meta after the three day break will be vastly different. It will be no surprise if Secret drops a series out of the blue and ends up on the lower bracket.


You are saying that as if neither of Secret has ever play (and won) a tournament in China, actually if that Alienware cup was offline, all of Secret players has play and won a tournament in China
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-02 10:12:16
February 02 2015 10:05 GMT
#1050
On February 02 2015 19:01 govie wrote:
Good morning, what games should i watch in a replay? thx!

VG vs. BG
EG vs. Secret
Secret vs. VG
BG vs. EG
rip
beifru
Profile Joined November 2013
2164 Posts
February 02 2015 10:06 GMT
#1051
On February 02 2015 19:03 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
@beifru, Secret is guaranteed 2-0 in a first series against C9/LGD.


I wouldn't say anything is guaranteed.

Look at TI5. People said the winner was gonna come from the EG vs DK semis. Then both got shat on by VG and Newbee. The meta changes in the playoffs and nothing is guaranteed.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
February 02 2015 10:06 GMT
#1052
thx! guys. ill check those out
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
DarkReign_
Profile Joined September 2012
1250 Posts
February 02 2015 10:06 GMT
#1053
On February 02 2015 19:04 babysimba wrote:
Even after going 15-0, the team can still just lose 3 games and drop out of the tourny. I know its unlikely, but the playoff format is terrible.

Could be a TI2 LGD scenario but I doubt it.
LGD is too passive and YAO is in the way all the time.
C9...Too inconsistent but might surprise tho.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
February 02 2015 10:08 GMT
#1054
I am now a loyal Secret/Liquid fan!
Brood War loyalist
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
February 02 2015 10:08 GMT
#1055
Any team should be afraid of going against c9. They are the team capable of going 50-50 against any other team
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
February 02 2015 10:09 GMT
#1056
so did anyone predict newbee wouldn't make it out of groups? sad compendium owner here
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
February 02 2015 10:09 GMT
#1057
bigdaddy wisp... please have an on day
posting on liquid sites in current year
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44094 Posts
February 02 2015 10:09 GMT
#1058
On February 02 2015 19:08 meegrean wrote:
I am now a loyal Secret/Liquid fan!

LGD.INT yo
this is a quote
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-02 10:12:09
February 02 2015 10:11 GMT
#1059
Just to know, who is the biggest gaming organization in China ?
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
February 02 2015 10:13 GMT
#1060
On February 02 2015 19:11 Faruko wrote:
Just to know, who is the biggest gaming organization in China ?


I think that would be Tencent which owns Riot gaming and LoL
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