EPTi am not sure, thinking my bet is 322
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Nymzee
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i am not sure, thinking my bet is 322 | ||
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govie
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
Let's do this, boys! | ||
Shaella
United States14827 Posts
there is no inbetween | ||
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Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
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CmdZOD
France20 Posts
 VG comp couldn't push or rosh for their life. I mean when they got a full team wipe, they could only convert it into a tier 1... I wonder how a Bristleback would have fared. On the other hand, it seems Chen is an instaban when you're playing against secret. I find it kinda ironic as the hero disappeard from the meta prior to this tournament. I wonder who will figure out secret and have the skill to take them head on in a Bo3. It's cool for the tournament story to have a team acting as the big bad wolf. | ||
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Xendarii
327 Posts
On February 02 2015 19:18 Nymzee wrote: bone7 magnus i am not sure, thinking my bet is 322 He might have a good day. At least he played a good Clock against IG, especially in the laning phase. | ||
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Exoteric
Australia2330 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On February 02 2015 18:58 fixed_point wrote: It still stands that new Secret has never played a series with VG. I don't understand the need to be so cynical. Yes, there is a world where Secret chokes in a Bo3, VG wins, and the world goes back to the way it was. I fully agree that such a scenario exists. After all, LGD did go 14-0 in TI 2 and then lose to Na'Vi. But sit down and analyze this for a moment. Just a moment. Secret is made up of five of the best Dota players the world has ever seen, each known for their ability to literally dictate games when they are having a great time. Its strategies are developed by three of the best minds the Dota world has ever produced - Puppey, Kuroky, and S4. It is captained by two of the best shotcallers in all of Dota - Puppey and S4. It is literally the Western Dream Team with only a small bit of wiggle room for best-in-slot. For example, I'd accept that Dendi instead of Arteezy is an acceptable exchange, even though Arteezy is currently > Dendi. I'd accept that Icex3/Universe instead of Zai is okay. I'd accept PPD instead of Puppey/Kky, even though I believe the latter have greater experience. And I'd accept that Loda instead of Arteezy is not too bad. But practically speaking? There's no change that I'd make. Provided these players are able to work together - and they obviously are, else they won't have gone 15-0 in DAC - they are the best Dream Team that's ever been created. Forget your Newbee and your VG and your DK. Those teams are great, don't get me wrong, but they don't have the same amount of raw intelligence that Secret presently holds. There are a lot of players at the level of Puppey, Kuroky, Zai, even Arteezy and S4. But there aren't a lot of captains who've led teams to TI championships the way Puppey and S4 have done. No other team in the game has ever gathered together such an amount of expert experience and raw talent. Personally, I feel a bit sorry for the Western teams. Secret has concentrated such a great amount of Western captain talent in one team that other teams are starved of proper leadership. Is there an equal to Secret in the West? I don't think so. Not presently. Is there in the East? We're going to find out, but I also don't think so. They have the ability to create such a team - eg put Icex3, Xiao8, Burning, Fy, and Lanm in the same team, and have Zhou coach the team - but that'd do the same to China what the formation of Secret has done to the West - it'd starve other teams of leadership & intelligence. A lot of us were afraid for Secret only because we thought that the team was going to have poor chemistry, personalities are going to clash, etc. But in their honeymoon period, when unity and passion is high, that hasn't occurred. In which case, these five guys being dedicated to a single goal, a single purpose... There's no way to say they're not the favorites vs. any other team in the world. | ||
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Nymzee
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bone7 mid vs storm lol | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
also i highly support the 0 inventory start, i love that start on mid, bottle > everything | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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RiZu
Singapore5715 Posts
On February 02 2015 19:19 CmdZOD wrote: Pretty sad for VG after their match against Secret. It kinda seems like they were dicking around, picking Sniper as their only core, Enigma with no real wombo-combo and lack of strategic focus. Poor Sniper got chased all around the map and initiated upon from 1000+ range for half the match VG comp couldn't push or rosh for their life. I mean when they got a full team wipe, they could only convert it into a tier 1... I wonder how a Bristleback would have fared. On the other hand, it seems Chen is an instaban when you're playing against secret. I find it kinda ironic as the hero disappeard from the meta prior to this tournament. I wonder who will figure out secret and have the skill to take them head on in a Bo3. It's cool for the tournament story to have a team acting as the big bad wolf. It would be hilarious if BG was the one who ultimately figured them out. I mean it Lamn, this guy is one of if not the best drafter in history. His only limitation was honestly Mushi's hero pools back in DK. Nevertheless, Mushi is still an essential asset to DK's success. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On February 02 2015 19:23 RiZu wrote: It would be hilarious if BG was the one who ultimately figured them out. I mean it Lamn, this guy is one of if not the best drafter in history. His only limitation was honestly Mushi's hero pools back in DK. Nevertheless, Mushi is still an essential asset to DK's success. doesn't xiao8 draft for BG? i think Mushi was probably one of the most disappointing members of DK | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On February 02 2015 19:22 opterown wrote: I actually think DK last year had the strongest star power, not Secret. apples and oranges imo... | ||
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ForTehDarkseid
8139 Posts
On February 02 2015 19:17 opterown wrote: i think your memory is much shorter and frankly highly inaccurate -Lost to Fnatic, Liquid, iG, -Struggled against Empire, Arrow, NaviUs edited for a greater justice. | ||
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goody153
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On February 02 2015 19:18 Nymzee wrote: bone7 magnus i am not sure, thinking my bet is 322 we're fucked boys | ||
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RiZu
Singapore5715 Posts
On February 02 2015 19:24 opterown wrote: doesn't xiao8 draft for BG? i think Mushi was probably one of the most disappointing members of DK Considering the facts they had 4 drafters, I assume they draft together one way or another. | ||
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