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On October 10 2014 01:01 DavoS wrote: So instead of bitching about pauses, let's theorycraft! Crystal Maiden; is she back to being viable, or is it the lack of stuns from Navi lets her get away with doing whatever she wants in fights? Since she was such an early pick, was it just a bad draft that lets her work? She's ok
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luckily i know that this will happend and prepared myself with days of antihyping the event.
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Yet another awful big tournament with awful servers.
Holy shit this needs to stop.
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On October 10 2014 01:01 DavoS wrote: So instead of bitching about pauses, let's theorycraft! Crystal Maiden; is she back to being viable, or is it the lack of stuns from Navi lets her get away with doing whatever she wants in fights? Since she was such an early pick, was it just a bad draft that lets her work?
fy makes anything viable
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On October 10 2014 01:02 Manit0u wrote: If I were one of the players I think I'd go on the strike stating that it's not possible to concentrate and perform to the fullest of my potential under this circumstances. And who would this strike be aimed at? ESL? Valve?
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On October 10 2014 01:01 DavoS wrote: So instead of bitching about pauses, let's theorycraft! Crystal Maiden; is she back to being viable, or is it the lack of stuns from Navi lets her get away with doing whatever she wants in fights? Since she was such an early pick, was it just a bad draft that lets her work? I think she was picked to interact with enchantress early (freeze creeps) and to help her mana hungry lanes mid and off. I don't think she's particularly good in general though.
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On October 10 2014 01:00 Elyvilon wrote: ESL is proving to be an excellent followup to WCA obv Navi is bribing someone to ruin their connection to games so their fanboys can blame their losses on something external
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I just want navi to play a game without any fucking issues :-/
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Wait so it's the PCs fault and not the internet?
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On October 10 2014 01:03 Gevna wrote: I just want navi to play a game without any fucking issues :-/
it feels bad to say but tbh since its always with navi might be something with them ...
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Funny how the 2 posts above me worked out 
nvm got bumped down ...
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On October 10 2014 01:01 caiovigg wrote: I have my fucking PC for 2 years and it never had problems, ESL can't make a brand new one works zzzzz
When you plug your shit into a new computer you've never tried before and with very minimal testing you just start a game it's quite likely there will be some complications.
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If it's really PC issues, they should have made it a BYOC in a basement and call it ESL old school.
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On October 10 2014 01:03 DavoS wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 01:00 Elyvilon wrote: ESL is proving to be an excellent followup to WCA obv Navi is bribing someone to ruin their connection to games so their fanboys can blame their losses on something external
Like the separatist groups in their home country?
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On October 10 2014 01:04 Procake wrote: Wait so it's the PCs fault and not the internet?
dont know, i do recall that sometimes a load doesnt work for a player, so they did the load again and then someone else just couldnt get in the game, so it looked like something that wasn't the server. mind you tho, that was a long time ago (winter 2012 sometime i think)
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3 AM. Need to up at 7. Wanted to watch just one game before bed, then this shit. Oh god why.
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As far as I can tell the problems are not due to DDoS. It looks like a bug with the server dropping everyone at once, a bunch of bad PCs and buggy save / reload code.
A DDoS against the game or venue would manifest as the entire game lagging and eventually everyone dropping. Instant drops are not a DDoS - the client and server have timeout values so even if you pulled the network cable out your client wouldn't disconnect for 30 seconds. As there is no lag before the drops this seems to indicate a programming bug in the network code where a timeout is triggering when it shouldn't be.
It's easy to blame everything on DDoS but it's kind of unlikely from what I've seen so far.
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On October 10 2014 01:06 LimitSEA wrote: 3 AM. Need to up at 7. Wanted to watch just one game before bed, then this shit. Oh god why.
you shouldn't have tried, if you'd gotten up slightly earlier you could've watched some dota as well - probably the same series anyway
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oh its so awesome to be right.
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On October 10 2014 01:05 nojok wrote: If it's really PC issues, they should have made it a BYOC in a basement and call it ESL old school. Redeye hosts with a skateboard and walkman, wearing a backwards baseball cap and calling everything gnarly.
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