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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
October 09 2014 16:02 GMT
#381
On October 10 2014 01:01 DavoS wrote:
So instead of bitching about pauses, let's theorycraft!
Crystal Maiden; is she back to being viable, or is it the lack of stuns from Navi lets her get away with doing whatever she wants in fights? Since she was such an early pick, was it just a bad draft that lets her work?

She's ok
The Bomber boy
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
October 09 2014 16:02 GMT
#382
luckily i know that this will happend and prepared myself with days of antihyping the event.
Headnoob
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2108 Posts
October 09 2014 16:02 GMT
#383
Yet another awful big tournament with awful servers.

Holy shit this needs to stop.
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
October 09 2014 16:02 GMT
#384
On October 10 2014 01:01 DavoS wrote:
So instead of bitching about pauses, let's theorycraft!
Crystal Maiden; is she back to being viable, or is it the lack of stuns from Navi lets her get away with doing whatever she wants in fights? Since she was such an early pick, was it just a bad draft that lets her work?


fy makes anything viable
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
October 09 2014 16:02 GMT
#385
On October 10 2014 01:02 Manit0u wrote:
If I were one of the players I think I'd go on the strike stating that it's not possible to concentrate and perform to the fullest of my potential under this circumstances.

And who would this strike be aimed at? ESL? Valve?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 09 2014 16:03 GMT
#386
On October 10 2014 01:01 DavoS wrote:
So instead of bitching about pauses, let's theorycraft!
Crystal Maiden; is she back to being viable, or is it the lack of stuns from Navi lets her get away with doing whatever she wants in fights? Since she was such an early pick, was it just a bad draft that lets her work?

I think she was picked to interact with enchantress early (freeze creeps) and to help her mana hungry lanes mid and off. I don't think she's particularly good in general though.
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DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
October 09 2014 16:03 GMT
#387
On October 10 2014 01:00 Elyvilon wrote:
ESL is proving to be an excellent followup to WCA

obv Navi is bribing someone to ruin their connection to games so their fanboys can blame their losses on something external
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
October 09 2014 16:03 GMT
#388
I just want navi to play a game without any fucking issues :-/
Procake
Profile Joined December 2013
3803 Posts
October 09 2014 16:04 GMT
#389
Wait so it's the PCs fault and not the internet?
Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
October 09 2014 16:04 GMT
#390
On October 10 2014 01:03 Gevna wrote:
I just want navi to play a game without any fucking issues :-/


it feels bad to say but tbh since its always with navi might be something with them ...
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-09 16:05:13
October 09 2014 16:04 GMT
#391
Funny how the 2 posts above me worked out

nvm got bumped down ...
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
October 09 2014 16:05 GMT
#392
On October 10 2014 01:01 caiovigg wrote:
I have my fucking PC for 2 years and it never had problems, ESL can't make a brand new one works zzzzz


When you plug your shit into a new computer you've never tried before and with very minimal testing you just start a game it's quite likely there will be some complications.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
October 09 2014 16:05 GMT
#393
If it's really PC issues, they should have made it a BYOC in a basement and call it ESL old school.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17727 Posts
October 09 2014 16:06 GMT
#394
On October 10 2014 01:03 DavoS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 01:00 Elyvilon wrote:
ESL is proving to be an excellent followup to WCA

obv Navi is bribing someone to ruin their connection to games so their fanboys can blame their losses on something external


Like the separatist groups in their home country?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
October 09 2014 16:06 GMT
#395
On October 10 2014 01:04 Procake wrote:
Wait so it's the PCs fault and not the internet?


dont know, i do recall that sometimes a load doesnt work for a player, so they did the load again and then someone else just couldnt get in the game, so it looked like something that wasn't the server. mind you tho, that was a long time ago (winter 2012 sometime i think)
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
October 09 2014 16:06 GMT
#396
3 AM. Need to up at 7. Wanted to watch just one game before bed, then this shit. Oh god why.
Long live the King of Wings
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-09 16:07:49
October 09 2014 16:07 GMT
#397
As far as I can tell the problems are not due to DDoS. It looks like a bug with the server dropping everyone at once, a bunch of bad PCs and buggy save / reload code.

A DDoS against the game or venue would manifest as the entire game lagging and eventually everyone dropping. Instant drops are not a DDoS - the client and server have timeout values so even if you pulled the network cable out your client wouldn't disconnect for 30 seconds. As there is no lag before the drops this seems to indicate a programming bug in the network code where a timeout is triggering when it shouldn't be.

It's easy to blame everything on DDoS but it's kind of unlikely from what I've seen so far.
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Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
October 09 2014 16:07 GMT
#398
On October 10 2014 01:06 LimitSEA wrote:
3 AM. Need to up at 7. Wanted to watch just one game before bed, then this shit. Oh god why.


you shouldn't have tried, if you'd gotten up slightly earlier you could've watched some dota as well - probably the same series anyway
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
October 09 2014 16:07 GMT
#399
oh its so awesome to be right.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 09 2014 16:07 GMT
#400
On October 10 2014 01:05 nojok wrote:
If it's really PC issues, they should have made it a BYOC in a basement and call it ESL old school.

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