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Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
October 10 2014 02:59 GMT
#3361
if you go urn on spec, why build drums as well?

it seems so pointless. drums arent gonna do anything. just go phase urn and get that radiance ASAP.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
October 10 2014 03:00 GMT
#3362
Well, SNA's draft was amazing...assuming they entered the mid-lategame on even footing lol.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
October 10 2014 03:00 GMT
#3363
On October 10 2014 11:59 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 11:45 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On October 10 2014 11:45 ch33psh33p wrote:
Won't be close boys.

Yeah clown9 is gonna get stomped



You. HAHa.

Expect some "Remove X player" after this game if C9 wins.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
October 10 2014 03:00 GMT
#3364
On October 10 2014 12:00 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Well, SNA's draft was amazing...assuming they entered the mid-lategame on even footing lol.

and anybody who has a grasp of how these heroes work in the earlygame could see that wasn't gonna happen
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lphwo
Profile Joined September 2011
Malaysia751 Posts
October 10 2014 03:01 GMT
#3365
LC just got way too much in the offlane.
SNA didn't get any advantage from their safelane, in exchange of the farm they gave away to EE and Fata.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
October 10 2014 03:02 GMT
#3366
mega stomp
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
October 10 2014 03:02 GMT
#3367
On October 10 2014 11:58 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 11:57 cravin74 wrote:
On October 10 2014 11:49 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On October 10 2014 11:46 cravin74 wrote:
On October 10 2014 11:33 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On October 10 2014 11:30 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Yeah several of those are rtz, one is meracle, and the rest were in nel months before ee played it. Hes about as creative as how drunk someone in nel is.


I thought iceiceice was doing farming Naga before Meracle brought it back into the limelight.


I guess Meracle was the one to try it out against Tier 1 Chinese teams. I remember LD not believing that this Naga playstyle was viable when Winter talked about it during Titan's G1 games.


Well farming Naga was definitely a thing in the past; I remember several carry Naga games during TI2. But she got nerfed during the interval and it fell out of fashion.


Yeah I think LD was referring to Naga post nerfs.


Then I think Meracle was the first one to do it in T1 events. I don't remember iceiceice doing it outside of pubs.


You wouldn't have seen it unless you were following SEA. The only one I remember distinctively is when he stood in for Orange right after TI2 for some event and they draft him carry Naga. At the end of the game (they won pretty easily) IceIceIce went past enemy T4 and dropped his Radi and Heart outside the fountain, song'd, ran around, then picked them back up.
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
October 10 2014 03:02 GMT
#3368
On October 10 2014 12:01 lphwo wrote:
LC just got way too much in the offlane.
SNA didn't get any advantage from their safelane, in exchange of the farm they gave away to EE and Fata.

Yeah the supports accomplished pretty much nothing.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-10 03:03:15
October 10 2014 03:03 GMT
#3369
On October 10 2014 12:00 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 12:00 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Well, SNA's draft was amazing...assuming they entered the mid-lategame on even footing lol.

and anybody who has a grasp of how these heroes work in the earlygame could see that wasn't gonna happen


From the draft, C9 had the clear advantage in that department. I think few people expected them to win it this badly.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
October 10 2014 03:03 GMT
#3370
es/aa isn't really an easy support duo to get work done in the earlygame, they both rely on powerspikes later on and in the early game they NEED amazing es fissures with other earlygame nukers that can follow up...

lich/swm on the other hand...
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Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
October 10 2014 03:05 GMT
#3371
On October 10 2014 12:03 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
es/aa isn't really an easy support duo to get work done in the earlygame, they both rely on powerspikes later on and in the early game they NEED amazing es fissures with other earlygame nukers that can follow up...

lich/swm on the other hand...

and they had that opportunity for the kill against LC which would have changed the course of the game
and ES got a shit fissure
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
October 10 2014 03:05 GMT
#3372
whitebeard playing really well imo
:)
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
October 10 2014 03:05 GMT
#3373
On October 10 2014 11:59 Nymzee wrote:
if you go urn on spec, why build drums as well?

it seems so pointless. drums arent gonna do anything. just go phase urn and get that radiance ASAP.


they have to because spec needs to help in the fights and the drums would help a lot
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
October 10 2014 03:05 GMT
#3374
On October 10 2014 12:02 wuhan_clan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 11:58 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On October 10 2014 11:57 cravin74 wrote:
On October 10 2014 11:49 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On October 10 2014 11:46 cravin74 wrote:
On October 10 2014 11:33 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On October 10 2014 11:30 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Yeah several of those are rtz, one is meracle, and the rest were in nel months before ee played it. Hes about as creative as how drunk someone in nel is.


I thought iceiceice was doing farming Naga before Meracle brought it back into the limelight.


I guess Meracle was the one to try it out against Tier 1 Chinese teams. I remember LD not believing that this Naga playstyle was viable when Winter talked about it during Titan's G1 games.


Well farming Naga was definitely a thing in the past; I remember several carry Naga games during TI2. But she got nerfed during the interval and it fell out of fashion.


Yeah I think LD was referring to Naga post nerfs.


Then I think Meracle was the first one to do it in T1 events. I don't remember iceiceice doing it outside of pubs.


You wouldn't have seen it unless you were following SEA. The only one I remember distinctively is when he stood in for Orange right after TI2 for some event and they draft him carry Naga. At the end of the game (they won pretty easily) IceIceIce went past enemy T4 and dropped his Radi and Heart outside the fountain, song'd, ran around, then picked them back up.


I didn't start following SEA until after TI3, so I missed that.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
October 10 2014 03:06 GMT
#3375
On October 10 2014 11:59 Nymzee wrote:
if you go urn on spec, why build drums as well?

it seems so pointless. drums arent gonna do anything. just go phase urn and get that radiance ASAP.

Looks like a casual bracer so he doesn't get instagibbed.
Veles
Profile Joined May 2011
United States3280 Posts
October 10 2014 03:06 GMT
#3376
lol just read through the thread starting at the draft

lc is good guys bone7 just throws sometimes
lphwo
Profile Joined September 2011
Malaysia751 Posts
October 10 2014 03:08 GMT
#3377
That was a facepalm moment from Spectre.
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
October 10 2014 03:09 GMT
#3378
It was a sweet draft by sna, but the outskill is too strong. Ahh well, least this means TL won't pick them up.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
October 10 2014 03:09 GMT
#3379
Goes from bad to worse for SNA.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
October 10 2014 03:10 GMT
#3380
On October 10 2014 12:09 Jaaaaasper wrote:
It was a sweet draft by sna, but the outskill is too strong. Ahh well, least this means TL won't pick them up.


It's extremely unlikely SNA would be picked up by TL after what happened with Fluff
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