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Alliance vs Cloud 9 game 3 is being played on LAN. As such only the Chinese broadcasters at the event can stream the games. BTS and Starladder has chosen to stop streaming as they could not get the Chinese stream to work smoothly.

Chinese stream: http://www.liquiddota.com/stream/9704
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
October 04 2014 11:55 GMT
#1161
On October 04 2014 20:49 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 20:46 DucK- wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:44 goody153 wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:40 DucK- wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:37 goody153 wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:36 DucK- wrote:
Like Mjolnir even helps against Naga

it does

as long as you can focus the illusion properly


The lightning damage doesn't kill illusions fast enough. What Envy should have gotten is tank items or refresher so that they can man up and bruteforce towers.

attack speed and bonus damage yo .. lightning damage is an healthy addition to make your farmspeed faster

also the active is pretty good

sure tanking up works but that only helps you from dying to illusion not makes you stop illusions faster and prevent them from hitting your base faster or allies.


It's not his job to kill illusions. It's his job to allow C9 to push.

You know you can't just rely on ember on clearing naga illusions . Tanking won't do shit if you or your team die to illusions faster than illusions die.

And razor can't just live up to one role. He is already tanky enough tbh.


I think you just saw how irrelevant Mjolnir is in clearing illusions.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 04 2014 11:55 GMT
#1162
It was 322 by C9 to leave LC to defend against illusions. Ember does this job much better.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 04 2014 11:55 GMT
#1163
On October 04 2014 20:55 GiveMeYourtTots wrote:
I hope Alliance wins this game. Not because I'm a fan of them but because C9 underestimate lodas naga, you must be punished for it.

If you first ban naga and TB, you leave Alliance to get Bulldog's furion. You see how bad that is?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
October 04 2014 11:56 GMT
#1164
this one is on C9 for not doing shit before naga got super fat
this is a quote
eqez
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden837 Posts
October 04 2014 11:56 GMT
#1165
Just started watching. DId c9 lead with 40k gold? Thats insane

Loda are playing so fucking dirty and i love him.
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
October 04 2014 11:56 GMT
#1166
Go 7 slot skadi Loda
The Real Power~
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 04 2014 11:56 GMT
#1167
On October 04 2014 20:55 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 20:55 GiveMeYourtTots wrote:
I hope Alliance wins this game. Not because I'm a fan of them but because C9 underestimate lodas naga, you must be punished for it.

If you first ban naga and TB, you leave Alliance to get Bulldog's furion. You see how bad that is?

Rat if you do, rat if you don't.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 04 2014 11:56 GMT
#1168
On October 04 2014 20:56 goody153 wrote:
this one is on C9 for not doing shit before naga got super fat

You mean, for not ending the game in 20 minutes? Seriously, it is impossible to do in this patch unless you completely roflstomp all lanes.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
October 04 2014 11:56 GMT
#1169
On October 04 2014 20:55 lolnoty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 20:54 BurningSera wrote:
haha 'loda plays more solid than ee'


actually true


of course it is true, i prefer chinese caster so much more there, the honesty so good
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
October 04 2014 11:56 GMT
#1170
Of course as an Ember you should dive into the enemy team to fight.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
October 04 2014 11:56 GMT
#1171
On October 04 2014 20:55 DucK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 20:49 goody153 wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:46 DucK- wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:44 goody153 wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:40 DucK- wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:37 goody153 wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:36 DucK- wrote:
Like Mjolnir even helps against Naga

it does

as long as you can focus the illusion properly


The lightning damage doesn't kill illusions fast enough. What Envy should have gotten is tank items or refresher so that they can man up and bruteforce towers.

attack speed and bonus damage yo .. lightning damage is an healthy addition to make your farmspeed faster

also the active is pretty good

sure tanking up works but that only helps you from dying to illusion not makes you stop illusions faster and prevent them from hitting your base faster or allies.


It's not his job to kill illusions. It's his job to allow C9 to push.

You know you can't just rely on ember on clearing naga illusions . Tanking won't do shit if you or your team die to illusions faster than illusions die.

And razor can't just live up to one role. He is already tanky enough tbh.


I think you just saw how irrelevant Mjolnir is in clearing illusions.

not that it matters if you get tankier same result will occur .. you will die to illusions if you can't clear them..
this is a quote
Unattended Cake
Profile Joined December 2012
United States877 Posts
October 04 2014 11:57 GMT
#1172
On October 04 2014 20:56 eqez wrote:
Just started watching. DId c9 lead with 40k gold? Thats insane

Loda are playing so fucking dirty and i love him.


Think it was exp.
"It's Santa! Get him, Jesus!"
absinthfee
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany718 Posts
October 04 2014 11:57 GMT
#1173
On October 04 2014 20:56 eqez wrote:
Just started watching. DId c9 lead with 40k gold? Thats insane

Loda are playing so fucking dirty and i love him.

That was experience.
They "only" led by 12k gold.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
October 04 2014 11:58 GMT
#1174
Whoa, veno ult and song down for a long-ass time. Could be good to go for push for c9 now.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
October 04 2014 11:58 GMT
#1175
On October 04 2014 20:56 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 20:55 lolnoty wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:54 BurningSera wrote:
haha 'loda plays more solid than ee'


actually true


of course it is true, i prefer chinese caster so much more there, the honesty so good


haha chinese casters said that? that's awesome
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
October 04 2014 11:58 GMT
#1176
cheesie is just not on the level needed for Alliance to go up
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
October 04 2014 11:59 GMT
#1177
On October 04 2014 20:56 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 20:56 goody153 wrote:
this one is on C9 for not doing shit before naga got super fat

You mean, for not ending the game in 20 minutes? Seriously, it is impossible to do in this patch unless you completely roflstomp all lanes.

not 20 minutes dude .. but they did nothing after pushing the t1's .. it's like they were asking to lose

they just let the naga farm despite the advantage it was weird they didn't push the advantage and considering they are playing against naga and not like they don't know how naga works since they play them themselves

this is a quote
skipshentaiscenes
Profile Joined August 2014
Indonesia129 Posts
October 04 2014 11:59 GMT
#1178
30 kills in 1 hour? is this league of legends (Kappa)

seriously though naga is pretty annoying

User was warned for this post
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
October 04 2014 11:59 GMT
#1179
On October 04 2014 20:56 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 20:55 DucK- wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:49 goody153 wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:46 DucK- wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:44 goody153 wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:40 DucK- wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:37 goody153 wrote:
On October 04 2014 20:36 DucK- wrote:
Like Mjolnir even helps against Naga

it does

as long as you can focus the illusion properly


The lightning damage doesn't kill illusions fast enough. What Envy should have gotten is tank items or refresher so that they can man up and bruteforce towers.

attack speed and bonus damage yo .. lightning damage is an healthy addition to make your farmspeed faster

also the active is pretty good

sure tanking up works but that only helps you from dying to illusion not makes you stop illusions faster and prevent them from hitting your base faster or allies.


It's not his job to kill illusions. It's his job to allow C9 to push.

You know you can't just rely on ember on clearing naga illusions . Tanking won't do shit if you or your team die to illusions faster than illusions die.

And razor can't just live up to one role. He is already tanky enough tbh.


I think you just saw how irrelevant Mjolnir is in clearing illusions.

not that it matters if you get tankier same result will occur .. you will die to illusions if you can't clear them..


Yes. Either way you can't clear illusions. But if you tank up and go RFO instead, you can bruteforce towers. Look at how EE had to go home.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
October 04 2014 11:59 GMT
#1180
On October 04 2014 20:56 eqez wrote:
Just started watching. DId c9 lead with 40k gold? Thats insane

Loda are playing so fucking dirty and i love him.

For the future, this website shows you the graphs live! As well as match history and kill history and a bunch of other updated information. It's like two minutes behind this game though.
http://www.trackdota.com/matches/939111085
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
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