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Nakama
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany584 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 21:42:31
December 18 2014 21:41 GMT
#1441
i never thought i would say this one day but i think eg have too much disable ( and too less autoattack dmg)
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
December 18 2014 21:42 GMT
#1442
On December 19 2014 06:39 Procake wrote:
EG 4.5% throw

Were those the odds? lol
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
December 18 2014 21:42 GMT
#1443
dark pact good skill
Derity
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2952 Posts
December 18 2014 21:42 GMT
#1444
it has been quite a while that I have seen a successful slark game.
thought eg had it
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
December 18 2014 21:42 GMT
#1445
Illidan is cool.
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
December 18 2014 21:43 GMT
#1446
feel like jugg needed blink and sd needed force staff and arteezy needed to use hex right after dark pacts which he didnt
posting on liquid sites in current year
Procake
Profile Joined December 2013
3803 Posts
December 18 2014 21:43 GMT
#1447
On December 19 2014 06:42 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 06:39 Procake wrote:
EG 4.5% throw

Were those the odds? lol


yeah, the stat said teams with EG's lead at 25 minutes only lose 4.5% of the time haha
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 21:45:10
December 18 2014 21:44 GMT
#1448
On December 19 2014 06:42 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 06:39 Procake wrote:
EG 4.5% throw

Were those the odds? lol

it was compared to 10k up by 25 minutes in 6.81 i think
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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
December 18 2014 21:45 GMT
#1449
On December 19 2014 06:41 Nakama wrote:
i never thought i would say this one day but i think eg have too much disable ( and too lees autoattack dmg)

Blame Jugger pick! Now seriously, Jugger just isn't good carry hero, he is semi-carry at best and fills specific role, but later the game goes, he gets a lot worse and can't fight other heroes even with better farm and gets absolutely trashed in team fights.

Even though he is buffed, I think that teams really shouldn't pick him outside of those timing pushes.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 21:46:47
December 18 2014 21:45 GMT
#1450
On December 19 2014 06:42 Derity wrote:
it has been quite a while that I have seen a successful slark game.
thought eg had it

CIS and SA love that motherfucker.
On December 19 2014 06:45 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 06:41 Nakama wrote:
i never thought i would say this one day but i think eg have too much disable ( and too lees autoattack dmg)

Blame Jugger pick! Now seriously, Jugger just isn't good carry hero, he is semi-carry at best and fills specific role, but later the game goes, he gets a lot worse and can't fight other heroes even with better farm and gets absolutely trashed in team fights.

Even though he is buffed, I think that teams really shouldn't pick him outside of those timing pushes.

In my admittedly limited Jugg experience I think he has a binomial power curve. He is strong early-mid, then gets weak around mid-late, then gets nasty again late. Not the best super-late carry obviously.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
December 18 2014 21:46 GMT
#1451
On December 19 2014 06:45 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 06:42 Derity wrote:
it has been quite a while that I have seen a successful slark game.
thought eg had it

CIS and SA love that motherfucker.

He's a hero that's heavily rewarded for going ham and has tools that let him safely dive towers, of course CIS players are gonna like him.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
December 18 2014 21:49 GMT
#1452
On December 19 2014 06:45 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 06:42 Derity wrote:
it has been quite a while that I have seen a successful slark game.
thought eg had it

CIS and SA love that motherfucker.
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 06:45 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On December 19 2014 06:41 Nakama wrote:
i never thought i would say this one day but i think eg have too much disable ( and too lees autoattack dmg)

Blame Jugger pick! Now seriously, Jugger just isn't good carry hero, he is semi-carry at best and fills specific role, but later the game goes, he gets a lot worse and can't fight other heroes even with better farm and gets absolutely trashed in team fights.

Even though he is buffed, I think that teams really shouldn't pick him outside of those timing pushes.

In my admittedly limited Jugg experience I think he has a binomial power curve. He is strong early-mid, then gets weak around mid-late, then gets nasty again late. Not the best super-late carry obviously.


slark is pretty similar though. Assuming you are not snowballing, you need to survive the lull in power until skadi/basher. slark does farm faster and has better survivability than jugg.
MyrMindservant
Profile Joined October 2013
695 Posts
December 18 2014 21:50 GMT
#1453
Caster at ru stream has said that last game is at US server.
BoxeR, FanTaSy, Jaedong, Life | White-Ra | Moon || Na'Vi, Wings || ༼ᕤ $◡$ ༽ᕤ MIDAS HIM
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 21:53:38
December 18 2014 21:51 GMT
#1454
On December 19 2014 06:45 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 06:42 Derity wrote:
it has been quite a while that I have seen a successful slark game.
thought eg had it

CIS and SA love that motherfucker.
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 06:45 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On December 19 2014 06:41 Nakama wrote:
i never thought i would say this one day but i think eg have too much disable ( and too lees autoattack dmg)

Blame Jugger pick! Now seriously, Jugger just isn't good carry hero, he is semi-carry at best and fills specific role, but later the game goes, he gets a lot worse and can't fight other heroes even with better farm and gets absolutely trashed in team fights.

Even though he is buffed, I think that teams really shouldn't pick him outside of those timing pushes.

In my admittedly limited Jugg experience I think he has a binomial power curve. He is strong early-mid, then gets weak around mid-late, then gets nasty again late. Not the best super-late carry obviously.

It might be, because I actually never saw late late Jugger(he crushes early/mid game as you said, or gets absolutely destroyed a bit later), but even in the late game he is just a hero that doesn't have slow/stun or any other form of control, he isn't really mobile(sure, most of the time you are building mobility but then you are wasting a lot of gold and item slots on those items) and he isn't ranged. Only thing he goes to his way is crit and even that isn't good as other crit skills.

In any team fight past 25-30 minutes, he is just kited and controlled to death.

On December 19 2014 06:49 trifecta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 06:45 FHDH wrote:
On December 19 2014 06:42 Derity wrote:
it has been quite a while that I have seen a successful slark game.
thought eg had it

CIS and SA love that motherfucker.
On December 19 2014 06:45 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On December 19 2014 06:41 Nakama wrote:
i never thought i would say this one day but i think eg have too much disable ( and too lees autoattack dmg)

Blame Jugger pick! Now seriously, Jugger just isn't good carry hero, he is semi-carry at best and fills specific role, but later the game goes, he gets a lot worse and can't fight other heroes even with better farm and gets absolutely trashed in team fights.

Even though he is buffed, I think that teams really shouldn't pick him outside of those timing pushes.

In my admittedly limited Jugg experience I think he has a binomial power curve. He is strong early-mid, then gets weak around mid-late, then gets nasty again late. Not the best super-late carry obviously.


slark is pretty similar though. Assuming you are not snowballing, you need to survive the lull in power until skadi/basher. slark does farm faster and has better survivability than jugg.

Uh, they aren't really comparable. Slark has 4 amazing skills that are ALWAYS useful and very very good(some of them are just OP I would say) while Jugger's skills are kind of situational pass early/mid game.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
December 18 2014 21:58 GMT
#1455
I don't think I've ever seen EG play LC. Surprised they picked her after Fear's "Shit hero, doesn't do anything" rant at The Summit.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
December 18 2014 21:59 GMT
#1456
Holy fuck that damage on Fear. ;O
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
December 18 2014 22:02 GMT
#1457
AHAHAHAHAHA poor Universe. ;D
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
December 18 2014 22:02 GMT
#1458
The bait is real
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
December 18 2014 22:02 GMT
#1459
On December 19 2014 06:58 Daralii wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen EG play LC. Surprised they picked her after Fear's "Shit hero, doesn't do anything" rant at The Summit.

Honestly the only EG player whose opinions about the meta I respect is PPD, and he was, I think, the one who said support Mirana was trash.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Kyyuna
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1222 Posts
December 18 2014 22:02 GMT
#1460
game is hard
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