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On July 15 2014 03:12 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2014 03:10 waever wrote:
i am not convinced that skadi is better than more standard satanic+butterfly combo On whom? On morph skadi is pretty darn good to have ya know. And on luna, skadi is better either if you can't use satanic, or you alraedy have one (and perhaps bkb on top).
Yea in that game also if you stop luna from glaiving everyone to death that's like half the teamfight, so skadi also did help a lot. If your first priority is to manfight multi-core though satanic is probably better.
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On July 15 2014 03:15 waever wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2014 03:12 lolfail9001 wrote:
On whom? On morph skadi is pretty darn good to have ya know. And on luna, skadi is better either if you can't use satanic, or you alraedy have one (and perhaps bkb on top). luna obv, not enough effective hp/healing, not enough damage/attack speed.
Not enough EHP? Are we talking about same item? Also, skadi is still an eaglehorn worth of agility. I blame refresher on invoker.
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Titan vs DK grand finals. Y-God vs. M-God. Who is too fuckin pro?
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On July 15 2014 03:15 kaztah wrote:
That double damage rune that gave them rosh so fast that ravage wasnt even up was a big help though
Yea Titan had lady luck on their side this game. Fast roshan respawn + DD rune, NB didn't have a chance to reach the pit in time.
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On July 15 2014 03:15 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2014 03:13 edgemega wrote:
isnt this why xiao8 hasnt won anything? some of his calls are atrocious my lord. why would you fit in rosh pit after aegis claimed when you had 0 ravages and they have everything, as well as hao going skadi over satanic? why would you not have satanic when youre a late game luna against a bat When you are late game luna against bat-morph-SS-Viper satanic is just as useless. Linkens would actually be good tho, tho it was invoker's job to get it and keep up on luna /s
its more useful than a skadi. the point of satanic is to have another life, you want ravage to disrupt those disables and give you a few seconds to nullify the lasso
skadi bulks you up yes, but so does satanic. either go full survival with satanic/linkens (linkens gets broken by viper strike though)
altough to be fair i dont think any item really lets them win because titans initiation makes it impossible to go damage
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On July 15 2014 03:14 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2014 03:13 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Skadi instead of MKB/Satanik is pretty stupid lol.
Hell even a Linken would've been better. Let's be honest, Hao's items today were strange. This linkens first item on morph in game 1 against bb, brew with haze and not a single targetted stun apart from boulder was hilarious at least.
its just the usual chinese morph build. its not really suprising that he went for it (yes its a bad decision vs their lineup)
what a shitty game
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Refresher was ownage though, the only way they killed people when Luna kept getting lasso'd was the double meatball/blast
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 15 2014 03:15 ch33psh33p wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2014 03:13 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On July 15 2014 03:11 ch33psh33p wrote:
Xiao8 and Hao should really quit dota or something.
That was beyond embarassing. You should really quit posting or something. Oh ok. Great counterargument. How about blinking in without any mana management, leading to no second ravage? Wasting buyback 3 times on Luna? Buying a skadi of all thing instead of Satanic? If he had Satanic they win the last fight in Titan's base.
I've watched a shitload of different competitive games.
And I can count on one hand the number of players that just don't EVER crack under pressure.
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Instead of exaggerating the throws, we can also credit Titan for some epic teamfighting and base defense.
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On July 15 2014 03:17 Slardar wrote:
Instead of exaggerating the throws, we can also credit Titan for some epic teamfighting and base defense.
who gives credit for anything
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On July 15 2014 03:15 ch33psh33p wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2014 03:13 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On July 15 2014 03:11 ch33psh33p wrote:
Xiao8 and Hao should really quit dota or something.
That was beyond embarassing. You should really quit posting or something. Oh ok. Great counterargument. How about blinking in without any mana management, leading to no second ravage? Wasting buyback 3 times on Luna? Buying a skadi of all thing instead of Satanic? If he had Satanic they win the last fight in Titan's base.
I have seen way worse chokes from Cloud9, you know.
Judging by your logic, everyone but SingSing should be fired. go figure.
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
Ohaiyo mvp? 2GD must be blind.
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On July 15 2014 03:16 edgemega wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2014 03:13 AwfuL_ wrote:
Why's Hao so highly regarded again? He's good at hitting creeps I have to give him that but for the rest.. hao is a very average chinese carry. He is highly regarded because he makes highly aggressive flashy plays, but i think hes like the chinese sneyking (much better though) because he doesnt know how to bkb, always gets caught out. In general i think he is an interchangeable since TI3 it was mu and kingj carrying that team, while this year its mu and banana moreso. But to be honest, most of the chinese carries are very non-impressive, except rabbit. I think rabbits the only reason LGD has kept afloat
burning...non-impressive ?
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Did anyone notice the Shaker's stats at the end of the game?
3/7/31
They had 41 kills total. He was involved in 34/41. Pretty good stats for an ES with blink post 30 minutes, was it?
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What a fucking game
TITAN and their scrappy malaysian dota
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Main problem was that once ohaiyo had bkb, they had NOTHING to stop him when he's lasso'ing
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On July 15 2014 03:17 edgemega wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2014 03:15 lolfail9001 wrote:On July 15 2014 03:13 edgemega wrote:
isnt this why xiao8 hasnt won anything? some of his calls are atrocious my lord. why would you fit in rosh pit after aegis claimed when you had 0 ravages and they have everything, as well as hao going skadi over satanic? why would you not have satanic when youre a late game luna against a bat When you are late game luna against bat-morph-SS-Viper satanic is just as useless. Linkens would actually be good tho, tho it was invoker's job to get it and keep up on luna /s its more useful than a skadi. the point of satanic is to have another life, you want ravage to disrupt those disables and give you a few seconds to nullify the lasso
I counted 4 bkbs on Titan. Relying on fucking ravage to disrupt all the stuff i mentioned is naive if it is Hao who gets caught out, and not Newbee that does the jumping.
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On July 15 2014 03:18 Artisreal wrote:
Did anyone notice the Shaker's stats at the end of the game?
3/7/31
They had 41 kills total. He was involved in 34/41. Pretty good stats for an ES with blink post 30 minutes, was it?
His echos totally saved Titan's midgame.
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Newbee fucked up, but Titan fucked up way before that like 3 times to put Newbee in the winning position. In the end Titan won off of the draft just being way better late game. In Hao interview he blamed the draft on most of their losses as well.
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