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Seanzk
Profile Joined September 2012
China609 Posts
May 23 2014 15:42 GMT
#21
On May 23 2014 23:30 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 08:58 opterown wrote:
On May 23 2014 01:43 Sn0_Man wrote:
The brackets actually match seed 1 Group A against seed 1 Group B (assuming they win) in the 2nd round which is kinda silly.

Assuming DK win their group everybody else actually would rather come 2/3 than 1/4...

gogo C9 :D

but group B are seeds 5-8 already if you haven't noticed, they're meant to be lower than group A

Point being in group B you would rather come 2nd than 1st if your primary fear is the #1 seed after groups (likely team DK).

But Group B will match at first. You don't have to choose your opponent's chance.
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weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2071 Posts
May 23 2014 15:59 GMT
#22
Titan/c9!!!!
Oppa feeding style
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-24 10:24:18
May 24 2014 10:23 GMT
#23
I thought NewBee aren't allowed to field SanSheng like VG couldn't used Sylar last season and Coach Li would be a substitute for him. Can anyone confirm this?
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 24 2014 10:27 GMT
#24
On May 24 2014 19:23 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
I thought NewBee aren't allowed to field SanSheng like VG couldn't used Sylar last season and Coach Li would be a substitute for him. Can anyone confirm this?

i think so too, but i can't confirm that hrm
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hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
May 24 2014 10:32 GMT
#25
I don't see the point in the group stage? Wonder if alliance bootcamp is gonna pay off this time.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 24 2014 10:33 GMT
#26
On May 24 2014 19:32 hifriend wrote:
I don't see the point in the group stage? Wonder if alliance bootcamp is gonna pay off this time.

just seeding for RO8 playoffs
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hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
May 24 2014 10:38 GMT
#27
On May 24 2014 19:33 opterown wrote:
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On May 24 2014 19:32 hifriend wrote:
I don't see the point in the group stage? Wonder if alliance bootcamp is gonna pay off this time.

just seeding for RO8 playoffs

Yeah but if you're in group B, why would you want to end up first place and most likely face DK in semis?

Love the bo7 finals tho.
Seanzk
Profile Joined September 2012
China609 Posts
May 24 2014 10:40 GMT
#28
Sylar was a player of RisingStar then, so he can't play for VG. But Sansheng had no team before, so he is allowed.
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ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
May 24 2014 10:44 GMT
#29
On May 24 2014 19:38 hifriend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 19:33 opterown wrote:
On May 24 2014 19:32 hifriend wrote:
I don't see the point in the group stage? Wonder if alliance bootcamp is gonna pay off this time.

just seeding for RO8 playoffs

Yeah but if you're in group B, why would you want to end up first place and most likely face DK in semis?

Love the bo7 finals tho.

Isn't it the usual 1st place of group A against 4th place of group B pairings though ?
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-24 11:00:33
May 24 2014 11:00 GMT
#30
On May 24 2014 19:38 hifriend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 19:33 opterown wrote:
On May 24 2014 19:32 hifriend wrote:
I don't see the point in the group stage? Wonder if alliance bootcamp is gonna pay off this time.

just seeding for RO8 playoffs

Yeah but if you're in group B, why would you want to end up first place and most likely face DK in semis?

Love the bo7 finals tho.

well the idea is that even if you top group B, you're still likely to lose to 4th in group A, who did better/was the higher seed than you

On May 24 2014 19:40 Seanzk wrote:
Sylar was a player of RisingStar then, so he can't play for VG. But Sansheng had no team before, so he is allowed.

but sansheng stood in for iG once, and he didn't place for newbee after he joined again?
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Seanzk
Profile Joined September 2012
China609 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-24 11:11:13
May 24 2014 11:10 GMT
#31

but sansheng stood in for iG once, and he didn't place for newbee after he joined again?

I think he's just a stand-in, not a official player.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
May 24 2014 18:19 GMT
#32
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Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
May 24 2014 19:38 GMT
#33
Chinese DotA marathon will continue, after the MDE madness finishes.

Oh god, my exams are also coming closer each day. Fuaark.
EHOME 2010 never forget EHOME.GIGABYTE.AAA B-God In BurNing we trust BurNing your soul DK 2011-2014
Omigawa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1556 Posts
May 25 2014 01:22 GMT
#34
Hey juff, will you be able to post drafts for the first day? If not I can do it myself, it's not a big deal I was just curious
Pandahunterz
Profile Joined March 2013
Netherlands213 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-25 20:00:17
May 25 2014 19:56 GMT
#35
voting for DK, but as TI is coming up and DK have shown to keep their strategies secret for now (and play very bad, even worse than throwing) + they are in group of death makes chances of even getting out of the groupstage very small T_T even though none get knocked out in group stage.... >.<
Pandahunterz
Profile Joined March 2013
Netherlands213 Posts
May 25 2014 20:06 GMT
#36
On May 22 2014 22:32 TheRubicon wrote:
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On May 22 2014 22:14 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Alliance maybe, but C9 over DK/newbee/VG? lol

c9 beat dk on lan, newbee is newbee, and VG is beat in all 1v1 matchups IMO.


based on recent results and playstyle (before the big oh-noes-TI-is-coming-up, better hide all our good plays and just show some crappy throws) VG and newbee actually were the most consistent good performing teams, DK always has had some random throws and cloud 9... well i think that's pretty clear. when singsing and aui have a good day, they are unstoppable otherwise they might even lose against the tier 3 AM/EU teams (as they have shown before)
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
May 25 2014 21:38 GMT
#37
I really think people are overestimating the potential for "pre TI throws". If you go and play in a tournament, you are going to try to win. There is still 1,5 months until TI and several tournaments in between, so I feel it's totally pointless to hide strategies. Whether there is a chance to use a particular strategy is another story, but I don't think anyone goes in with the intention of holding back a particular strategy.

About c9: I won't be surprised at all if they do well here. Last time when they were in China they weren't happy with the trip as a whole, but stating that they did really badly isn't exactly true either. They beat VG and Titan in groups and every match they lost against DK, LGD or Tongfu was 1-2. I remember watching some of those games and they did some really silly unforced mistakes in several of their games, and I didn't get the impression at all that the Chinese teams are out of their reach. They also recently put EE back in the drafter position, so it will be interesting to see how they do in that regard.
TheRubicon
Profile Joined February 2013
United States1342 Posts
May 26 2014 00:16 GMT
#38
On May 26 2014 06:38 spudde123 wrote:
I really think people are overestimating the potential for "pre TI throws". If you go and play in a tournament, you are going to try to win. There is still 1,5 months until TI and several tournaments in between, so I feel it's totally pointless to hide strategies. Whether there is a chance to use a particular strategy is another story, but I don't think anyone goes in with the intention of holding back a particular strategy.

About c9: I won't be surprised at all if they do well here. Last time when they were in China they weren't happy with the trip as a whole, but stating that they did really badly isn't exactly true either. They beat VG and Titan in groups and every match they lost against DK, LGD or Tongfu was 1-2. I remember watching some of those games and they did some really silly unforced mistakes in several of their games, and I didn't get the impression at all that the Chinese teams are out of their reach. They also recently put EE back in the drafter position, so it will be interesting to see how they do in that regard.

i agree with the overestimating the pre ti throws. i hope c9 doesnt do good in the group stages only to get knocked out in the first round of playoffs. it will be interesting
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
May 26 2014 02:43 GMT
#39
GET HYPE !!!
are you hype?
I'm HYPE !!!
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-26 02:47:22
May 26 2014 02:45 GMT
#40
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