[LR] The International II - 2012 - Page 957
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Testuser
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zul
Germany5427 Posts
On September 03 2012 07:51 Sphaero wrote: Aside of their obvious talent, they have something a lot of different teams (especially western) lack. A huge amount of experience together. They just know each other so damn well that they are able to fuse so good. Oh and the team with the least practice is obviously Mouz, who didn´t even knew they would play until one day before the prems. I heard mouz bootcamped with NaVi before the tournament | ||
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
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torm3ntin
Brazil2534 Posts
On September 03 2012 07:52 TheTenthDoc wrote: At the same time, a team losing a double elimination tournament by losing one match seems tremendously stupid. But it's unavoidable due to the length of DotA 2 games, so they had to compromise somehow. they should make it bo5 giving a 1 win advantage to the team from the winner bracket. | ||
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Runatir
Slovakia24 Posts
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OrderlyChaos
United States1115 Posts
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se7en247
United States487 Posts
On September 03 2012 07:53 SkelA wrote: Man no 1-0 lead for winner bracket winner ? That is the only bad thing in this tournament .. I'm happy about seeing a full bo5. | ||
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resoLVer1.0
Russian Federation125 Posts
On September 03 2012 07:46 Itsmedudeman wrote: LMAO you mean going into a 50/50 chance to be eliminated isn't good? I don't think you understand how numbers work. Why do you give a team which lost earlier a second chance, and not to the one from winners bracket? The most "fair" system here is two BO3 series - so the losers bracket winner knocks out the winners bracket team, and then they fight with no advantage on both sides. And it's even more of advantage for the winners bracket then starting with 1-0 in BO5. | ||
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Froob
United Kingdom342 Posts
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ArmyOfPlatypi
United States188 Posts
On September 03 2012 07:50 Shikyo wrote: I'd like a weakest link who in the most pressured game in his life goes 11-2 with his team averaging below 1:1 kd over 8:1 cs to minute ratio on a hero who's never picked. Is this a game in this thread? State a truly provocative point that is just asking to be responded to and spend the next hour defending it with the same two points? | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13069 Posts
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On September 03 2012 07:49 Itsmedudeman wrote: That's such stupid reasoning jesus christ. You have losses but you have MORE WINS against TOP teams as well. It is a huge advantage that you get to rest while another team has a chance to get knocked out by iG, a team that went 13-1 in group stages including against na`vi. It's unbelievably better to play through the upper bracket all the way through and no one will ever throw. If you wanna whine, I can say that na`vi went 8-6 and overall they lost more than LGD. The advantages go in phases and this is certainly an advantage. Then they shouldn't use double elimination. | ||
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bardtown
England2313 Posts
On September 03 2012 07:48 HolydaKing wrote: Yeah well, maybe. But i don't think those progamers will get exhausted by just playing some more games. Maybe they'll reveal some tactics or special stuff but i doubt that as well. And they do have decent breaks. Maybe not long breaks and maybe they're still in the spotlight but it's not like physically exhausting. More mentally, and yeah i'll give you that they do have mental advantage (Na'vi) now. I, for one, am exhausted just from watching those games xD. Was like nothing I've seen before in eSports. | ||
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Resent
Australia938 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On September 03 2012 07:52 Mordiford wrote: Once again, ask Navi if they want another match against iG, if they win they get two chances in the finals, if they lose they only get one. They would almost certainly choose to take an opportunity for more chances in the finals, which everyone else already go. These are progamers, they aren't running multiple marathons, these guys can crank out these many games in a day without too much difficulty. You can make all the arguments you want at this point but it's actually basic mathematics and logic and the reason why double elimination is double elimination. Everyone gets 2 chances before being knocked out of the tournament. If everyone but one team gets two chances, that is unfair to that one team. I'm only gonna say this once because this is getting stupid. You're only arguing which advantage is better. NO SHIT HAVING 1-0 lead is better ON TOP of not having to play iG. But to say that winning over LGD now in the upper bracket is not an advantage is STUPID. If na`vi got a 1-0 lead THEN IT WOULDN'T BE FAIR. You don't understand that they would also have played less opponents than LGD who also would only have one loss if they ended up winning the whole thing. | ||
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zoe`
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torm3ntin
Brazil2534 Posts
On September 03 2012 07:53 Runatir wrote: 500k viewers and that wasnt even a final ARE U KIDDING ME? just to let u know in china it is around 6am so expect even higher numbers for the final, oh and get shit on LoL where are u seeing this numbers? I can only see 80k from the streams here. | ||
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
Rod Breslau @Slasher That's $250,000 per player, not counting other events. Only MVP in 2011 had more, barely, with $253,000. Next one down is MC with $139,000. I like his attempt at math :D | ||
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dormer
United States1314 Posts
On September 03 2012 07:46 CountChocula wrote: Ironically Na`Vi picks the harder carry in Games 1 and 3, farms harder on Void while Naga tries to push with the team for most of the game. Bias much? Original statement: it's boring if Na'Vi wins twice Rebuttal: it would be more boring without Na'Vi, because then there'd only be Chinese teams (which can turn in to hour+ passive games, though not always) Your statement: Na'Vi farms too While true, your statement isn't really relevant. The point is that Na'Vi is the only non-Chinese team doing well and the games have been exciting, which makes up for the "dullness" of possibly having a repeat champion. | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On September 03 2012 07:52 Manit0u wrote: So, according to Bruno LGD is going to lose G1 (Morph pick). btw. what's 'pipe' and 'drums'? Been out of DotA for quite some years. Pipe = Khaldor's Pipe of Insight. Shield block damage. Drums = Jjango. Upgrade from Bracer. Give speed boost vroom vroom | ||
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