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Whatever Tobi's views may be regarding the arrangements for TI2, expressing them on Twitter and while TI2 is still on-going never the less only serves to distract from the actual games themselves. If there needs to be drama or whatever, it's better to wait until after everything is over or to put it behind closed doors. I couldn't imagine TL staff fighting or being super passive-aggressive publicly in the middle of something far more important.
That being said, has the caster schedule been published publicly? Or do we just find out about it when the casters finally turn up?
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konadora
Singapore66364 Posts
On September 02 2012 21:14 rotegirte wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 21:08 konadora wrote:On September 02 2012 21:05 rotegirte wrote:On September 02 2012 21:00 konadora wrote:On September 02 2012 20:57 cecek wrote:On September 02 2012 20:52 Fleuria wrote:
Tobi has the final, thats for certain
Luminous and LD probs have the lower bracket games. Not for certain. Eventho all he does nowadays is bitching about getting bad games, be it on twitter or just slipping the remark in an interview, and is being fucking annoying with it, I still think him and Synd should be casting the grandfinals. yeah that whining and bitching is really getting on my nerves and makes me wonder if he's cut out to be a professional not sticking to appointed games for casting, doing whatever the fuck he wants, bitching OH SO SUBTLY on twitter when he doesnt get what he wants... immature. have you considered that you might be under oh so subtle confirmation bias? not really how about the fact you can interpret "oh so subtle" whining into any arbitrary text- how it boils down on pure speculation on your part.
nope
just look at how he's been acting the last few days
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The other casters are good, but when I listen to them I don't get the feeling this tournament is anything out of the ordinary. This would be felt sorely in the Grand Finals. Regardless of his recent behaviour, I really think Tobi is the only one who can deliver the emotions needed for the climax of this event. It's up to Valve in the end though...
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On September 02 2012 21:16 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Whatever Tobi's views may be regarding the arrangements for TI2, expressing them on Twitter and while TI2 is still on-going never the less only serves to distract from the actual games themselves. If there needs to be drama or whatever, it's better to wait until after everything is over or to put it behind closed doors. I couldn't imagine TL staff fighting or being super passive-aggressive publicly in the middle of something far more important.
You'll be able to read anything you want into something, as long as you were assuming it from the beginning. Let's take a look at what he actually wrote:
Back from TI2..not sure exactly what matches I will cast tomorrow, Valve original plan for me not to do the grand final, this may change
From my understanding of the English language he wrote:
1) He is back from TI2
2) He is not sure what matches he will cast
3) He can at least say that Valve has not scheduled him for the finals
4) Plans, by nature, might be open to change
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konadora
Singapore66364 Posts
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On September 02 2012 21:17 konadora wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 21:14 rotegirte wrote:On September 02 2012 21:08 konadora wrote:On September 02 2012 21:05 rotegirte wrote:On September 02 2012 21:00 konadora wrote:On September 02 2012 20:57 cecek wrote:On September 02 2012 20:52 Fleuria wrote:
Tobi has the final, thats for certain
Luminous and LD probs have the lower bracket games. Not for certain. https://twitter.com/TobiWanDOTA/status/242155917372706817 Eventho all he does nowadays is bitching about getting bad games, be it on twitter or just slipping the remark in an interview, and is being fucking annoying with it, I still think him and Synd should be casting the grandfinals. yeah that whining and bitching is really getting on my nerves and makes me wonder if he's cut out to be a professional not sticking to appointed games for casting, doing whatever the fuck he wants, bitching OH SO SUBTLY on twitter when he doesnt get what he wants... immature. have you considered that you might be under oh so subtle confirmation bias? not really how about the fact you can interpret "oh so subtle" whining into any arbitrary text- how it boils down on pure speculation on your part. nope just look at how he's been acting the last few days
I understand Tobi actually. Lets just disregard that I think he's the best play by play caster out there. But for Tobi casting games is like players playing games. Of course you want to cast the best games, same as a player wants to be in the finals. Of course you're dissapointed when you dont get to cast the finals, as a player whose team was just eliminated.
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On September 02 2012 21:17 konadora wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 21:14 rotegirte wrote:On September 02 2012 21:08 konadora wrote:On September 02 2012 21:05 rotegirte wrote:On September 02 2012 21:00 konadora wrote:On September 02 2012 20:57 cecek wrote:On September 02 2012 20:52 Fleuria wrote:
Tobi has the final, thats for certain
Luminous and LD probs have the lower bracket games. Not for certain. https://twitter.com/TobiWanDOTA/status/242155917372706817 Eventho all he does nowadays is bitching about getting bad games, be it on twitter or just slipping the remark in an interview, and is being fucking annoying with it, I still think him and Synd should be casting the grandfinals. yeah that whining and bitching is really getting on my nerves and makes me wonder if he's cut out to be a professional not sticking to appointed games for casting, doing whatever the fuck he wants, bitching OH SO SUBTLY on twitter when he doesnt get what he wants... immature. have you considered that you might be under oh so subtle confirmation bias? not really how about the fact you can interpret "oh so subtle" whining into any arbitrary text- how it boils down on pure speculation on your part. nope just look at how he's been acting the last few days
exactly. I read his tweets as well. you choose to read your interpretation into them, I choose not to follow your line of thought. taken by face-value of the actual words, there was no whining
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Lumi/LD and Ayesee/Draskyl have all been showing how great they are.
I'm just happy they are getting more exposure and people get more options instead of just tobi.
So no matter who casts the finals, it will be good.
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On September 02 2012 21:23 Julmust wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 21:17 konadora wrote:On September 02 2012 21:14 rotegirte wrote:On September 02 2012 21:08 konadora wrote:On September 02 2012 21:05 rotegirte wrote:On September 02 2012 21:00 konadora wrote:On September 02 2012 20:57 cecek wrote:On September 02 2012 20:52 Fleuria wrote:
Tobi has the final, thats for certain
Luminous and LD probs have the lower bracket games. Not for certain. https://twitter.com/TobiWanDOTA/status/242155917372706817 Eventho all he does nowadays is bitching about getting bad games, be it on twitter or just slipping the remark in an interview, and is being fucking annoying with it, I still think him and Synd should be casting the grandfinals. yeah that whining and bitching is really getting on my nerves and makes me wonder if he's cut out to be a professional not sticking to appointed games for casting, doing whatever the fuck he wants, bitching OH SO SUBTLY on twitter when he doesnt get what he wants... immature. have you considered that you might be under oh so subtle confirmation bias? not really how about the fact you can interpret "oh so subtle" whining into any arbitrary text- how it boils down on pure speculation on your part. nope just look at how he's been acting the last few days I understand Tobi actually. Lets just disregard that I think he's the best play by play caster out there. But for Tobi casting games is like players playing games. Of course you want to cast the best games, same as a player wants to be in the finals. Of course you're dissapointed when you dont get to cast the finals, as a player whose team was just eliminated.
Umm.. what? That doesn't make ANY sense. I don't even want to start explaining why this analogy is ridiculous.
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Lalalaland34504 Posts
On September 02 2012 21:23 Julmust wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 21:17 konadora wrote:On September 02 2012 21:14 rotegirte wrote:On September 02 2012 21:08 konadora wrote:On September 02 2012 21:05 rotegirte wrote:On September 02 2012 21:00 konadora wrote:On September 02 2012 20:57 cecek wrote:On September 02 2012 20:52 Fleuria wrote:
Tobi has the final, thats for certain
Luminous and LD probs have the lower bracket games. Not for certain. https://twitter.com/TobiWanDOTA/status/242155917372706817 Eventho all he does nowadays is bitching about getting bad games, be it on twitter or just slipping the remark in an interview, and is being fucking annoying with it, I still think him and Synd should be casting the grandfinals. yeah that whining and bitching is really getting on my nerves and makes me wonder if he's cut out to be a professional not sticking to appointed games for casting, doing whatever the fuck he wants, bitching OH SO SUBTLY on twitter when he doesnt get what he wants... immature. have you considered that you might be under oh so subtle confirmation bias? not really how about the fact you can interpret "oh so subtle" whining into any arbitrary text- how it boils down on pure speculation on your part. nope just look at how he's been acting the last few days I understand Tobi actually. Lets just disregard that I think he's the best play by play caster out there. But for Tobi casting games is like players playing games. Of course you want to cast the best games, same as a player wants to be in the finals. Of course you're dissapointed when you dont get to cast the finals, as a player whose team was just eliminated.
Don't get me wrong; I fully sympathise with how Tobi feels and don't blame him. What I don't agree with is how he expresses it publicly.
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Stop with the caster bashing please unless you want to get banned.
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On September 02 2012 21:25 cecek wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 21:23 Julmust wrote:On September 02 2012 21:17 konadora wrote:On September 02 2012 21:14 rotegirte wrote:On September 02 2012 21:08 konadora wrote:On September 02 2012 21:05 rotegirte wrote:On September 02 2012 21:00 konadora wrote:On September 02 2012 20:57 cecek wrote:On September 02 2012 20:52 Fleuria wrote:
Tobi has the final, thats for certain
Luminous and LD probs have the lower bracket games. Not for certain. https://twitter.com/TobiWanDOTA/status/242155917372706817 Eventho all he does nowadays is bitching about getting bad games, be it on twitter or just slipping the remark in an interview, and is being fucking annoying with it, I still think him and Synd should be casting the grandfinals. yeah that whining and bitching is really getting on my nerves and makes me wonder if he's cut out to be a professional not sticking to appointed games for casting, doing whatever the fuck he wants, bitching OH SO SUBTLY on twitter when he doesnt get what he wants... immature. have you considered that you might be under oh so subtle confirmation bias? not really how about the fact you can interpret "oh so subtle" whining into any arbitrary text- how it boils down on pure speculation on your part. nope just look at how he's been acting the last few days I understand Tobi actually. Lets just disregard that I think he's the best play by play caster out there. But for Tobi casting games is like players playing games. Of course you want to cast the best games, same as a player wants to be in the finals. Of course you're dissapointed when you dont get to cast the finals, as a player whose team was just eliminated. Umm.. what? That doesn't make ANY sense.
He said, that Tobi is a fan like everybody else. Just like a player wants to play the best games, a caster wants to cast the best games. A fan wants to watch the best games. Not only Tobi, but also LD, Luminous, Ayesee, Godz, Nebula, 2GD, Purge, Sheever, V1lat, everyone wants the best games. That he would like to cast the finals as much as the other casters would like to. That he would like to cast the finals just like a player would like to play them.
That it's only natural.
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
On September 02 2012 21:29 rotegirte wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 21:25 cecek wrote:On September 02 2012 21:23 Julmust wrote:On September 02 2012 21:17 konadora wrote:On September 02 2012 21:14 rotegirte wrote:On September 02 2012 21:08 konadora wrote:On September 02 2012 21:05 rotegirte wrote:On September 02 2012 21:00 konadora wrote:On September 02 2012 20:57 cecek wrote:On September 02 2012 20:52 Fleuria wrote:
Tobi has the final, thats for certain
Luminous and LD probs have the lower bracket games. Not for certain. https://twitter.com/TobiWanDOTA/status/242155917372706817 Eventho all he does nowadays is bitching about getting bad games, be it on twitter or just slipping the remark in an interview, and is being fucking annoying with it, I still think him and Synd should be casting the grandfinals. yeah that whining and bitching is really getting on my nerves and makes me wonder if he's cut out to be a professional not sticking to appointed games for casting, doing whatever the fuck he wants, bitching OH SO SUBTLY on twitter when he doesnt get what he wants... immature. have you considered that you might be under oh so subtle confirmation bias? not really how about the fact you can interpret "oh so subtle" whining into any arbitrary text- how it boils down on pure speculation on your part. nope just look at how he's been acting the last few days I understand Tobi actually. Lets just disregard that I think he's the best play by play caster out there. But for Tobi casting games is like players playing games. Of course you want to cast the best games, same as a player wants to be in the finals. Of course you're dissapointed when you dont get to cast the finals, as a player whose team was just eliminated. Umm.. what? That doesn't make ANY sense. He said, that Tobi is a fan like everybody else. Just like a player wants to play the best games, a caster wants to cast the best games. A fan wants to watch the best games. Not only Tobi, but also LD, Luminous, Ayesee, Godz, Nebula, 2GD, Purge, Sheever, V1lat, everyone wants the best games. That he would like to cast the finals as much as the other casters would like to. That he would like to cast the finals just like a player would like to play them. That it's only natural.
It's not a competition between casters, unlike the teams. At least the casters shouldn't have that mentality, that's just wrong.
Anyway, stop the bashing, yeah...
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Awww, we got our very first LR warning! Kids grow so fast.
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iG vs NaVi game 2. I cried. I can die a happy death now. Fucking beautiful. ♥
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On September 02 2012 21:31 cecek wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 21:29 rotegirte wrote:On September 02 2012 21:25 cecek wrote:On September 02 2012 21:23 Julmust wrote:On September 02 2012 21:17 konadora wrote:On September 02 2012 21:14 rotegirte wrote:On September 02 2012 21:08 konadora wrote:On September 02 2012 21:05 rotegirte wrote:On September 02 2012 21:00 konadora wrote:On September 02 2012 20:57 cecek wrote:[quote] Not for certain. https://twitter.com/TobiWanDOTA/status/242155917372706817 Eventho all he does nowadays is bitching about getting bad games, be it on twitter or just slipping the remark in an interview, and is being fucking annoying with it, I still think him and Synd should be casting the grandfinals. yeah that whining and bitching is really getting on my nerves and makes me wonder if he's cut out to be a professional not sticking to appointed games for casting, doing whatever the fuck he wants, bitching OH SO SUBTLY on twitter when he doesnt get what he wants... immature. have you considered that you might be under oh so subtle confirmation bias? not really how about the fact you can interpret "oh so subtle" whining into any arbitrary text- how it boils down on pure speculation on your part. nope just look at how he's been acting the last few days I understand Tobi actually. Lets just disregard that I think he's the best play by play caster out there. But for Tobi casting games is like players playing games. Of course you want to cast the best games, same as a player wants to be in the finals. Of course you're dissapointed when you dont get to cast the finals, as a player whose team was just eliminated. Umm.. what? That doesn't make ANY sense. He said, that Tobi is a fan like everybody else. Just like a player wants to play the best games, a caster wants to cast the best games. A fan wants to watch the best games. Not only Tobi, but also LD, Luminous, Ayesee, Godz, Nebula, 2GD, Purge, Sheever, V1lat, everyone wants the best games. That he would like to cast the finals as much as the other casters would like to. That he would like to cast the finals just like a player would like to play them. That it's only natural. It's not a competition between casters, unlike the teams. At least the casters shouldn't have that mentality, that's just wrong. Anyway, stop the bashing, yeah...
No, it's not a competition. Last time:
Imagine you're a Dota caster. Would you ever say "Gee, I'd really like to cast the TI finals one day" That's it. Nothing more, nothing less.
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On September 02 2012 21:31 Steveling wrote:
Awww, we got our very first LR warning! Kids grow so fast.
All these strangers coming in speaking weird stuffs and i am horrified by that warning at the top 
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konadora
Singapore66364 Posts
of course i understand his passion and desire to cast the best games
but as a professional you don't dish out your complaints to the public during one of the biggest event that is still at a young age, nor just go around expecting everything to go your way and if it doesn't, start complaining about it
don't get me wrong, i'd love tobi to be casting the finals as well, but what he's doing now is just meh
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