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Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
September 01 2012 15:47 GMT
#10101
Someone should pick gyro. Gyro needs more love.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42412 Posts
September 01 2012 15:47 GMT
#10102
Synderen will be casting with Tobi at start, apparently.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 15:59:32
September 01 2012 15:57 GMT
#10103
Tobi just keeps shooting himself in the foot with his behavior. From what it looks like valve were setting Tobi up for the finals and giving the other casters more screen time now on the wb games to make up for that fact so everyone gets a piece of the cake but Tobi wants everything for himself it seems like. Some really selfish behavior which does nothing but worsen his image. I wonder if valve are going to give him anything after all the drama he has caused.
Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
September 01 2012 15:57 GMT
#10104
On September 02 2012 00:47 Fwizzz wrote:
Someone should pick gyro. Gyro needs more love.


doubt gyro will come out, but this hero is very good vs TA. If its brought out to counter her I'll say I called it, even though right now I say its not gonna picked. Perfect plan.

Maybe someone will try him vs a brood mother, but I don't think even tranquil boots could allow him to stay vs her solo.

an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 16:00:56
September 01 2012 15:59 GMT
#10105
On September 02 2012 00:47 Grettin wrote:
Synderen will be casting with Tobi at start, apparently.

Poor slesh .

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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 01 2012 15:59 GMT
#10106
On September 02 2012 00:27 Poorlilrich wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 21:46 Aknin wrote:
Jesus, did you see guys Vilat emotions at the end of 3rd Navi-DK game?
THIS IS INSANE, even if you dont understand russian
youtube.com/watch?v=6tZnEg1KqHk&t=35m00s (and next 2 minutes) :D


Agree; I listen to games either on mute with my own music or to v1lat's commentary, even if all I understand is "DAVAI DAVAI DAVAI OPA TREEEEPLE KEEEL!"

That's so much better than the english one, how could you miss XBOCT ulrta and rampage and instead stare at some prophet -_- so so bad ...

They should have russians observe
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
September 01 2012 16:00 GMT
#10107
On September 02 2012 00:57 Numy wrote:
Tobi just keeps shooting himself in the food with his behavior. From what it looks like valve were setting Tobi up for the finals and giving the other casters more screen time now on the wb games to make up for that fact so everyone gets a piece of the cake but Tobi wants everything for himself it seems like. Some really selfish behavior which does nothing but worsen his image. I wonder if valve are going to give him anything after all the drama he has caused.


Can we just stop this now please?

You don't know anything about what is going on. For all we know everything is going according to plan
"Yeah buddy"
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
September 01 2012 16:02 GMT
#10108
On September 02 2012 01:00 Ramong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 00:57 Numy wrote:
Tobi just keeps shooting himself in the food with his behavior. From what it looks like valve were setting Tobi up for the finals and giving the other casters more screen time now on the wb games to make up for that fact so everyone gets a piece of the cake but Tobi wants everything for himself it seems like. Some really selfish behavior which does nothing but worsen his image. I wonder if valve are going to give him anything after all the drama he has caused.


Can we just stop this now please?

You don't know anything about what is going on. For all we know everything is going according to plan



His usual lack of fan boy love bias for the Mouz game yesterday was pretty evident. He did not like having to cast the lower bracket finals, and would have obviously given his left nut to cast DK vs Na'VI.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 16:08:04
September 01 2012 16:05 GMT
#10109
On September 01 2012 23:19 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 23:07 bardtown wrote:
On September 01 2012 23:01 Shikyo wrote:
synderen + his team drama... I dont get it. Synderen is a very very good captain. Being a good captain is invaluable. Like let's take Puppey. He's a very good player, yes, but doesn't really tend to stand out especially. However, he's one of the very best captains around, and that's extremely important for the teams he plays with.

As said in Art of war, knowing yourself is important. You need to be able to work with your team's strenghts and abilities and use strategies that utilize them to the fullest, instead of just going "You don't lane well enough"... Especially because laning has nothing to do with being a captain so them not letting him do that job is just... completely under-utilizing your team's assets.

No wonder they dropped out and looked horrible against CLG. Hopefully. Synderen gets a more deserving team eventually.


Puppey makes huge plays, the only reason they don't stand out so much is because he's mostly on less visible impact heroes. And he's an amazing drafter/captain that Na'Vi clearly trust. But if syndereN loses the trust of his team it's going to impact his ability to captain them. If he does end up moving teams then a huge chunk of mTw's following will go with him.

I'm not saying puppey isn't a good player I'm saying that his main value for the team is still in his leadership just as is the case with synderen(Though I do think it's easier to play as captain when playing support or jungler because you tend to have a better view of the whole map like that)


In the same way that Synderen IS mTw, Puppey IS Na'VI. Dendi gets the spotlight for his big plays mid solo, but the operation mode of Na'Vi is that Puppey makes the decisions and everybody else follows. Na'Vi's success and failure, and the way they move and play, is all on Puppey.

This is also why Na'Vi plays very differently today than they did under ArtStyle. In the ArtStyle era it was all about tower diving and push push push and being in the opponent's base in 15 mins. But today you see a lot of slower, farming games from Na'Vi and a lot of quirky strategies that involve big team fighting heroes and late game play. This is Puppey.
Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
September 01 2012 16:06 GMT
#10110
30 minutes till day 2 of the playoffs! So excited .
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
September 01 2012 16:06 GMT
#10111
Yeah the way i see it, it was good planning by Valve actually.

The American games were split between the US casters. They are also there when most of the audience are still in the hall and it is not too late yet. Tobi get to cast his favourite European games + AL, his home country.

Tobi gets the grand finals ( or at least i think he was supposed to, not sure what will happen if he continues to ruffle feathers)). So opening games are given to other casters.

Don't think anyone has any ground to complain.

1 more hour! As much as i like the LB teams, i can't wait for the LB to be over and for the Main Course to start!
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
September 01 2012 16:08 GMT
#10112
On September 02 2012 00:57 Wysp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 00:47 Fwizzz wrote:
Someone should pick gyro. Gyro needs more love.


doubt gyro will come out, but this hero is very good vs TA. If its brought out to counter her I'll say I called it, even though right now I say its not gonna picked. Perfect plan.

Maybe someone will try him vs a brood mother, but I don't think even tranquil boots could allow him to stay vs her solo.



Yeah. Gyro is pretty weak compared to others. He's easily outclassed since there are better heroes in the pool.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 01 2012 16:09 GMT
#10113
On September 01 2012 21:42 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 21:36 paS- wrote:
You are really hyping synderen too much.

Whatever his skill level, it is clear they wouldn't have won Dreamhack or gotten to TI2 without him. Nor would they have a fraction of the fans mTw have today.

Anyway, some of these rumours sound like they could be grossly exaggerated to me and I actually regret bringing them onto TL; let's wait for an official statement from mTw soon.

They won because of him, but they also lost because of him. Don't give him praise for something and ignore things when things go bad because he is not a good mid player especially at this level. He should not be playing that role.
dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
September 01 2012 16:09 GMT
#10114
Day 2 thread or is this thread being continued...?

I loved hearing Vlat's casting DK vs Na'vi. Just so raw and emotional, just awesome.
luc14n0
Profile Joined August 2012
Brazil211 Posts
September 01 2012 16:09 GMT
#10115
IMO, Lumi + LD rocked the hardest yesterday.
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
September 01 2012 16:10 GMT
#10116
http://www.dota2.com/international/game/10/
here is vod and ingame replays and yeah you get commentary ingame if you watch replays
"Yeah buddy"
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
September 01 2012 16:14 GMT
#10117
Ayesee's voice. Dayuummm
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
September 01 2012 16:15 GMT
#10118
On September 02 2012 00:59 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 00:27 Poorlilrich wrote:
On September 01 2012 21:46 Aknin wrote:
Jesus, did you see guys Vilat emotions at the end of 3rd Navi-DK game?
THIS IS INSANE, even if you dont understand russian
youtube.com/watch?v=6tZnEg1KqHk&t=35m00s (and next 2 minutes) :D


Agree; I listen to games either on mute with my own music or to v1lat's commentary, even if all I understand is "DAVAI DAVAI DAVAI OPA TREEEEPLE KEEEL!"

That's so much better than the english one, how could you miss XBOCT ulrta and rampage and instead stare at some prophet -_- so so bad ...

They should have russians observe


imagine ST_Legend observing for TI2


On September 02 2012 01:09 dizzy101 wrote:
Day 2 thread or is this thread being continued...?

I loved hearing Vlat's casting DK vs Na'vi. Just so raw and emotional, just awesome.


this thread pretty much covers the whole International (mouz vs WE, prelims and playoffs until now).

possible that we'll get a separate thread for the grand finals though
ffxiv enjoyer
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
September 01 2012 16:15 GMT
#10119
SINGAPORE, SINGAPORE, SINGAPORE ! GO ZENITH KICK SOME BUTTS !!!!!!!!
sending sylar and his bodyguards to LB hell !!!!!!
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
September 01 2012 16:16 GMT
#10120
Orange got this.
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