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[LR] The International II - 2012 - Page 504
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
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Nobu
Spain550 Posts
On September 01 2012 21:47 ahappystar wrote: man... listening to v1lat cast game 3 navi vs DK... epic EDIT: lol Aknin you beat me to it  Really is lol... HAVOoOo-OooOoOO-OooOOooO-oOo-OooOSssS insane | ||
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Anima.pk
United States37 Posts
for fucks sake, this isn't some random in house league or whatnot. Top 16 teams are here, somebody is bound the get outlaned. Even the great dendi got outlaned by mushi and yamateh. Even 430 had some hard time during his NS play. All they are doing is finding something/someone to blame for their loss. They know for a fact that they don't have the best players skill-wise, they should just accept that fact for now and try to improve their individual play. Synd brought them to where they are right now given the limited skill set they have(no offense, at least compared to other top teams). They should know what they have and take it from there. | ||
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Nobu
Spain550 Posts
On September 01 2012 21:42 Firebolt145 wrote: Whatever his skill level, it is clear they wouldn't have won Dreamhack or gotten to TI2 without him. Nor would they have a fraction of the fans mTw have today. Anyway, some of these rumours sound like they could be grossly exaggerated to me and I actually regret bringing them onto TL; let's wait for an official statement from mTw soon. firebolt you droped the bomb, now you cant backup man  | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34505 Posts
On September 01 2012 22:19 Nobu wrote: firebolt you droped the bomb, now you cant backup man Well the more I think about it, the less I believe it. Rumours on the internet are pretty often highly exaggerated. | ||
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Gosi
Sweden9072 Posts
On September 01 2012 21:46 Aknin wrote: Jesus, did you see guys Vilat emotions at the end of 3rd Navi-DK game? THIS IS INSANE, even if you dont understand russian youtube.com/watch?v=6tZnEg1KqHk&t=35m00s (and next 2 minutes) :D Hahaha, reminds of Khaldor during the WCG 2008 wc3 final with Grubby. | ||
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kju
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Fwizzz
Philippines4420 Posts
On September 01 2012 22:47 kju wrote: are the LB games worth watching? I fell asleep during the mouz game T_T Nothing interesting imo. | ||
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Reap_
Brunei Darussalam760 Posts
On September 01 2012 22:47 kju wrote: are the LB games worth watching? I fell asleep during the mouz game T_T Moscow 5 vs TongFu might interest you a bit but the others are pretty one sided. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34505 Posts
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allen_ami
China1392 Posts
On September 01 2012 22:47 kju wrote: are the LB games worth watching? I fell asleep during the mouz game T_T EHome vs mouz kinda entertaining | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
As said in Art of war, knowing yourself is important. You need to be able to work with your team's strenghts and abilities and use strategies that utilize them to the fullest, instead of just going "You don't lane well enough"... Especially because laning has nothing to do with being a captain so them not letting him do that job is just... completely under-utilizing your team's assets. No wonder they dropped out and looked horrible against CLG. Hopefully. Synderen gets a more deserving team eventually. | ||
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bardtown
England2313 Posts
On September 01 2012 23:01 Shikyo wrote: synderen + his team drama... I dont get it. Synderen is a very very good captain. Being a good captain is invaluable. Like let's take Puppey. He's a very good player, yes, but doesn't really tend to stand out especially. However, he's one of the very best captains around, and that's extremely important for the teams he plays with. As said in Art of war, knowing yourself is important. You need to be able to work with your team's strenghts and abilities and use strategies that utilize them to the fullest, instead of just going "You don't lane well enough"... Especially because laning has nothing to do with being a captain so them not letting him do that job is just... completely under-utilizing your team's assets. No wonder they dropped out and looked horrible against CLG. Hopefully. Synderen gets a more deserving team eventually. Puppey makes huge plays, the only reason they don't stand out so much is because he's mostly on less visible impact heroes. And he's an amazing drafter/captain that Na'Vi clearly trust. But if syndereN loses the trust of his team it's going to impact his ability to captain them. If he does end up moving teams then a huge chunk of mTw's following will go with him. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On September 01 2012 23:07 bardtown wrote: Puppey makes huge plays, the only reason they don't stand out so much is because he's mostly on less visible impact heroes. And he's an amazing drafter/captain that Na'Vi clearly trust. But if syndereN loses the trust of his team it's going to impact his ability to captain them. If he does end up moving teams then a huge chunk of mTw's following will go with him. thats probably why he backed off and let another one draft/lead. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On September 01 2012 23:07 bardtown wrote: Puppey makes huge plays, the only reason they don't stand out so much is because he's mostly on less visible impact heroes. And he's an amazing drafter/captain that Na'Vi clearly trust. But if syndereN loses the trust of his team it's going to impact his ability to captain them. If he does end up moving teams then a huge chunk of mTw's following will go with him. I'm not saying puppey isn't a good player I'm saying that his main value for the team is still in his leadership just as is the case with synderen(Though I do think it's easier to play as captain when playing support or jungler because you tend to have a better view of the whole map like that) | ||
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ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
Its really a shame to see them falling apart like this, but if the team has really tuned him out, then shame on them. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On September 01 2012 23:53 Kipsate wrote: In my own personal opinion(which may be very wrong) mTw does not have great individual players , none of them really stand out to me as individual players, their teamwork, strategies, and methodical style however are so extremly good and allowed them to do as well as they have. Yea I don't get it. They performed well because of good drafts and working well as a team. Why on earth would they suddenly think it's about individual skill when they weren't ever relying on that. Seems like their members just got massive egos after doing well now they destroy the team. I am constantly surprised at how stupid professional gamers are at times. It makes even less sense to win a lan against Navi then all of a sudden have a new view on your own team before the biggest Dota 2 tournament in the year. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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