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Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
September 01 2012 12:22 GMT
#10041
I can't see why anyone would think mouz would be disbanding, they got much more out of TI that they could have ever hoped for. To even play, and they them self have said so in interviews countless of times
"Yeah buddy"
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
September 01 2012 12:28 GMT
#10042
On September 01 2012 21:22 TanGeng wrote:
What's the problem at mTw? Is it internal or just performance?

Internal. I posted earlier:

On September 01 2012 18:34 Firebolt145 wrote:
Anyway from the rumours I'm gathering from reddit and joinDota, the rest of mTw have basically zoned out Synderen and do not talk to him outside of playing the game. They consider him a bad solo mid, which is his traditional lane. As a result 7ckingmad is now their drafter and 'captain'.

I personally feel Synderen is the reason that mTw were able to beat the top powerhouses in Dreamhack etc. He brought them up from a low-mid tier team to a mid-high tier team. Without him they're going to fall into obscurity again. He may not be the most individually skilled player but he has the other skills necessary to build a team.
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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
September 01 2012 12:29 GMT
#10043
On September 01 2012 21:22 Ramong wrote:
I can't see why anyone would think mouz would be disbanding, they got much more out of TI that they could have ever hoped for. To even play, and they them self have said so in interviews countless of times

True, but I think a roster change-up is inevitable though
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
September 01 2012 12:30 GMT
#10044
On September 01 2012 21:29 ahappystar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 21:22 Ramong wrote:
I can't see why anyone would think mouz would be disbanding, they got much more out of TI that they could have ever hoped for. To even play, and they them self have said so in interviews countless of times

True, but I think a roster change-up is inevitable though

CWM might leave/quit the game but that may have been him just posting some silly upset twitter posts because he couldn't be there.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 12:33:23
September 01 2012 12:31 GMT
#10045
On September 01 2012 21:28 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 21:22 TanGeng wrote:
What's the problem at mTw? Is it internal or just performance?

Internal. I posted earlier:

Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 18:34 Firebolt145 wrote:
Anyway from the rumours I'm gathering from reddit and joinDota, the rest of mTw have basically zoned out Synderen and do not talk to him outside of playing the game. They consider him a bad solo mid, which is his traditional lane. As a result 7ckingmad is now their drafter and 'captain'.

I personally feel Synderen is the reason that mTw were able to beat the top powerhouses in Dreamhack etc. He brought them up from a low-mid tier team to a mid-high tier team. Without him they're going to fall into obscurity again. He may not be the most individually skilled player but he has the other skills necessary to build a team.


MTW is where they are right now only because of Synderen. Those bastards should be respectful to him. I hope he will find a better team for him, MTW doesn't deserve having a player of Synderen calibre in the team.
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 12:33:33
September 01 2012 12:32 GMT
#10046
No wonder mTw started performing so poorly in their recent games. I haven't seen any questionable performance from synderen in the vods of their games in other tournaments, but they made a ton of really weird drafting and laning decisions in this tournament, like Socksha playing sandking or having a lich/morphling combo at mid that didn't achieve much at all.

Granted, synderen isn't as inspiring as 430, but still, I didn't see him not doing his role decently whenever he took mid.
paS-
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany14 Posts
September 01 2012 12:36 GMT
#10047
You are really hyping synderen too much.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
September 01 2012 12:37 GMT
#10048
Synd is a solid, average player but a great mastermind of strategy and drafting, if the team doesn't want him it's either Synd being too bossy or the team just doesn't deserve him. Synd made them what they are and might have reminded them that as an argument in discussions and they didn't like it.
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
September 01 2012 12:42 GMT
#10049
On September 01 2012 21:36 paS- wrote:
You are really hyping synderen too much.

Whatever his skill level, it is clear they wouldn't have won Dreamhack or gotten to TI2 without him. Nor would they have a fraction of the fans mTw have today.

Anyway, some of these rumours sound like they could be grossly exaggerated to me and I actually regret bringing them onto TL; let's wait for an official statement from mTw soon.
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quannguyen
Profile Joined January 2012
Vietnam1390 Posts
September 01 2012 12:44 GMT
#10050
mTw without synderen will never win anything again, I'm sure of it. He's the sole reason why mTw is considered one of the better teams in Europe, and now he's treated like this . I hope synd can find a good team soon, or give up gaming and start casting full time with Tobi, anything he sees fit. He deserves all the best.
Unlimited Warcraft Works and Super Starcraft Taisen ^^
Aknin
Profile Joined September 2012
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 12:46:46
September 01 2012 12:46 GMT
#10051
Jesus, did you see guys Vilat emotions at the end of 3rd Navi-DK game?
THIS IS INSANE, even if you dont understand russian
youtube.com/watch?v=6tZnEg1KqHk&t=35m00s (and next 2 minutes) :D
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 12:48:56
September 01 2012 12:47 GMT
#10052
man... listening to v1lat cast game 3 navi vs DK... epic
EDIT: lol Aknin you beat me to it
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
mjuuy
Profile Joined May 2012
Norway506 Posts
September 01 2012 12:48 GMT
#10053
Any recommended games? You should have that in a LR y0
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬. 우정호 1988 - 2012
CursedRich
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom737 Posts
September 01 2012 12:50 GMT
#10054
thanks to everyone who posted the vods, just working my way through Navi games now very exciting!!!
Chill Winston......
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
September 01 2012 12:54 GMT
#10055
On September 01 2012 21:48 mjuuy wrote:
Any recommended games? You should have that in a LR y0

Zenith game 2 and 3 was reallllly flashy to watch. Last 10 minutes of Navi vs DK was fucking brilliant too.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
September 01 2012 12:55 GMT
#10056
Statman Bruno needs more love. Guy has godly chest hair.
amiGo_O
Profile Joined February 2012
Czech Republic959 Posts
September 01 2012 12:56 GMT
#10057
about Tobi ... I really like him, but I think others casters are doing hell of a job
plus combo Tobi + Slesh is terrible, they have no synergy, dont work together well ... arguing who is right and who is wrong isnt really my idea of great casting
♥ In Loda we trust ♥
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
September 01 2012 12:59 GMT
#10058
V1lat is as close to a korean BW cast as it gets. You even don't understand too much :D
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Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
September 01 2012 13:00 GMT
#10059
On September 01 2012 21:56 amiGo_O wrote:
about Tobi ... I really like him, but I think others casters are doing hell of a job
plus combo Tobi + Slesh is terrible, they have no synergy, dont work together well ... arguing who is right and who is wrong isnt really my idea of great casting


Tobi+Slesh combo just doesn't work. Slesh is terrbile imo.

I just watched the DK VS Navi game 3 VOD with Vilat. Fucking amazing commentary even though i don't understand a word.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
September 01 2012 13:01 GMT
#10060
On September 01 2012 21:37 Qbek wrote:
Synd is a solid, average player but a great mastermind of strategy and drafting, if the team doesn't want him it's either Synd being too bossy or the team just doesn't deserve him. Synd made them what they are and might have reminded them that as an argument in discussions and they didn't like it.


This +1. Although i dislike his way of treating the team (he literally treat the rest of the team like a bunch of kids, saw it a few times on stream) but if it worked then it is all good. I dont understand why synd always take mid though, i believe he is a good drafter/captain but his personal skill is pretty meh (compared to the real pros at mid). Why not just play the position 5 as many captains do is beyond me (but then again the guys in mtw are all pretty much lacking in personal skills.....).
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
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