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On August 28 2012 09:04 NB wrote: ... expecting news for TF disband soon... asian double standarn incoming
What's the deal with this "disband" meme I keep reading in the stream chats. I'm not a regular follower of the dota competitive scene so this is news to me.
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On August 28 2012 09:02 sirreginold wrote: Is Shadow Demon generally a weak hero? All the teams who pick him seem to always lose. no hes an amazing hero, but the teams that are picking him arent playing on his strengths, disruption should be used as a setup spell or as an obvious defensive spell ( against say a roar) but the teams are picking him as a generic, oh hes still in the pool i guess.
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So much rapage bottom lane. LGD is doing a good job and AM is just getting strong. I will admit it, as much as morph has become tiresome. I get even more tired of seeing Am.
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On August 28 2012 09:05 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2012 09:03 Vadrigar wrote:On August 28 2012 09:01 Itsmedudeman wrote:On August 28 2012 09:00 L3g3nd_ wrote:On August 28 2012 08:57 Itsmedudeman wrote:On August 28 2012 08:56 L3g3nd_ wrote:On August 28 2012 08:54 Itsmedudeman wrote: You know, I wonder how many games mouz has lost simply from the fact that bamboe saves up like 5k gold every game good players always hang onto their money mid/late game. if you get caught without buyback youre screwed Um, we're talking about 10 minutes in naked soul ring here sitting on 3k gold. on what hero? it can be the right thing to do depending on what item youre going for Brood, but it really isn't. There's no excuse to buy your item all at once in the early game when you have open slots. And he dies 4 times in a row cause he has no poor man's shield or any sort of survivability. he got an orchid what the fuck are you talking about? What? You know orchid comes in more than one piece right? its really common for a brood to not buy anything after soul ring boots and just sit on his money, both silence and bkb are good first items, sometimes its good to see how the game is going before deciding. A oblivion staff or ogre axe arent as powerful as the ability to decide your item choice 5-6 minutes later.
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On August 28 2012 09:06 MahKh wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2012 09:02 sirreginold wrote: Is Shadow Demon generally a weak hero? All the teams who pick him seem to always lose. no hes an amazing hero, but the teams that are picking him arent playing on his strengths, disruption should be used as a setup spell or as an obvious defensive spell ( against say a roar) but the teams are picking him as a generic, oh hes still in the pool i guess. there was a period in chinese dota where he was first ban almost every game because of how strong he is when played well
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bamboe lost mouz the game...
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On August 28 2012 09:07 Nilrem wrote: So much rapage bottom lane. LGD is doing a good job and AM is just getting strong. I will admit it, as much as morph has become tiresome. I get even more tired of seeing Am.
They're so dominating though. Even with the stale AM, LGD just does so amazingly that the game get's exciting.
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On August 28 2012 09:05 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2012 09:03 Vadrigar wrote:On August 28 2012 09:01 Itsmedudeman wrote:On August 28 2012 09:00 L3g3nd_ wrote:On August 28 2012 08:57 Itsmedudeman wrote:On August 28 2012 08:56 L3g3nd_ wrote:On August 28 2012 08:54 Itsmedudeman wrote: You know, I wonder how many games mouz has lost simply from the fact that bamboe saves up like 5k gold every game good players always hang onto their money mid/late game. if you get caught without buyback youre screwed Um, we're talking about 10 minutes in naked soul ring here sitting on 3k gold. on what hero? it can be the right thing to do depending on what item youre going for Brood, but it really isn't. There's no excuse to buy your item all at once in the early game when you have open slots. And he dies 4 times in a row cause he has no poor man's shield or any sort of survivability. he got an orchid what the fuck are you talking about? What? You know orchid comes in more than one piece right?
what what? He didn't die before getting the orchid. He didn't buy anything because they were 3 man pushing the T2 far and the chance of dying is very low. Once he was alone he spent the money on an orchid and started getting ganged. So you're talking out of your ass. it's another question why he kept feeding like that...
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God I fucking love carry Tiny.
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A rax suddenly dissapears /tiny'd
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On August 28 2012 09:09 Testuser wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2012 09:07 Nilrem wrote: So much rapage bottom lane. LGD is doing a good job and AM is just getting strong. I will admit it, as much as morph has become tiresome. I get even more tired of seeing Am. They're so dominating though. Even with the stale AM, LGD just does so amazingly that the game get's exciting.
Yeah, LGD is just dominating at this point. Even in the beginning, the lanes felt weird. Like, I understood why they were doing it, but it just did not seem very strong (as if LGD was at the advantage from the get-go). Al kept getting kills on veno which does not really do a whole lot (since it is veno... who always dies).
Yao has done such a good job, and Rubrick getting the hook was hilarious.
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On August 28 2012 09:08 L3g3nd_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2012 09:05 Itsmedudeman wrote:On August 28 2012 09:03 Vadrigar wrote:On August 28 2012 09:01 Itsmedudeman wrote:On August 28 2012 09:00 L3g3nd_ wrote:On August 28 2012 08:57 Itsmedudeman wrote:On August 28 2012 08:56 L3g3nd_ wrote:On August 28 2012 08:54 Itsmedudeman wrote: You know, I wonder how many games mouz has lost simply from the fact that bamboe saves up like 5k gold every game good players always hang onto their money mid/late game. if you get caught without buyback youre screwed Um, we're talking about 10 minutes in naked soul ring here sitting on 3k gold. on what hero? it can be the right thing to do depending on what item youre going for Brood, but it really isn't. There's no excuse to buy your item all at once in the early game when you have open slots. And he dies 4 times in a row cause he has no poor man's shield or any sort of survivability. he got an orchid what the fuck are you talking about? What? You know orchid comes in more than one piece right? its really common for a brood to not buy anything after soul ring boots and just sit on his money, both silence and bkb are good first items, sometimes its good to see how the game is going before deciding. A oblivion staff or ogre axe arent as powerful as the ability to decide your item choice 5-6 minutes later. Except you're sitting there with a naked soul ring, no survivability and hoping they don't have dust, even though they have track from bounty hunter. He died 6 times in a row because of it, and he's lucky he didn't die 10 times in a row if they had caught on the fact he had 700 hp, no boots, no poor man's shield sitting past the tier 2 tower. Please explain to me the myriad of item choices he was going to go for in that situation that wouldn't be related to the early game? A manta style or orchid or something earlier. In this particular game a good player would've figured it out by then.
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Rubick with panda ulti and Rubick with hook - some fun stuff today :D
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Anyone else feel cs is an outdated stat compared to gpm? Not only is there a big difference between killing ancients and an easy camp (both 1 cs) but cs doesn't take into account towers (and kills/assists/deaths/everything else) which can be a huge part of someones farm. I don't understand why most of the time commentators harp on about c and show it as a stat and it's up on the live scoreboard as well when I'd get 2x more info if they just showed gpm.
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lol Ehome give morphling to mTw and then stomp them with Tiny.
Chinese Overlords. TOO STRONG.
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LGD ... So fucking sick. That coordination is completely insane to watch.
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On August 28 2012 09:14 figq wrote: Rubick with panda ulti and Rubick with hook - some fun stuff today :D
I think in terms of TL2, Morph and Rubrick have been the highlights thus far. Pudge has been getting picked more than I expected.
Sad though the match was so one sided. LGD just destroyed them.
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On August 28 2012 09:15 AndyJay wrote: Anyone else feel cs is an outdated stat compared to gpm? Not only is there a big difference between killing ancients and an easy camp (both 1 cs) but cs doesn't take into account towers (and kills/assists/deaths/everything else) which can be a huge part of someones farm. I don't understand why most of the time commentators harp on about c and show it as a stat and it's up on the live scoreboard as well when I'd get 2x more info if they just showed gpm. it is an outdated stat, but its the stat the scene had been forced to use for an incredibly long time. there was no gpm in dota 1, and people understood what the cs translated to, and back in dota 1 cs did not include neutrals in the normal number, so your cs was your exact creep count, i agree though, gpm should be used in the future
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On August 28 2012 09:17 Prime`Rib wrote: lol Ehome give morphling to mTw and then stomp them with Tiny.
Chinese Overlords. TOO STRONG.
But... CoL.
EU Dota has been a great disappointment this TI 2, I have to say.
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On August 28 2012 09:14 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2012 09:08 L3g3nd_ wrote:On August 28 2012 09:05 Itsmedudeman wrote:On August 28 2012 09:03 Vadrigar wrote:On August 28 2012 09:01 Itsmedudeman wrote:On August 28 2012 09:00 L3g3nd_ wrote:On August 28 2012 08:57 Itsmedudeman wrote:On August 28 2012 08:56 L3g3nd_ wrote:On August 28 2012 08:54 Itsmedudeman wrote: You know, I wonder how many games mouz has lost simply from the fact that bamboe saves up like 5k gold every game good players always hang onto their money mid/late game. if you get caught without buyback youre screwed Um, we're talking about 10 minutes in naked soul ring here sitting on 3k gold. on what hero? it can be the right thing to do depending on what item youre going for Brood, but it really isn't. There's no excuse to buy your item all at once in the early game when you have open slots. And he dies 4 times in a row cause he has no poor man's shield or any sort of survivability. he got an orchid what the fuck are you talking about? What? You know orchid comes in more than one piece right? its really common for a brood to not buy anything after soul ring boots and just sit on his money, both silence and bkb are good first items, sometimes its good to see how the game is going before deciding. A oblivion staff or ogre axe arent as powerful as the ability to decide your item choice 5-6 minutes later. Except you're sitting there with a naked soul ring, no survivability and hoping they don't have dust, even though they have track from bounty hunter. He died 6 times in a row because of it, and he's lucky he didn't die 10 times in a row if they had caught on the fact he had 700 hp, no boots, no poor man's shield sitting past the tier 2 tower. Please explain to me the myriad of item choices he was going to go for in that situation that wouldn't be related to the early game? A manta style or orchid or something earlier. In this particular game a good player would've figured it out by then. i didnt see the game, and ive never said he played well or that he shouldnt have bought items, just that the play youve described is very similar to almost all brood play, but as i havent seen the game i cant engage in a discussion of specifics related to that game
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