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quannguyen
Profile Joined January 2012
Vietnam1390 Posts
February 12 2013 18:50 GMT
#181
That Midas into BF is so fucking greedy it's not even funny. Loda please, just stop doing this >.<
Unlimited Warcraft Works and Super Starcraft Taisen ^^
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
February 12 2013 18:50 GMT
#182
On February 13 2013 03:46 ZasZ. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 03:40 Fwizzz wrote:
This is the first time i've seen a Gyro support. I think it's gimmicky and not effective.


Then you need to watch more NTH games. Akke runs Gyro as support quite often, and for the most part it is effective. Aside from the mindgames of picking Gyro and your opponents not knowing whether that is your carry, a trilane support, or mid, he has a good set of skills that help gank in the early/mid game with minimal items, and can transition into a strong late-game.

I think the problem that game was definitely the PA pick (wtfz?) and letting XBOCT free-farm on Phantom Lancer, which is a big no-no. That hero needs to be shut down early and fast, but their draft didn't really let them do that because if they sent 2 or even 3 heroes down there to gank him, they would get counter-initiated by Dendi/Puppey.

NTH is pretty good at running unconventional supports, and it lends strength to their draft because teams don't know if that Gyro or Sven is in a farming role or not until they see the rest of the picks. It works, but you do have to structure your draft around it and picking a wonky carry like PA against Na'Vi is probably not the smartest decision.

To be honest, it didn't matter at all what hero Loda was playing. As long as it was a melee rightclick carry and he went for midas, he is useless in the relevant portion of this game. That means that Na'Vi can comfortably play 4v5, because one of nth's heroes barely contributes anything. This allows xboct to farm some midgme cost effective items and just end the game. If you look at the game, the wisp even didn't do much, he used his ultimate twice.
super gg
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
February 12 2013 18:51 GMT
#183
On February 13 2013 03:48 teapoted wrote:
Anyway, you guys ready to watch Fnatic get their ass kicked? It's revenge time.

Just for the love of god don't give them wisp.

No wai.
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teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
February 12 2013 18:52 GMT
#184
On February 13 2013 03:51 739 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 03:48 teapoted wrote:
Anyway, you guys ready to watch Fnatic get their ass kicked? It's revenge time.

Just for the love of god don't give them wisp.

No wai.
Well you better get ready then
Once you Goblak...
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
February 12 2013 18:52 GMT
#185
It's a bo1, anything can happen...
super gg
duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
February 12 2013 18:53 GMT
#186
On February 13 2013 03:50 quannguyen wrote:
That Midas into BF is so fucking greedy it's not even funny. Loda please, just stop doing this >.<

I would LOVE to see Western teams play any Chinese team next week... it would be so much fun.
"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
February 12 2013 18:53 GMT
#187
Maybe he realized they lost the draft and thought he could only get back into it with midas/bfury?
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-12 18:56:16
February 12 2013 18:55 GMT
#188
On February 13 2013 03:53 danl9rm wrote:
Maybe he realized they lost the draft and thought he could only get back into it with midas/bfury?
Loda always goes Midas, seemingly regardless of the situation.

For being such an experienced player he really doesn't show it in his play, as someone who was a Loda fan back in the day it's pretty hard to be now. He seems too stubborn and unreliable.
Once you Goblak...
duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
February 12 2013 18:56 GMT
#189
At least they have Kawa a proper mic now! Yay..
"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
February 12 2013 18:57 GMT
#190
On February 13 2013 03:53 duoform wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 03:50 quannguyen wrote:
That Midas into BF is so fucking greedy it's not even funny. Loda please, just stop doing this >.<

I would LOVE to see Western teams play any Chinese team next week... it would be so much fun.

"Got my midas online, just about to buy a claymor.... what's that? We lost a rax already? Well, fuck."
super gg
ForTheDream
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany1780 Posts
February 12 2013 18:57 GMT
#191
On February 13 2013 03:53 duoform wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 03:50 quannguyen wrote:
That Midas into BF is so fucking greedy it's not even funny. Loda please, just stop doing this >.<

I would LOVE to see Western teams play any Chinese team next week... it would be so much fun.

yeah, since chinese players are on holiday would be super fun :D
i can't wait for g-league finals aaaaaaaahhhh ^_^
In BurNIng we trust.
quannguyen
Profile Joined January 2012
Vietnam1390 Posts
February 12 2013 18:58 GMT
#192
On February 13 2013 03:55 teapoted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 03:53 danl9rm wrote:
Maybe he realized they lost the draft and thought he could only get back into it with midas/bfury?
Loda always goes Midas, seemingly regardless of the situation.

For being such an experienced player he really doesn't show it in his play, as someone who was a Loda fan back in the day it's pretty hard to be now. He seems too stubborn and unreliable.


I'm with you man. He used to be the most feared and versatile carry player in Europe. Now his play is just very stale and reeks of reckless, sometimes even stupid moves. Its really sad T__T
Unlimited Warcraft Works and Super Starcraft Taisen ^^
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
February 12 2013 18:58 GMT
#193
On February 13 2013 03:57 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 03:53 duoform wrote:
On February 13 2013 03:50 quannguyen wrote:
That Midas into BF is so fucking greedy it's not even funny. Loda please, just stop doing this >.<

I would LOVE to see Western teams play any Chinese team next week... it would be so much fun.

"Got my midas online, just about to buy a claymor.... what's that? We lost a rax already? Well, fuck."

I'd like to see them against sea dota tbh "Got my mida- Oh god they just got 30 kills".
Glorious SEA doto
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38199 Posts
February 12 2013 19:01 GMT
#194
On February 13 2013 03:58 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 03:57 cecek wrote:
On February 13 2013 03:53 duoform wrote:
On February 13 2013 03:50 quannguyen wrote:
That Midas into BF is so fucking greedy it's not even funny. Loda please, just stop doing this >.<

I would LOVE to see Western teams play any Chinese team next week... it would be so much fun.

"Got my midas online, just about to buy a claymor.... what's that? We lost a rax already? Well, fuck."

I'd like to see them against sea dota tbh "Got my mida- Oh god they just got 30 kills".


It could also be "Got my mida- Oh woo they just fed me 30 kills too" =D
Makenshi
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden2105 Posts
February 12 2013 19:02 GMT
#195
On February 13 2013 03:58 quannguyen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 03:55 teapoted wrote:
On February 13 2013 03:53 danl9rm wrote:
Maybe he realized they lost the draft and thought he could only get back into it with midas/bfury?
Loda always goes Midas, seemingly regardless of the situation.

For being such an experienced player he really doesn't show it in his play, as someone who was a Loda fan back in the day it's pretty hard to be now. He seems too stubborn and unreliable.


I'm with you man. He used to be the most feared and versatile carry player in Europe. Now his play is just very stale and reeks of reckless, sometimes even stupid moves. Its really sad T__T

in his defense, didn't he say he's gonna need some time to get used to playing in a #1 position again since he's been playing as #3 for so long? Atleast i remember hearing that during a dreamhack interview.. sure it's been a few months but he might get back to form
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
February 12 2013 19:12 GMT
#196
This is ESM now.
super gg
ForTheDream
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany1780 Posts
February 12 2013 19:13 GMT
#197
On February 13 2013 04:12 cecek wrote:
This is ESM now.

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In BurNIng we trust.
quannguyen
Profile Joined January 2012
Vietnam1390 Posts
February 12 2013 19:14 GMT
#198
No H4nni for Fnatic eh? This is gonna be ugly.
Unlimited Warcraft Works and Super Starcraft Taisen ^^
renfree
Profile Joined November 2012
4485 Posts
February 12 2013 19:14 GMT
#199
NTh lost the draft horribly. You don't draft PA, Furion and support Gyro against CK-Wisp combination, they just melt. Those 2 heroes alone countered 3 of NTH's. The only good heroes NTH drafted were TA and Nyx, but again - TA can't do shit against PL.
Time to stop banning Kunkka on 1st round against QPAD Envy, and back to the drawing desk.
What can change the nature of a man?
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
February 12 2013 19:18 GMT
#200
Who's Doomix, anyway? The name is familiar.
super gg
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