Na´Vi tries to play full ganking style like in the past and just win with pure individual skill. You can see that obviously doesn't work anymore. It just feels like there is no strategy behind there plays nowadays.

FuzzyJAM

Scotland9300 Posts

January 30 2013 18:23 GMT

#86

Disappointed in Na'Vi. I get that they're trying to save their mentality during a period where they'd be expected to under-perform due to holidays ("We're, like, totally not trying, man, so it doesn't matter if we lose!") but it's disrespectful to the tens of thousands of spectators that give them their job.

Yoshi-

Germany10227 Posts

January 30 2013 18:25 GMT

#87

"i like men no homo"
did i heard that username right?

Vankuga

Panama2005 Posts

January 30 2013 18:26 GMT

#88

On January 31 2013 03:21 Asha` wrote:

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Pretty dumb given there was about 45k people watching that series

I think in that quote Puppey is talking about players, not spectators.

But it feels like Na'Vi is playing only to fulfill the schedule and not to win. Its pretty sad because they have the talent and only need to train and be more dedicated.

Snorkle

United States1648 Posts

January 30 2013 18:28 GMT

#89

I was never a huge fan of navi but damn are they close to making me into an anti. They can say online doesnt matter and we arr on vacation all they want, fact is they just got served a big helping of humble pie.

teapoted

United Kingdom24425 Posts

January 30 2013 18:29 GMT

#90

On January 31 2013 03:21 Asha` wrote:

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Pretty dumb given there was about 45k people watching that series

I don't know if you've realized this. But Puppey, as much as he may know about the game, is not a smart man. And he's not especially respectful either. They may not care about online tournaments, but their fans do.

Either way, finally betting on VP every game has paid off. And it's a shame that people sort of disregard any win against Na'Vi online, because VP played very well.

Vankuga

Panama2005 Posts

January 30 2013 18:33 GMT

#91

Is there a western team that is consistent in their performance and results? Empire is the only one that comes in mind.

But nevertheless, VP played good, its good to see their are improving, makes thing more exciting.

Yoshi-

Germany10227 Posts

January 30 2013 18:34 GMT

#92

Well their are plenty of teams that are consistent "bad".

kiy0

Portugal593 Posts

January 30 2013 18:35 GMT

#93

On January 31 2013 03:23 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Disappointed in Na'Vi. I get that they're trying to save their mentality during a period where they'd be expected to under-perform due to holidays ("We're, like, totally not trying, man, so it doesn't matter if we lose!") but it's disrespectful to the tens of thousands of spectators that give them their job.

It's not a matter of respect towards the fans. This happens to every team that hits the top, especially in a scene that has a tournament with 50 times the prize money and reputation of any other tournament like The International. You internally don't feel the motivation to practice for these event. Also, they have been on vacation for weeks. Dendi got back just yesterday, they haven't played as a team for a long time.

Remember when they came back from that "minislump" when AA started playing Nyx and Puppey a lot of Wisp after one day of practice? This is Na´Vi we're talking about. Everybody, including Puppey himself, would bet on VP to win this series. Maybe not this convincingly, but a sure loss.

You can expect Na´Vi to crank up practice in the upcoming weeks, including at least one bootcamp in China. They will be back... It's just a matter of time.

teapoted

United Kingdom24425 Posts

January 30 2013 18:36 GMT

#94

Not really about being consistent in results, should at least practice and show some interest in the matches. Or not play.

We all know they can get back to strength but it would be nice if we didn't have to have this conversation all the time.

Sadir

Vatican City State1176 Posts

January 30 2013 18:39 GMT

#95

I am really disappointed in navis games and especially in their picks in the 2nd game
they show how arrogant especially ppy can be
everybody can lose a game here and there
and you can get rolled - no shame in that
but if you get rolled twice with basically the same strategy....
that just shows how they think they are just better than everybody (apart of their lack of training as sb said!?!?)
in my eyes, the 2nd game was lost out of pride - because they wanted to show that they can beat the whisp strat
...thats shamefull to the fans

TheEmulator

28089 Posts

January 30 2013 18:41 GMT

#96

Good games. Na`Vi seemed really weak though

FuzzyJAM

Scotland9300 Posts

January 30 2013 18:47 GMT

#97

On January 31 2013 03:35 kiy0 wrote:

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I have no problem with them having a bad game, it's to be expected.

I do have a problem with them clearly not putting in much effort.

Snorkle

United States1648 Posts

January 30 2013 18:53 GMT

#98

I can assure you getting stomped twice by the same strat and quitting at 10 min in front of 45k viewers damages your reputation. Especially when you dont have a navi homer like tobi making excuses for them during the cast.

SFC

2053 Posts

January 30 2013 18:55 GMT

#99

On January 31 2013 03:33 Vankuga wrote:
Is there a western team that is consistent in their performance and results? Empire is the only one that comes in mind.

But nevertheless, VP played good, its good to see their are improving, makes thing more exciting.

I feel Dignitas is pretty consistent, they have been playing really well for quite a long time.