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RaidCall Dota 2 League - Season IIWednesday, Jan 30 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) / 18:00 CETWebsite: http://d2l.evilgeniuses.net/Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv2Casters: Ayesee & TBD Match VOD: http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv2/b/362281911
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/18tML.jpg) The 12 competing teams will play in a round robin format with each team matchup containing at least four best of three games between two teams. The top 4 teams in Season 2 will fight for the $10,000 prize pool to be split by the top three teams following a live Finals Weekend event.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/7YZu8.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/jSHOo.png) ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/ee.png) Puppey ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/ru.png) lightofheaven ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/ua.png) Dendi XBOCT ARS-ARTS ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/rk5yz.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/b5FkL.png) Ksi NS Santa Crazy Illidan
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/S8i3p.jpg) Poll: Who do you think will win?Na'Vi (13) 68% Virtus Pro (6) 32% 19 total votes Your vote: Who do you think will win? (Vote): Na'Vi
(Vote): Virtus Pro
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
Hoping for some "WHAT A GAME" like Na`Vi vs 3DMAX 
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
VP got this easy, with naga.
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So who is ayesee casting with?
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
Looks like Draskyl is in the game, so I'm assuming Draskyl.
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
They're all online by the way
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
Now all of Na'Vi instantly join. Maybe they were in a scrim or something.
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Northern Ireland22208 Posts
I'd say Na'Vi, but after yesterday, I'm hesitant
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
Eh, Na'Vi when they haven't been playing for a while always have a bad game or two.
I think they'll play much better than yesterday. But I'm a VP fan so I hope they don't -.-
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
I'm hoping for some non-standard picks from Na`Vi like they did yesterday <3 But probably a Naix pick if not banned.
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
xboct with empire icon...
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
Whatever, they banned cause Airman is pretty good Naix too.
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
VP were the ones who brought Naix back into the Western scene. (obviously some teams played him, but they played him constantly and then Empire/Na'Vi started banning him and picking him)
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GO GO NAVI =) bzw i just realized while lurking the speedrun thread that the fee from [the best game ever made] Zelda OOT is also called NAVI =)
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Northern Ireland22208 Posts
On January 31 2013 02:12 cecek wrote:
xboct with empire icon...
Haha wtf trolling?
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I like both teams, Na'Vi for being the heroes and VP for being the awesome up and comers. VP has fallen off a bit but a month or so ago, they were cleaning house.
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
AA Rubick? I don't remember ever seeing him play Ruby. (0 games on dota-academy)
Anyway, I really like Na'Vi's line-up. But they have to be pretty careful to not get gank-trained.
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2 naver sets in a row they go 5 bottom as dire and LoH gives firstblood. 
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
I'm assuming QOP (apart from being QOP and amazing + having a mag/DS) was also picked because she can get away from Wisp ganks.
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Cmon XBOCT, don't fuck the bear up.
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
XBOCT on LD ? Haha, gotta see that.
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
On January 31 2013 02:28 739 wrote:
XBOCT on LD ? Haha, gotta see that.
xboct plays a good bear. This is not he first they've done it.
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XBOCT must be a sad sad bear after Dendi missed that ult. : (
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
XBOCT is 4-1 with LD on dota-academy.
Not counting a lot of games though.
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
On January 31 2013 02:32 teapoted wrote:
XBOCT is 4-1 with LD on dota-academy.
Not counting a lot of games though.
BUT HE'S A NOOB TIER 2 CARRY. I BET HE CAN'T EVEN MICRO 2 UNITS.
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United Kingdom38255 Posts
Dendi airballing back to back ults heh
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Northern Ireland22208 Posts
Nice sort-of turnaround from VP there
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
Well if we're comparing to Chinese carries maybe =P
Anyway. How did that RP hit so far away, was that a vac+rp at the exact same time or something.
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
Did AA just blink back like 5 meters? It looked like he teleported into clockwork before dying. Was it blinding light or something? I'm confused.
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Northern Ireland22208 Posts
These fights are just like..Na'Vi looking good, then suddenly massive illuminate destroys Na'Vi
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On January 31 2013 02:41 teapoted wrote:
Did AA just blink back like 5 meters? It looked like he teleported into clockwork before dying.
Do you mean that he blinked too far or too short
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
On January 31 2013 02:42 Yoshi- wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 02:41 teapoted wrote:
Did AA just blink back like 5 meters? It looked like he teleported into clockwork before dying. Do you mean that he blinked too far or too short Does he even have a blink? It looked like he teleported a tiny distance.
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Next level relocate from NS :D
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On January 31 2013 02:44 teapoted wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 02:42 Yoshi- wrote:On January 31 2013 02:41 teapoted wrote:
Did AA just blink back like 5 meters? It looked like he teleported into clockwork before dying. Do you mean that he blinked too far or too short Does he even have a blink? It looked like he teleported a tiny distance.
illusory orb stolen probably
or blinding light/cogs interaction
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Damn I miss G-League... watching matches lately is just sad.
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On January 31 2013 02:44 teapoted wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 02:42 Yoshi- wrote:On January 31 2013 02:41 teapoted wrote:
Did AA just blink back like 5 meters? It looked like he teleported into clockwork before dying. Do you mean that he blinked too far or too short Does he even have a blink? It looked like he teleported a tiny distance.
The push from clock mb?
Reality rift?
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
Ah, it was probably puck orb, explained why he went into clock. Maybe visual glitch didn't show it.
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Is Na'vi drunk again?
These plays was pathetic.
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armlet toggle is pretty good
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I wonder at what point the na'vi slogan of "chinese are just too dedicated" will turn to "we rely on talent instead of practice and hard work."
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Puppey is protesting for DotaBuff case? Seriously, he is just feeding for the last 10 minutes.
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Puppey must also feel really bad. All those 3-4 second stuns.
KotL has halberd now. Fun ends now.
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On January 31 2013 02:47 Lovely So Handsome wrote:
I wonder at what point the na'vi slogan of "chinese are just too dedicated" will turn to "we rely on talent instead of practice and hard work."
Puppey's thoughts about Chinese are just stupid... don't mind what he says. If Na'Vi were to play any of the Chinese teams right now they would just get stomped.
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
On January 31 2013 02:17 teapoted wrote:
Anyway, I really like Na'Vi's line-up. But they have to be pretty careful to not get gank-trained. I still really like Na'Vi's lineup but yeah. VP executed amazingly and Na'Vi had pretty poor positioning a lot of the time, ending up in situations where 1-2 get caught out first.
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United Kingdom38255 Posts
VP going to start playing some good games just in time for another SL season? =p
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
Well VP has quietly been improving ever since a couple of weeks before the ASUS tournament.
Although they have some really dumb games. But hey, even iG sometimes picks Axe and get knocked out of LAN tournaments, right?
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VP bringing back the gank squad strat for dota. VP will save eSports. 
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On January 31 2013 02:52 Asha` wrote:
VP going to start playing some good games just in time for another SL season? =p
don't worry, Santa's team will never be anywhere close to stable performance
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Netherlands19135 Posts
I've noticed how it's kinda always the same hero's that do navi in, wisp+ck and puck.
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On January 31 2013 02:59 Nyovne wrote:
I've noticed how it's kinda always the same hero's that do navi in, wisp+ck and puck.
At least that's what they played against in the last matches but yeah they seem to struggle against that style.
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CK+Wisp, what a surprise.
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
Does anyone in the west not struggle against wisp/ck?
This game is going to get really ugly for Na'Vi unless they dominate lanes.
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Dendi Pudge. Okay.
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Northern Ireland22208 Posts
WHOOP Dendi playing pudge :D
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
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Expecting sick hooks OPA!
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
What a nice block from Dendi/Puppey and fb on poor clock.
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Puppey, wtf...come on, dude.
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Na'Vi playing like a true CIS team more and more frequently
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Navi getting outclassed in all lanes lol.
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VP 2-0 incoming?, sigh, hard to be a Na'Vi fan, playing really bad.
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
On January 31 2013 03:14 Vankuga wrote:
VP 2-0, sigh, hard to be a Na'Vi fan, playing really bad. If it makes you feel any better it's harder to be a VP fan with some of the games they have =P
Either way this is good play from VP, but more than that mediocre laning and a lot of over-extensions from Na'Vi.
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
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On January 31 2013 03:18 739 wrote:
GG Na`Vi, stomped.
I don't even know why people watch Na'Vi play online to be honest..
As Puppey said "People don't give a fuck about these tournaments..."
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
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Well, that was absolutely disgusting. VP earning a well deserved win.
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Northern Ireland22208 Posts
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feel so bad for LoH lol...
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so na'vi pretty bad right now, guess vacation mode but that was sadddd.
well played VP, absolutely crushed.
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On January 31 2013 03:19 duoform wrote:I don't even know why people watch Na'Vi play online to be honest.. As Puppey said "People don't give a fuck about these tournaments..."
if they only played better offline. but dreamhack and "asus end of the year" proved otherwise.
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United Kingdom38255 Posts
On January 31 2013 03:19 duoform wrote:I don't even know why people watch Na'Vi play online to be honest.. As Puppey said "People don't give a fuck about these tournaments..."
Pretty dumb given there was about 45k people watching that series
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On January 31 2013 03:19 duoform wrote:
I don't even know why people watch Na'Vi play online to be honest..
So you can hopefully get an item and sell it to na'vi fanboys.
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IDK why you wouldn't go for aggressive trilane of some sort vs vp if they pick wisp and a jungler every game
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Na´Vi tries to play full ganking style like in the past and just win with pure individual skill. You can see that obviously doesn't work anymore. It just feels like there is no strategy behind there plays nowadays.
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Disappointed in Na'Vi. I get that they're trying to save their mentality during a period where they'd be expected to under-perform due to holidays ("We're, like, totally not trying, man, so it doesn't matter if we lose!") but it's disrespectful to the tens of thousands of spectators that give them their job.
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"i like men no homo"
did i heard that username right?
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On January 31 2013 03:21 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 03:19 duoform wrote:On January 31 2013 03:18 739 wrote:
GG Na`Vi, stomped. I don't even know why people watch Na'Vi play online to be honest.. As Puppey said "People don't give a fuck about these tournaments..." Pretty dumb given there was about 45k people watching that series
I think in that quote Puppey is talking about players, not spectators.
But it feels like Na'Vi is playing only to fulfill the schedule and not to win. Its pretty sad because they have the talent and only need to train and be more dedicated.
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I was never a huge fan of navi but damn are they close to making me into an anti. They can say online doesnt matter and we arr on vacation all they want, fact is they just got served a big helping of humble pie.
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
On January 31 2013 03:21 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 03:19 duoform wrote:On January 31 2013 03:18 739 wrote:
GG Na`Vi, stomped. I don't even know why people watch Na'Vi play online to be honest.. As Puppey said "People don't give a fuck about these tournaments..." Pretty dumb given there was about 45k people watching that series I don't know if you've realized this. But Puppey, as much as he may know about the game, is not a smart man. And he's not especially respectful either. They may not care about online tournaments, but their fans do.
Either way, finally betting on VP every game has paid off. And it's a shame that people sort of disregard any win against Na'Vi online, because VP played very well.
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Is there a western team that is consistent in their performance and results? Empire is the only one that comes in mind.
But nevertheless, VP played good, its good to see their are improving, makes thing more exciting.
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Well their are plenty of teams that are consistent "bad".
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On January 31 2013 03:23 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Disappointed in Na'Vi. I get that they're trying to save their mentality during a period where they'd be expected to under-perform due to holidays ("We're, like, totally not trying, man, so it doesn't matter if we lose!") but it's disrespectful to the tens of thousands of spectators that give them their job.
It's not a matter of respect towards the fans. This happens to every team that hits the top, especially in a scene that has a tournament with 50 times the prize money and reputation of any other tournament like The International. You internally don't feel the motivation to practice for these event. Also, they have been on vacation for weeks. Dendi got back just yesterday, they haven't played as a team for a long time.
Remember when they came back from that "minislump" when AA started playing Nyx and Puppey a lot of Wisp after one day of practice? This is Na´Vi we're talking about. Everybody, including Puppey himself, would bet on VP to win this series. Maybe not this convincingly, but a sure loss.
You can expect Na´Vi to crank up practice in the upcoming weeks, including at least one bootcamp in China. They will be back... It's just a matter of time.
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
Not really about being consistent in results, should at least practice and show some interest in the matches. Or not play.
We all know they can get back to strength but it would be nice if we didn't have to have this conversation all the time.
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Vatican City State1176 Posts
I am really disappointed in navis games and especially in their picks in the 2nd game
they show how arrogant especially ppy can be
everybody can lose a game here and there
and you can get rolled - no shame in that
but if you get rolled twice with basically the same strategy....
that just shows how they think they are just better than everybody (apart of their lack of training as sb said!?!?)
in my eyes, the 2nd game was lost out of pride - because they wanted to show that they can beat the whisp strat
...thats shamefull to the fans
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28089 Posts
Good games. Na`Vi seemed really weak though
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On January 31 2013 03:35 kiy0 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 03:23 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Disappointed in Na'Vi. I get that they're trying to save their mentality during a period where they'd be expected to under-perform due to holidays ("We're, like, totally not trying, man, so it doesn't matter if we lose!") but it's disrespectful to the tens of thousands of spectators that give them their job. It's not a matter of respect towards the fans. This happens to every team that hits the top, especially in a scene that has a tournament with 50 times the prize money and reputation of any other tournament like The International. You internally don't feel the motivation to practice for these event. Also, they have been on vacation for weeks. Dendi got back just yesterday, they haven't played as a team for a long time. Remember when they came back from that "minislump" when AA started playing Nyx and Puppey a lot of Wisp after one day of practice? This is Na´Vi we're talking about. Everybody, including Puppey himself, would bet on VP to win this series. Maybe not this convincingly, but a sure loss. You can expect Na´Vi to crank up practice in the upcoming weeks, including at least one bootcamp in China. They will be back... It's just a matter of time.
I have no problem with them having a bad game, it's to be expected.
I do have a problem with them clearly not putting in much effort.
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I can assure you getting stomped twice by the same strat and quitting at 10 min in front of 45k viewers damages your reputation. Especially when you dont have a navi homer like tobi making excuses for them during the cast.
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On January 31 2013 03:33 Vankuga wrote:
Is there a western team that is consistent in their performance and results? Empire is the only one that comes in mind.
But nevertheless, VP played good, its good to see their are improving, makes thing more exciting.
I feel Dignitas is pretty consistent, they have been playing really well for quite a long time.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
Yeah, Empire and Dignitas feel like the most consistent to me too.
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
Dignitas just after being picked up were in a pretty big slump no? DHW result was pretty terrible.
After dropping Sneyking and presumably practicing more they have been looking better though.
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Eh, they only lost to Fnatic EU and Empire in DHW, its not like that is terrible. They've only been together since the end of Sep and its not like there have been many turneys since then, aside from the current ones, which they are doing quite well in.
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
Dignitas(the line-up) has been together for much longer than since September.
And Dignitas played really bad at DHW, they may have only lost to Empire and Fnatic (the only real teams they faced outside of Pulse, who also didn't play well at DHW), but they played far below their level. (And they say this as well)
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On January 31 2013 03:55 Kipsate wrote:
Yeah, Empire and Dignitas feel like the most consistent to me too.
Empire are really consistent, dignitas maybe, but imo they are 1 lvl below empire. But the thing is how good can navi really be if they stop fucking around, they trash empire whenever it matters.
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
On January 31 2013 05:04 lacho_u wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 03:55 Kipsate wrote:
Yeah, Empire and Dignitas feel like the most consistent to me too. Empire are really consistent, dignitas maybe, but imo they are 1 lvl below empire. But the thing is how good can navi really be if they stop fucking around, they trash empire whenever it matters. Except ASUS.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
On January 31 2013 05:04 lacho_u wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2013 03:55 Kipsate wrote:
Yeah, Empire and Dignitas feel like the most consistent to me too. Empire are really consistent, dignitas maybe, but imo they are 1 lvl below empire. But the thing is how good can navi really be if they stop fucking around, they trash empire whenever it matters.
they are below Empire but still consistent
Consistent=/ the best. They drop games but they always put up a really good fight.
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Spoiler:
I'm a Na'Vi fan through and through but this is a bit of a head scratcher to me.
Granted I'm following Dendi on Twitter and he just returned from vacation but is that a really good reason to throw away 3 games basically for the hell of it? (They lost yesterday as well to 3DMAXX when Dendi returned on that day.) Na'Vi CAN be consistent if they want to be, they just don't seem to really care at all about online play. You see them do such random stuff online to teams they rarely don't ever do on LAN. I don't think it's disrespect to the viewers, they just don't... care about online.
That doesn't make it right though, I want them to try even when it's online. They just won't. I mean honestly, Kunkka? Decent hero, but random as hell. (Yesterday.)
But I'm still their fan, when it matters, I know they will show up. That's all that honestly matter for me at the end of the day. I just hope they stop fucking around.
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