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On March 29 2013 03:50 eng.nayR wrote:
Why does Lifestealer have treads? I haven't seen that since people figured out he's good with phase.
Treads isn't so bad... the attack speed is strong, and of course the stats. Phase is great, but if you have good team fight, you don't really need the extra move speed.
Phase is often built with "race car" lifestealer, which is phase + drums + yasha or sny.
I personally prefer power treads over phase on lifestealer.
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On March 29 2013 03:21 asaed wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 03:16 chisuri wrote:
This game is trash, both team play so badly it is unbearable. What are you talking about? H4nni played great and so did N0tail! They both were on-point. Obviously, Puck was semi-trolling with the dagon 5 because he thought the game was over, but mouz played good too, as Black got huge. Their Mag + Alchy pick ups worked out way better than anyone thought. Of course, not saying that they didn't make huge mistakes, and some parts of the game didn't feel at all competitive... even in the late game, but the INDIVIDUAL plays in the game were pretty impressive. Pas with some game saving swaps too--very fast reaction times from most of the players. Mag played bad though... very bad  . Trixi also was pretty much useless all game.
Alchemist consecutively stunned himself multiple times, didn't buy BKB against a tons of disables and got kited around. Mag didn't hit even one good RP since forever and played like trash. Yet Fnatic struggled to end the game with a PL freefarmed and got fed. They even had a BH and at one time significantly led in term of kills. And Puck won mid big time, solo killed enemy's solo. The game was extended due to a ton of huge mistakes from both teams. They made me facepalm so many times. I enjoy close game because of both teams' excellent play, not because of silly mistakes that prevent the obviously winning team from finishing the game.
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On March 29 2013 03:53 chisuri wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 03:21 asaed wrote:On March 29 2013 03:16 chisuri wrote:
This game is trash, both team play so badly it is unbearable. What are you talking about? H4nni played great and so did N0tail! They both were on-point. Obviously, Puck was semi-trolling with the dagon 5 because he thought the game was over, but mouz played good too, as Black got huge. Their Mag + Alchy pick ups worked out way better than anyone thought. Of course, not saying that they didn't make huge mistakes, and some parts of the game didn't feel at all competitive... even in the late game, but the INDIVIDUAL plays in the game were pretty impressive. Pas with some game saving swaps too--very fast reaction times from most of the players. Mag played bad though... very bad . Trixi also was pretty much useless all game. Alchemist consecutively stunned himself multiple times, didn't buy BKB against a tons of disables and got kited around. Mag didn't hit even one good RP since forever and played like trash. Yet Fnatic struggled to end the game with a PL freefarmed and got fed. They even had a BH and at one time significantly led in term of kills. And Puck won mid big time, solo killed enemy's solo. The game was extended due to a ton of huge mistakes from both teams. They made me facepalm so many times. I enjoy close game because of both teams' excellent play, not because of silly mistakes that prevent the obviously winning team from finishing the game.
Your focusing on all the bad plays. Like I said, I think game one definitely had mistakes. There are only a few games in dota 2 that are ever mistake free. Most of these games are EXTREMELY passive. In this game, you had Fnatic making lots of individual aggressive plays and both teams generally reacting really strongly.
I agree, mag played terrible all game. Trixi too, but it's all about focus. You're focusing on the wrong things. The truth is, BKB on Alchy wouldn't have made a difference in the team fights because PL would have trashed him. He needed high damage and to rely on his team for the team fights.
Yeah, I don't think this game was the best or anything, but I think your original post saying "This game is trash" is a little over-stated.
I'm just providing a more balanced view of game 1.
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Game 2 coming down to Black and how good his morphling will be
EDIT: Okay, well, that might be game right there lol!
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Can't kill that ghoul ^^ .
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Very impressive farm for Black in the early game, not sure how he managed this much cs actually.
But Era is just playing wonderfully. It's been a long time since he has impressed me but he's definitely playing well this series.
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On March 29 2013 04:04 AwfuL_ wrote:
Very impressive farm for Black in the early game, not sure how he managed this much cs actually.
But Era is just playing wonderfully. It's been a long time since he has impressed me but he's definitely playing well this series.
Ehm, his lane was empty ?
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On March 29 2013 04:05 BlitzerSC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 04:04 AwfuL_ wrote:
Very impressive farm for Black in the early game, not sure how he managed this much cs actually.
But Era is just playing wonderfully. It's been a long time since he has impressed me but he's definitely playing well this series. Ehm, his lane was empty ?
/agree
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im really not sure how morphling is going to overcome this game. mouz just not doing well as a team.
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On March 29 2013 04:05 BlitzerSC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 04:04 AwfuL_ wrote:
Very impressive farm for Black in the early game, not sure how he managed this much cs actually.
But Era is just playing wonderfully. It's been a long time since he has impressed me but he's definitely playing well this series. Ehm, his lane was empty ?
Still means he hasn't missed any lashit for all that time.
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ahh well, 1 more bo3 for mouz today, maybe they can win one!
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On March 29 2013 04:08 AwfuL_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2013 04:05 BlitzerSC wrote:On March 29 2013 04:04 AwfuL_ wrote:
Very impressive farm for Black in the early game, not sure how he managed this much cs actually.
But Era is just playing wonderfully. It's been a long time since he has impressed me but he's definitely playing well this series. Ehm, his lane was empty ? Still means he hasn't missed any lashit for all that time.
Also means he farmed jungle?
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Mouz can't find their flow today it seems. Their overall coordination felt a bit off. gg wp Fnatic.
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
naix with good early farm welp
agi carries just can't compete with that
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On March 29 2013 04:07 crms wrote:
im really not sure how morphling is going to overcome this game. mouz just not doing well as a team.
Yeah mouz is terrible every since Kuroky left. Fata hasn't been playing very great lately either... used to be so reliable, but now it feels like the whole game is usually on Black's shoulders.
I would say though, they have a very rough group in Dreamhack!
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fnatic with naix and np is very dangerous. also era on naix somehow manages to always stay alive with imba armlet toggling.... 
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Canada1637 Posts
Quick note: We have opted to move the NTH vs Mouz match to April 1st 6pm CEST from tonight to avoid conflicting with the RDL finals. Following this match will be Dignitas vs Fnatic (9pm CEST Dignitas start up 0-1).
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