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United Kingdom24425 Posts
On April 14 2013 04:46 neurosx wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 04:44 teapoted wrote:On April 14 2013 04:43 duoform wrote:On April 14 2013 04:39 Kipsate wrote:
I feel bad for the GD studio. And the problem is, if they make a bad call the fans of that team will just jump on them.. They are like 3 hours late. They can't make any calls at this point that aren't bad, they have to just do whatever the teams want. Are you actually qqing at them ? Like it's their fault teams can't get their shit together Well it's their show, so yes, everything is their problem.
My point was that when it comes to postponing, or dealing with waiting for stand-ins. You can't really tell them no or anything because the teams before caused a 3 hours delay.
GDstudio has been having a bunch of problems. While at the same time saying everyone else runs their tournaments like shit. So yes, they deserve the criticism. Anyone who watched Dota last summer when all tournaments were bo3 knows you can't run 2 bo3 and 1 bo5 in one day and not expect problems.
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So G2 is about to start. dignitas with stand-ins.
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On April 14 2013 04:49 teapoted wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 04:46 neurosx wrote:On April 14 2013 04:44 teapoted wrote:On April 14 2013 04:43 duoform wrote:On April 14 2013 04:39 Kipsate wrote:
I feel bad for the GD studio. And the problem is, if they make a bad call the fans of that team will just jump on them.. They are like 3 hours late. They can't make any calls at this point that aren't bad, they have to just do whatever the teams want. Are you actually qqing at them ? Like it's their fault teams can't get their shit together Well it's their show, so yes, everything is their problem. My point was that when it comes to postponing, or dealing with waiting for stand-ins. You can't really tell them no or anything because the teams before caused a 3 hours delay.
Yeah and if they did take harsh decisions people would be shitting on them because they're not fair or w/e, like someone said before me there's no way for them to win
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On April 14 2013 04:48 Emporio wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 04:46 duoform wrote:On April 14 2013 04:44 teapoted wrote:On April 14 2013 04:43 duoform wrote:On April 14 2013 04:39 Kipsate wrote:
I feel bad for the GD studio. And the problem is, if they make a bad call the fans of that team will just jump on them.. They are like 3 hours late. They can't make any calls at this point that aren't bad, they have to just do whatever the teams want. It was the teams fault who produced the delay first to begin with. What was the situation with lateness? I wasn't here for the first series.
Admiral lost his internet in game 1 vs Fnatic. Nth had to search for a standin and save the game from minute 12 or something. He ended up coming back and playing it but it was like 1h of delay on that. And now this..
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
While I do agree most of the issues today were out of their control today, I think they look really dumb, to be honest. At the begigning of the tournament, they were all "rules are rules, we have to stick to them" when it came down to reschedules, defflosses and such. They were even tweeting about how awful the Dota 2 pro scene is and how everyone needs to get more professional. Then they changed their decision to give the defloss to Fnatic a couple days after the match, and now it changed to "The timelimit for a delay has passed, and they want to use more standins than we allow? As long as Liquid is fine with it, whatever...."
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On April 14 2013 04:49 teapoted wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 04:46 neurosx wrote:On April 14 2013 04:44 teapoted wrote:On April 14 2013 04:43 duoform wrote:On April 14 2013 04:39 Kipsate wrote:
I feel bad for the GD studio. And the problem is, if they make a bad call the fans of that team will just jump on them.. They are like 3 hours late. They can't make any calls at this point that aren't bad, they have to just do whatever the teams want. Are you actually qqing at them ? Like it's their fault teams can't get their shit together Well it's their show, so yes, everything is their problem. My point was that when it comes to postponing, or dealing with waiting for stand-ins. You can't really tell them no or anything because the teams before caused a 3 hours delay. GDstudio has been having a bunch of problems. While at the same time saying everyone else runs their tournaments like shit. So yes, they deserve the criticism. Anyone who watched Dota last summer when all tournaments were bo3 knows you can't run 2 bo3 and 1 bo5 in one day and not expect problems.
Well they originally planned to have it on separate days but TPL screwed them over, so they had no choice but to do it like that.
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
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On April 14 2013 04:49 Aldehyde wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 04:48 justinpal wrote:
Nah, it's GD's fault for letting the players take advantage of them. And when they don't do that, people shit on them anyway. There is no way for GDStudio to win.
If you place rules in the first place, no reasonable person will hate on you for enforcing those rules. The teams agree to these rules in the first place. It makes it so decisions are far and few between.
The situations in question are very common in DotA games. Long pauses, constant disconnects and stand-ins should be among things that require very little admin deliberation.
In short, they can win fairly easily.
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
On April 14 2013 04:54 neurosx wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 04:49 teapoted wrote:On April 14 2013 04:46 neurosx wrote:On April 14 2013 04:44 teapoted wrote:On April 14 2013 04:43 duoform wrote:On April 14 2013 04:39 Kipsate wrote:
I feel bad for the GD studio. And the problem is, if they make a bad call the fans of that team will just jump on them.. They are like 3 hours late. They can't make any calls at this point that aren't bad, they have to just do whatever the teams want. Are you actually qqing at them ? Like it's their fault teams can't get their shit together Well it's their show, so yes, everything is their problem. My point was that when it comes to postponing, or dealing with waiting for stand-ins. You can't really tell them no or anything because the teams before caused a 3 hours delay. GDstudio has been having a bunch of problems. While at the same time saying everyone else runs their tournaments like shit. So yes, they deserve the criticism. Anyone who watched Dota last summer when all tournaments were bo3 knows you can't run 2 bo3 and 1 bo5 in one day and not expect problems. Well they originally planned to have it on separate days but TPL screwed them over, so they had no choice but to do it like that. Yeah, because there was no other way to book it. It was 2 days, not even connected, that was the only option.
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Anyway, they've walked themselves into these issues. Shit happens in Dota, which is why the scene is how it is, times are flexible, playoffs are spread out. This is what happens in online play, you deal with it, or you run a shit tournament.
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On April 14 2013 04:56 teapoted wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 04:54 neurosx wrote:On April 14 2013 04:49 teapoted wrote:On April 14 2013 04:46 neurosx wrote:On April 14 2013 04:44 teapoted wrote:On April 14 2013 04:43 duoform wrote:On April 14 2013 04:39 Kipsate wrote:
I feel bad for the GD studio. And the problem is, if they make a bad call the fans of that team will just jump on them.. They are like 3 hours late. They can't make any calls at this point that aren't bad, they have to just do whatever the teams want. Are you actually qqing at them ? Like it's their fault teams can't get their shit together Well it's their show, so yes, everything is their problem. My point was that when it comes to postponing, or dealing with waiting for stand-ins. You can't really tell them no or anything because the teams before caused a 3 hours delay. GDstudio has been having a bunch of problems. While at the same time saying everyone else runs their tournaments like shit. So yes, they deserve the criticism. Anyone who watched Dota last summer when all tournaments were bo3 knows you can't run 2 bo3 and 1 bo5 in one day and not expect problems. Well they originally planned to have it on separate days but TPL screwed them over, so they had no choice but to do it like that. Yeah, because there was no other way to book it.
Yeah okay you're just here to take a shit on them, I'm done trying to speak to you. You obviously have your mind set on hating them so yeah, continue on sir
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On April 14 2013 04:56 justinpal wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 04:49 Aldehyde wrote:On April 14 2013 04:48 justinpal wrote:
Nah, it's GD's fault for letting the players take advantage of them. And when they don't do that, people shit on them anyway. There is no way for GDStudio to win. If you place rules in the first place, no reasonable person will hate on you for enforcing those rules.
...you didn't see what happened at the beginning of this tournament did you?
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
On April 14 2013 04:54 neurosx wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2013 04:49 teapoted wrote:On April 14 2013 04:46 neurosx wrote:On April 14 2013 04:44 teapoted wrote:On April 14 2013 04:43 duoform wrote:On April 14 2013 04:39 Kipsate wrote:
I feel bad for the GD studio. And the problem is, if they make a bad call the fans of that team will just jump on them.. They are like 3 hours late. They can't make any calls at this point that aren't bad, they have to just do whatever the teams want. Are you actually qqing at them ? Like it's their fault teams can't get their shit together Well it's their show, so yes, everything is their problem. My point was that when it comes to postponing, or dealing with waiting for stand-ins. You can't really tell them no or anything because the teams before caused a 3 hours delay. GDstudio has been having a bunch of problems. While at the same time saying everyone else runs their tournaments like shit. So yes, they deserve the criticism. Anyone who watched Dota last summer when all tournaments were bo3 knows you can't run 2 bo3 and 1 bo5 in one day and not expect problems. Well they originally planned to have it on separate days but TPL screwed them over, so they had no choice but to do it like that.
afaik, TPL has a hard set schedule for the whole event from the very start and have given all the participating teams a schedule for the whole thing the before the whole event started and all of them have agreed to it. I guess sticking to your own rules counts as screwing other organizers over?
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