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motbob
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motbob
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Sn0_Man
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kju
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On March 28 2013 05:17 Sn0_Man wrote: Wait so its liquid vs qpandas right now? I really want to watch that... http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Sheever not looking good for pandas, pl too farmed  | ||
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Jehct
New Zealand9115 Posts
On March 28 2013 05:17 Sn0_Man wrote: Wait so its liquid vs qpandas right now? I really want to watch that... yeah, on sheevers stream. Game 1 has been back and forth so far but it feels like qpad didn't draft an answer to PL. If na'vi v kaipi starts it'd probably be worth watching over g1. Thanks for the thread motbob ^_^ On March 28 2013 05:20 kju wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Sheever not looking good for pandas, pl too farmed it wasn't even like PL farmed super well or they got outfought, they just didn't have any way to actually win the game against a PL lol | ||
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Count9
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On March 28 2013 05:21 Jehct wrote: yeah, on sheevers stream. Game 1 has been back and forth so far but it feels like qpad didn't draft an answer to PL. If na'vi v kaipi starts it'd probably be worth watching over g1. Thanks for the thread motbob ^_^ gave up kotl pl bat >.> | ||
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AwfuL_
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Badjas
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On March 28 2013 05:27 AwfuL_ wrote: They played pretty well with the heroes they had but they basically got completely outpicked, giving up kotl pl bat like Count9 said, in return for a nyx and... a lifestealer? that hero is so overrated really. Lifestealer can be countered if he gets picked 1st or 2nd. He gets banned out plenty of times in the second banning phase. | ||
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AwfuL_
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Jehct
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On March 28 2013 05:27 AwfuL_ wrote: They played pretty well with the heroes they had but they basically got completely outpicked, giving up kotl pl bat like Count9 said, in return for a nyx and... a lifestealer? that hero is so overrated really. he really, really isn't. He's pretty much uncontested as the best fighting carry in the game lol, you just need to combo him with mag or lone druid (and push fast) against a PL On March 28 2013 05:33 AwfuL_ wrote: Yeah, I don't understand why he gets picked so often in the first 3 , esp when giving away bat. Leaves a lot of room for Bane / Beastmaster picks. bane and beastmaster just mitigate him a little, the hero will still be an incredibly hard to kill, high-damage carry with minimal farm. Honestly, you have to realise bane and beastmaster aren't any 'better' against him than they are against anyone else; they just still work, unlike everything else. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
qpad liquid game 2 is LIVE! Draft gogo! | ||
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Badjas
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fascistfromhell
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Korok is ganked almost every game by smoked supports coming from that direction. It's like teams just know Liquid won't react in time. Bulba played a fantastic Batrider, gamechanger out there. | ||
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Jehct
New Zealand9115 Posts
really feels like the draft is qpad's biggest weakness. They have some cool ideas, but the consistency and reactivity doesn't really seem to be there, pretty much the opposite of a TC draft. | ||
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duoform
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On March 28 2013 05:43 duoform wrote: Envy thinks he's funny by pausing to mock Puppey... is our scene really that childish? I missed it what actually happened? Anyway, xboct on the support NYX, oh boy. | ||
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Jehct
New Zealand9115 Posts
On March 28 2013 05:43 duoform wrote: Envy thinks he's funny by pausing to mock Puppey... is our scene really that childish? it really is envy just manned the fuck up on funnik lol | ||
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AwfuL_
Netherlands6976 Posts
On March 28 2013 05:34 Jehct wrote: he really, really isn't. He's pretty much uncontested as the best fighting carry in the game lol, you just need to combo him with mag or lone druid (and push fast) against a PL. Looks like TL agrees with you, which means I'm wrong  | ||
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Jehct
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lxanderl
United States629 Posts
greevil greedy | ||
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AwfuL_
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-e- nvm 8/0/6 | ||
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eieio
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Also this seems like a pretty brutal outdraft by TL. Score now is 3 - 18 rofl. | ||
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JohnHarr
United States375 Posts
On March 28 2013 05:56 eieio wrote: Wow, TL won bottom lane hard. Looks like QPAD's trilane vs trilane might need some work. Also this seems like a pretty brutal outdraft by TL. Score now is 3 - 18 rofl. 8-9 minutes in may I add :o | ||
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AwfuL_
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eieio
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On March 28 2013 05:57 AwfuL_ wrote: This is all 4v5 btw, TC hasn't even participated.. Yeah that just makes it worse. Bulba naix godlike at 11 minutes, score is 6-26 at 13 minutes lol. Rough second game. | ||
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Badjas
Netherlands2038 Posts
On March 28 2013 05:57 AwfuL_ wrote: This is all 4v5 btw, TC hasn't even participated.. yeah I just realized that.. then sheever zooms in on a bear with 2700 hp. | ||
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Tuke
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Lokj
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 Worst game i've seen QPanda play, some unlucky moments as well, but mostly Liquid playing really good. | ||
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Seriously though wow, if Game 1 was bad on the EU server then the game on NA was a complete stomp. Letting Liquid get KotL twice? That Tri lane second game was an embarrassment. | ||
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teapoted
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"This will be GG" when KP has 2 heroes alive at low hp. | ||
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BuLba
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duoform
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On March 28 2013 06:21 Liquid`BuLba wrote: i said this on MAAD this past week. KP has pieliedie, 1 of my favorite support players, and bone7/arise are really good dota 1 players. they are quite legit Or maybe its just Na'Vi sucking? | ||
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Windwaker
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BuLba
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Testuser
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Best game of my life. | ||
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crms
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On March 28 2013 06:24 739 wrote: Tobi's NaVi fanboyism too stronk. almost as bad as draskyl casting qpad. | ||
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clusen
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iloveoil
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Looks bad though | ||
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Sphaero
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Could have been way worse for them. | ||
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teapoted
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On March 28 2013 06:34 iloveoil wrote: Well it's a bo3 anyway.I think winning this game would mean more for KP than losing it would for Navi.. if that makes sense Looks bad though | ||
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fascistfromhell
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Pause LOL | ||
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Nyovne
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. Today's games have been fun if you're fanboying a bit :D. | ||
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pyro19
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Lifestealer + Gyro win yet another Insane Comeback (If you can even call it a comeback after Kaipi losing such a Huge Lead) | ||
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SushilS
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First time I saw a support being played like a carry... HVost playing ultra safe position 4/5 LOOOOOL | ||
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TanGeng
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That was terrible if comical.  | ||
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Testuser
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On March 28 2013 06:49 SushilS wrote: Ahahaha.... Dat game by Navi! First time I saw a support being played like a carry... HVost playing ultra safe position 4/5 LOOOOOL Which hero are you referring to? support being played like a carry, yada-yada ... | ||
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SushilS
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On March 28 2013 06:53 Testuser wrote: Which hero are you referring to? support being played like a carry, yada-yada ... Uhhh.... nyx.... Didn't you see XBOCT waiting and waiting... instead of initiating? | ||
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Testuser
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On March 28 2013 07:02 SushilS wrote: Uhhh.... nyx.... Didn't you see XBOCT waiting and waiting... instead of initiating? Haha, carries have to initiate? | ||
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SushilS
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OMFG... did you watch the game.... Hvost played a support Nyx.... zzz. + Show Spoiler + Back under the bridge. | ||
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fascistfromhell
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GO KAIPI ! | ||
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AwfuL_
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Interesting how Dendi saves his skillpoints on Tinker. | ||
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HaXxorIzed
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Clock rotation will kill him off though. | ||
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kju
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MCDayC
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that was pretty good. or not | ||
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AwfuL_
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Zozo
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Derity
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Eizo cup does too, good games so far. | ||
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HolydaKing
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Edit: LOL that rocket | ||
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Windwaker
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fascistfromhell
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That Mag is just killing it. So good. | ||
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Testuser
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You heard it here first. | ||
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Vankuga
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On March 28 2013 07:38 SKC wrote: Funn1k needs to watch some Bulldog replays. He clearly doesn't know how to entangle. Funn1k prayed to Bulldog and Bulldog gave him an important root. LOL, PUPPEY dropped his Mek. | ||
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Vankuga
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On March 28 2013 07:46 cecek wrote: So I guess Puppey was trying to drop the gem and kill it, but he missclicked dropped a Mek and died? :D Yep, DotaCinemma needs to feature that. | ||
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HaXxorIzed
Australia8434 Posts
What. I can only say I feel about this as I do about Dendi's tinker - happy to see it, but hoping this doesn't fail. | ||
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BuLba
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AwfuL_
Netherlands6976 Posts
-e- Nice edit Bulba | ||
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
€ Well they did, but Na'Vi trilane went bot at first | ||
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Vankuga
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On March 28 2013 08:15 HaXxorIzed wrote: Given XBOCT is looking for items like AC, maelstrom (for push), what items would dendi be looking to get in this situation? Only times I've ever seen doom was by Artstyle. Dendi going max dosh build. Midas on. | ||
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Hylirion
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On March 28 2013 08:10 crms wrote: i dont like dendi on heroes like doom. Dendi needs play makers not right clickers who have limited big play potential. Haha and now he's godlike | ||
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Slomo
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I wonder if Kuroky is bored playing Rubik all the time. | ||
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fascistfromhell
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If Na'Vi extend this, he'll 1v5 them pretty soon. | ||
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Daray
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any suggestions for games? | ||
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rotegirte
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On March 28 2013 08:51 Daray wrote: omnomnom time to watch the vods! any suggestions for games? Kaipi vs Navi series is quite entertaining | ||
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garlicface
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Whoops, but then they let Rubick through in the final game. | ||
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Kipsate
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also what the hell Spectre. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
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On March 29 2013 03:18 Numy wrote: What was the draft like. Really seems weird to pick spec when you have such weak lanes and the enemy has such strong lanes. Well they're losing pretty badly... maybe not if Navi keeps trading kills for no reason. | ||
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EDIT: Maybe they thought Navi would be this silly to get picked off constantly for no reason.. | ||
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mordk
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Also, the pick is really weird, but it's also true that there's no counter to late game spectre in Na'Vi right now. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On March 29 2013 03:22 Numy wrote: Yea that's why I'm wondering. This game is going exactly like the draft said it would which is really strange. So wondered if nth somehow thought it would go differently in draft because of some other reason. EDIT: Maybe they thought Navi would be this silly to get picked off constantly for no reason.. They have been for the past few minutes so that plan might not have been as stupid as you think ^_^ If they could convert these teamfight wins into some towers things might turn around for them. | ||
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garlicface
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aaaaaand then that happens. | ||
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Numy
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On March 29 2013 03:27 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: They have been for the past few minutes so that plan might not have been as stupid as you think ^_^ If they could convert these teamfight wins into some towers things might turn around for them. Haha that is true. Feels like it's more of a misplay from Navi and nth capitalizing on it really well. There's a clock and a storm yet navi instead of grouping up with their massive lead they were farming solo in places that are easy to initiate on. That's less the spec and more the storm/clock at being really good a punishing positioning mistakes though. | ||
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aintz
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that xbox wouldve lived that fight if funnik wasnt so incompetent. | ||
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Numy
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On March 29 2013 03:31 eng.nayR wrote: Na'vi was well on their way to losing this game but dendi just stood and delivered in that fight. Probably turned the game around lol. What no Navi were still in the lead, they weren't well on their way to losing. Just needed to group up and do a fight like that. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
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On March 29 2013 03:32 teapoted wrote: I swear dispersion in Dota 2 just doesn't look as dangerous as in DotA. That is just because dota 2 spectre doesn't get six slot free farm. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
still, we get a third game so no real complaints. | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
On March 29 2013 03:35 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: I mean even in Pub games, I just remember the skill being significantly more annoying.That is just because dota 2 spectre doesn't get six slot free farm. | ||
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On March 29 2013 03:32 mordk wrote: The biggest problem for NTH right now is the damage output of the spectre is too low, that's just how he works, since he got really shafted in lanes and early farm, there's a gigantic window from the midgame extending a large time into the late game in which spec just doesn't have the damage This is why I'm really confused about the pick since spec getting shafted in laning phase was almost a given based on the drafts so they had to have known that. I guess they hoped it wouldn't be as bad as it was and then clock/storm could get pickoffs to create space for spec to catch up. The clock/storm thing did work to some extent(Only reason game lasted so long) but even then it wasn't anywhere near enough | ||
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fascistfromhell
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Dendi played like a god. I don't know if he is better than Yao/Ferrari/Mushi, but he sure showed he is close in terms of talent. Also, s4 is a beast. | ||
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On March 29 2013 03:39 fascistfromhell wrote: What a game. Dendi played like a god. I don't know if he is better than Yao/Ferrari/Mushi, but he sure showed he is close in terms of talent. Also, s4 is a beast. no he didn't | ||
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crms
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*_* | ||
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Wintex
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Dendi is great. XBOCT played well. Funnik was both good and bad. Supports I didn't like as much... Clockwerk is stupid, I feel. | ||
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mordk
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He's definitely not even close . Maybe in raw talent one could say he's close, but his usual playing level is not on par with those players you mentioned. | ||
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On March 29 2013 03:48 mordk wrote: He's definitely not even close . Maybe in raw talent one could say he's close, but his usual playing level is not on par with those players you mentioned.He played pretty damn well when it mattered the most. The chinese scene recognize him as one of the best mid players in the world. I'm not saying he is better than Yao/Ferrari/Mushi. But he has the talent to compete at a high level against them IMO. But ya know, Dendi fanboys, they are blind, bla bla bla. Whatever. | ||
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. Calling this perseverance for a refresher instead of a Battlefury after a MoM is just one of his lesser calls. He didn't even consider a battlebuild. | ||
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On March 29 2013 04:14 Nyovne wrote: Tobi's casting the last 2 days has been... not good . Calling this perseverance for a refresher instead of a Battlefury after a MoM is just one of his lesser calls. He didn't even consider a battlebuild.And the camera control :/ | ||
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On March 29 2013 04:13 SFC wrote: MoM Bfury mag incoming? this is actually a standard build for dendi solo mid mag. | ||
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Na`Vi? | ||
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And how the hell did they mess that top lane up so badly. | ||
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On March 29 2013 04:22 Nyovne wrote: Lack of TP's.Tobi going quiet for 5-6 seconds while slowly drawing that circle made me laugh out loud. And how the hell did they mess that top lane up so badly. | ||
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On March 29 2013 04:24 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: It amazes me how many teams make bad calls in split push situations. I realize the margin of error here is razor thin, but it is quite comical how many teams lose racks to this when it happens practically every game with these heroes. so true. i mean i have no experience and knowledge like these teams but why are you trying to play a long game vs kotl/pl/prophet? if you dont have a huge advantage or won in 20min its gg. | ||
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On March 29 2013 04:26 Finrod1 wrote: People aren't trying to play a long game. PL/Prophet make it a long game.so true. i mean i have no experience and knowledge like these teams but why are you trying to play a long game vs kotl/pl/prophet? if you dont have a huge advantage or won in 20min its gg. | ||
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On March 29 2013 04:35 Daray wrote: I hate it when the game gets to this point against pl,np and kotl. I feel that if they split push correctly they just can't lose the game unless they do some really bad mistakes. Well they also can't win the game unless Navi makes mistakes. That is the fun part about split push. | ||
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On March 29 2013 04:36 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Well they also can't win the game unless Navi makes mistakes. That is the fun part about split push. PL's ilusion is like free units, you can keep doing slow damage into the builds. Also, too boring for me, can't handle with tobi cast. When a game went full farm and Godz is casting is a pleasure to watch, but with tobi is so annoying. | ||
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On March 29 2013 04:40 Firebolt145 wrote: I dunno why people are blaming Dendi in that fight, it was purely Bulldog's quick orchids on him. Think people are blaming him for dieing on top for nothing | ||
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On March 29 2013 04:40 Firebolt145 wrote: I dunno why people are blaming Dendi in that fight, it was purely Bulldog's quick orchids on him. Blaming Dendi for solo dying with aegis so he didn't have aegis there after he died. | ||
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On March 29 2013 04:40 Firebolt145 wrote: I dunno why people are blaming Dendi in that fight, it was purely Bulldog's quick orchids on him. The wtf dendi comments were when Dendi thought he could win a manfight with PL. He's lucky PL thought he was baiting with aegis. | ||
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On March 29 2013 04:40 pedrlz wrote: PL's ilusion is like free units, you can keep doing slow damage into the builds. Also, too boring for me, can't handle with tobi cast. When a game went full farm and Godz is casting is a pleasure to watch, but with tobi is so annoying. They can't commit to the racks unless Navi is pushing their base though. The only reason they lost their racks in the first place is because Navi failed at pushing. Now they are even farther behind yes, but that is just because they gave away their advantage earlier on due to a very ill advised push. | ||
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On March 29 2013 04:45 Vankuga wrote: This isn't Dendi's day. When he plays mag it's never his day. | ||
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Yeah i hate it that they've been picking Mag for him a lot lately... definitely not his hero and i think they've been doing much better when he's on other heroes aswell :F | ||
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On March 29 2013 04:45 teapoted wrote: I think the Admiral is due for a promotion. There is no rank higher than Admiral, so good for him. Edit: maybe Fleet Admiral Bulldog? | ||
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On March 29 2013 04:48 YoungTyTy wrote: There is no rank higher than Admiral, so good for him. Grand Admiral Bulldog aka Admiral of the nth Bulldog akaFleet Admiral Bulldog. | ||
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On March 29 2013 04:48 Yurie wrote: Liquid/Fnatic on http://www.twitch.tv/grandgrant . Thank you good sir ! | ||
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On March 29 2013 04:50 broodmann wrote: I'm not a big Dota fan but I really enjoyed that game. Whats the point in having a windrunner btw? Shackleshot and a hard to kill support item carrier, force staff/mek etc. Also good anti push with powershot. | ||
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On March 29 2013 04:50 broodmann wrote: I'm not a big Dota fan but I really enjoyed that game. Whats the point in having a windrunner btw? Shackles is a good stun (more when you latch into two), hard to kill, do good dps with the right items. | ||
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On March 29 2013 04:48 YoungTyTy wrote: There is no rank higher than Admiral, so good for him. Edit: maybe Fleet Admiral Bulldog? Isn't "General" higher, than Admiral? At least here in germany it's like that iirc, but then again there's nothing similar to admiral. Was long time ago I knew that. But he played pretty boss, yea. | ||
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On March 29 2013 04:50 Yurie wrote: Shackleshot and a hard to kill support item carrier, force staff/mek etc. Also good anti push with powershot. also scales fairly ok into lategame in terms of damage | ||
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On March 29 2013 04:53 Talron wrote: Isn't "General" higher, than Admiral? At least here in germany it's like that iirc, but then again there's nothing similar to admiral. Was long time ago I knew that. But he played pretty boss, yea. I thought Admiral is more of a Navy term eg. Admiral of a fleet. Similar standing to a General of an Army. | ||
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On March 29 2013 04:50 broodmann wrote: I'm not a big Dota fan but I really enjoyed that game. Whats the point in having a windrunner btw? WR is overall an extremely versatile hero, and also requires few items to be effective at a given role. This means she can solo a hard lane and even win it (played by a good enough player), she can support a trilane, just pull for a carry or roam the map for ganks, all very effectively. In the late game she has powerful anti-push that fits perfectly into a split push type of lineup, considering you will have at all times 1 or 2 heroes that aren't immediately cooperating with defense, as was the case with NTH's lineup in this game. In a draft, she's often a strong mid draft pick solely for the fact that she says so little about what your draft is about, overall a sort of jack of all trades hero, she's good at everything and can fit into almost any type of lineup, but excels at pretty much nothing. | ||
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On March 29 2013 04:53 Talron wrote: Isn't "General" higher, than Admiral? At least here in germany it's like that iirc, but then again there's nothing similar to admiral. Was long time ago I knew that. But he played pretty boss, yea. General and Admiral have the same pay grade in America (O-10). Basically they're the same rank, but the Navy has admirals whereas the other three branches have Generals. Just different names for the same thing. On March 29 2013 04:56 JohnHarr wrote: The top three positions in the Navy(at least the U.S. Navy) are Rear Admiral, then Admiral, and finally Fleet Admiral. This isn't true. Fleet admiral hasn't been used in a very long time (like WW2) and you're missing Vice Admiral. Nobody has been a five star in any branch of the US military in a long time. | ||
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On March 29 2013 04:56 JohnHarr wrote: No one wants to be the Rear Admiral.The top three positions in the Navy(at least the U.S. Navy) are Rear Admiral, then Admiral, and finally Fleet Admiral. | ||
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On March 29 2013 04:55 Numy wrote: I thought Admiral is more of a Navy term eg. Admiral of a fleet. Similar standing to a General of an Army. Thats how it is in the Canadian Military (which is a take on the British, if I recall) - Admiral and General are the same rank, just different element. There is nothing higher than those, other than appointments/titles (which isnt really ranks) | ||
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On March 29 2013 04:57 Talron wrote: And people were giving them a bunch of crap for putting Nth in that group.Just realized the top4 in this EIZO cup are the same 4 invitees of G-1 phase2. | ||
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On March 29 2013 04:59 Bumblebee wrote: grant and bdiz, confrimed best duo I like it more than Tobi at least. Surprisingly good. | ||
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On March 29 2013 05:39 LaiShin wrote: Why did trixi upgrade his basher on his bear....Pretty sure he can't use abyssal blade from his bear? Its still a lot of +damage if he is slot constrained. Plus his hero can use it in teamfights then give it to the bear (if his micro is that good) | ||
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On March 29 2013 05:42 neurosx wrote: Sooooooo can anyone tell me why Trixi won't build mkb ? he's spending like twice the time he'd need to kill Luna-.- He generally kills him during Hex so he doesn't really need MKB. | ||
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On March 29 2013 05:42 neurosx wrote: Sooooooo can anyone tell me why Trixi won't build mkb ? he's spending like twice the time he'd need to kill Luna-.- trixi forgot thiss item exists | ||
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On March 29 2013 06:51 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Only 11 in Sweden. Would be late for a CIS team but 11 isn't a big deal.Already late in Europe though. Wonder if they'll actually be played tonight. | ||
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On March 29 2013 06:56 teapoted wrote: Only 11 in Sweden. Would be late for a CIS team but 11 isn't a big deal. For top performance? not ideal... but it's their call sounds like it is going through. | ||
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On March 29 2013 07:08 SFC wrote: Thats a lot of push, wonder if there will be a BM last pick edit: noooope Thought the same. But looks my prediction was doomed to fail. :x | ||
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On March 29 2013 07:11 Talron wrote: Thought the same. But looks my prediction was doomed to fail. :x Yeah, thought they might want to go full out push. Pretty amazing H4nn1 called the Doom, though I suppose they scrim and play against Nth so he has a better idea of what they like to run | ||
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On March 29 2013 07:14 SFC wrote: Yeah, thought they might want to go full out push. Pretty amazing H4nn1 called the Doom, though I suppose they scrim and play against Nth so he has a better idea of what they like to run They ran it earlier today, so seems to be something they like. They had chen that time as well, so they seem to think doom is good in push strats. | ||
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On March 29 2013 07:25 Yurie wrote: They ran it earlier today, so seems to be something they like. They had chen that time as well, so they seem to think doom is good in push strats. Ahh okay I didn't see that game. I guess aura from chen creeps plus doom devour and early vlads would be pretty good for pushing. | ||
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On March 29 2013 07:37 eqez wrote: wtf how is nth winning this? Mek+hand of god pretty good as said above. e. oh yeah, jugger has healing too.. | ||
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Loda didn't use Doom and was out of mana. He really can't wait that much while getting hit by PL, could have changed the fight. | ||
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On March 29 2013 07:37 eqez wrote: wtf how is nth winning this? stronger midgame draft theyre gonna drop off a cliff if they dont make things happen soon though On March 29 2013 07:40 SKC wrote: I really feel like this lineup had potential if Nth hadn't played so poorly early game. Those couple of failed ganks really hurt them. Loda didn't use Doom and was out of mana. He really can't wait that much while getting hit by PL, could have changed the fight. that was a bad move, he wanted to force plays so his teammates could do something but ended up getting burnt hard and they couldnt push anymore :/ | ||
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On March 29 2013 07:40 SKC wrote: I really feel like this lineup had potential if Nth hadn't played so poorly early game. Those couple of failed ganks really hurt them. Loda didn't use Doom and was out of mana. He really can't wait that much while getting hit by PL, could have changed the fight. It does have a lot of potential. Watch iG vs. Chainstack where it's pretty much the same lineup except with an invoker over doom. | ||
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On March 29 2013 07:43 Itsmedudeman wrote: It does have a lot of potential. Watch iG vs. Chainstack where it's pretty much the same lineup except with an invoker over doom. It really does as we can see. Jugger + Chen, etc. push isn't really new, and I felt Doom actually worked well it with. iG also is just plain better than Chainstack, Nth and TL are pretty much on the same level. | ||
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On March 29 2013 07:46 SKC wrote: It really does as we can see. Jugger + Chen, etc. push isn't really new, and I felt Doom actually worked well it with. iG also is just plain better than Chainstack, Nth and TL are pretty much on the same level. Doesn't doom prevent PL from making illusions? That sounds like an excellent reason to pick him regardless. | ||
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On March 29 2013 07:46 SKC wrote: It really does as we can see. Jugger + Chen, etc. push isn't really new, and I felt Doom actually worked well it with. iG also is just plain better than Chainstack, Nth and TL are pretty much on the same level. Wasn't it complexity that ran it prior to TI2? A lot of omni in that as well. | ||
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On March 29 2013 07:52 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Doesn't doom prevent PL from making illusions? That sounds like an excellent reason to pick him regardless. You have to hit the right PL though, I think he only managed to use doom on PL on that last fight, but I wasn't watching that closely. PL illusions should also keep replicating by themselfs as well. | ||
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On March 29 2013 07:53 BurningSera wrote: LOL GG i am speechless to these two teams. Not gonna talk about nth but why do i keep seeing western teams hated heart on PL? to be fair once he got the butterfly he solo'd both Jugg and LD w/bear and that's with omnislash so appearently butterfly is a better choice if you're looking to man up | ||
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Although yeah, after Nth's failed early-game with a pushing line-up Liquid really should have won. Well played Nth. People can talk about throws all day, but would every team have come back given the chances Nth got? Doubt it. | ||
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On March 29 2013 07:59 Appendix wrote: Probably, the Bear must have dealt more damage to the ancient than the rest of the team combined.Should clock have ulted the bear instead of the two heroes in the last fight? s4 was dead and the bear was by far the biggest damage dealer onto the ancient. But presumably he had 2 bears, so you'd have to focus AB. | ||
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On March 29 2013 07:56 hooahah wrote: to be fair once he got the butterfly he solo'd both Jugg and LD w/bear and that's with omnislash so appearently butterfly is a better choice if you're looking to man up 1400hp PL with that economy, i dont think there is an excuse behind that. Heart is so crucial on PL, once you got it you almost render all the oppo supports useless in team fight. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On March 29 2013 08:00 SKC wrote: I think if we want to nitpick TL made bigger mistakes than a few little details on that last fight. I fcking want TL to win so badly and yes they made bigger/more mistakes than nth in that game. DS still in the pool D: | ||
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hooahah
3752 Posts
On March 29 2013 08:00 BurningSera wrote: 1400hp PL with that economy, i dont think there is an excuse behind that. Heart is so crucial on PL, once you got it you almost render all the oppo supports useless in team fight. yeah, I know. Heart is better for laying siege, where you can batter the other team with a constant stream of illusions - but TC had to do something, and he had to do it fast. He knew Jugg/LD didn't have MKB so he went for the butterfly and manned up - I'm pretty sure that if had gotten the heart he would've died there pretty quickly in the 1vs2. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
Quite fitting for the Nordic Pirates. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Furthermore, as he knew that Doom would render him completely useless and because PL is the best splitpusher in the game, he really shouldn't have been fighting in the first place. | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
On March 29 2013 08:04 SKC wrote: They're called no tidehunter. I think that's what makes it most fitting.Mr. PirateLord! Quite fitting for the Nordic Pirates. | ||
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eng.nayR
United States468 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
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SFC
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hooahah
3752 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On March 29 2013 08:06 Shikyo wrote: actually heart is better for teamfights and fighting heroes in general whereas butterfly is better for pushing - for pushing you just want dps whereas for battling you want your illusions to survive. They become really difficult to kill with the heart, that's the main strenght. PL really isn't all that scary in teamfights if a single AoE spell can kill all of his illusions as was the case here. Furthermore, as he knew that Doom would render him completely useless and because PL is the best splitpusher in the game, he really shouldn't have been fighting in the first place. Are you the real Shikyo??? Someone please report shikyo account is stolen/hacked!!xD and ya pretty much like that. The thing is very simple, you won't be able to keep making dps output in team fight with that 1400hp, one round of spells focusing down from nth and he is done. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
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SFC
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crms
United States11933 Posts
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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Skyline026
Netherlands1129 Posts
On March 29 2013 08:32 crms wrote: oh liquid.. so brilliant in some games, so... umm.. yeah.. in others. This... Very frustrating indeed. Liquid has a pretty big gap between good and bad games. When they are good they are great, when they are bad theyre terrible. | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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NeoSlicerZ
Ireland470 Posts
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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Derity
Germany2952 Posts
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duoform
Spain5180 Posts
"He wants to be the the tanky..." what is that supposed to mean? It's like the third time he says it. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On March 29 2013 08:37 duoform wrote: Is H4nn1 speaking English or HoNish? "He wants to be the the tanky..." what is that supposed to mean? It's like the third time he says it. It's supposed to mean he wants to be the tank. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
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Derity
Germany2952 Posts
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Grettin
42381 Posts
happy b-day crms | ||
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duoform
Spain5180 Posts
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NeoSlicerZ
Ireland470 Posts
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BallinWitStalin
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SFC
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On March 29 2013 08:43 Grettin wrote: Just not enough. happy b-day crms Thanks, I was hoping liquid would win a tourney for me, o well. | ||
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NeoSlicerZ
Ireland470 Posts
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fascistfromhell
1689 Posts
Kotl, Lesh, Venge, Gyro and Mag. Just turtle a bit and counter-attack. | ||
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Grettin
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KillForFood
Georgia788 Posts
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NeoSlicerZ
Ireland470 Posts
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AwfuL_
Netherlands6976 Posts
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On March 29 2013 08:49 fascistfromhell wrote: Why liquid defends so poorly with THAT line-up? Holy shit. Kotl, Lesh, Venge, Gyro and Mag. Just turtle a bit and counter-attack. Their lategame isn't exactly much better, if NTH take over the map, outfarm them and push out with Aegis and Cheese they would probally take the game. | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
but still a liquid fan TL HWAITING | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
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crms
United States11933 Posts
TL will be back! :D~ | ||
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Talron
Germany7651 Posts
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
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fascistfromhell
1689 Posts
Liquid needs to refine their defensive game imo. Liquid fighting! | ||
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pyro19
6575 Posts
That first game..Heartbreaking to see TC Carry so hardcore and then lose ...Windrunner really has no Place in todays Metagame...There are much better heroes in almost everything she does | ||
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Derity
Germany2952 Posts
On March 29 2013 08:49 fascistfromhell wrote: Why liquid defends so poorly with THAT line-up? Holy shit. Kotl, Lesh, Venge, Gyro and Mag. Just turtle a bit and counter-attack. this is no liquid lineup.... | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
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fascistfromhell
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
On March 29 2013 08:58 fascistfromhell wrote: Are you joking? Akke is one of the highest regarded supports in the game and has been for several years.And just to be fair, Akke played pretty well. Very underrated support in the scene. I've never heard anyone say anything but praise about Akke, especially his Chen play. Underrated he is not. | ||
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fascistfromhell
1689 Posts
On March 29 2013 09:00 teapoted wrote: Are you joking? Akke is one of the highest regarded supports in the game and has been for several years. I've never heard anyone say anything but praise about Akke, especially his Chen play. I know, maybe I expressed myself wrong. People often talk more about Loda and S4 but I think Akke is their most important player. His Chen was stellar tonight. | ||
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
TL hwaiting.... | ||
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AwfuL_
Netherlands6976 Posts
But nth's 5man Chen-centered drafts are just really smart and they execute them very well, making them extremely hard to play around. Teams will either need to start banning out Chen, draft something that completely stomps their early game, or pick a ridiculous teamfight lineup themselves. Used to really dislike this team for their boring ass playstyle but they're slowly winning me over ever since S4 started drafting. Still not liking Bulldog's approach to the game though. | ||
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hooahah
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
Nth was better across the board, and deserved to win, even if I am still stunned TL lost game 1 in final. Think that broke TLs confidence, as they were on the verge on being overconfident due to a awesome start in game 1, with clutch executions. At least that is how I see it. Second place is still pretty awesome and there were many good teams playing extremely well in this tournament. | ||
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asaed
United States1412 Posts
Honestly, I still think you HAVE to ban Chen against nth! I would love to see stats of nth win% with Chen and without. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14899 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Yurie
11977 Posts
On March 29 2013 10:07 asaed wrote: Even though it was a 2-0, the games were insanely close. Honestly, I still think you HAVE to ban Chen against nth! I would love to see stats of nth win% with Chen and without. http://dota-academy.com/team/264/ Chen picked 23 times, won 20. For 0.87 win rate. In total they are 109 games, 76-33. For 0.697 win rate. Removing the chen games results in 86 games with stats 56-30. For 0.65 win rate. Or a drop of 4-5% win rate. Not all that major considering the smallish sample size. | ||
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
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GranDGranT
Sri Lanka2141 Posts
Also Thanks to Bdiz and Dee for re-kindling my passion for casting | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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fascistfromhell
1689 Posts
On March 29 2013 23:44 GranDGranT wrote: Thanks everyone who watched my stream, I know it isnt for everyone. Also Thanks to Bdiz and Dee for re-kindling my passion for casting I was watching the first round on your stream, but my internet sucks, so I was lagging a lot. If you provide us 480p ou 720p, I would watch again. Ty. | ||
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SushilS
2115 Posts
TL fighting... was depresed today initially... Am starting to really root for you guys... just play the same... love you guys! Maybe a Jakiro pick up rather than windrunner might have been better? | ||
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GranDGranT
Sri Lanka2141 Posts
On March 30 2013 01:53 fascistfromhell wrote: I was watching the first round on your stream, but my internet sucks, so I was lagging a lot. If you provide us 480p ou 720p, I would watch again. Ty. I dont have the option unless I apply and i got denied | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34498 Posts
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GranDGranT
Sri Lanka2141 Posts
But I do plan to cast more with Bdiz so yah! | ||
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phANT1m
South Africa535 Posts
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