I've never heard anyone even attempt that "premiere to newbies" style of casting in dota, I don't think it's doable to be honest. The sheer volume of information that they'd have to go through would make the cast pretty much unlistenable for anyone but the new viewer, which is not what happens in, say, SC2 where you don't have to explain a dozen mechanics and interactions for every goddamn hero, spell, item and strategy.
Also, keep in mind that the English casters aren't exactly the creme of the crop when it comes to dota2 casters, as the level of play in this league is completely understandably rather poor. I didn't watch the English stream so I don't know what they were actually talking about but the good casters will do their best to analyze a draft as it happens, as well as during the actual game.
Frankly I'd say that you're shit out of luck if you want to watch dota2 without playing it at least a little bit. It's just the nature of the game.
There are a lot of youtube videos that introduce players to dota 2. Expecting it from a tournament with a lot of money at stack and high level play is a bit strange.
I saw a little bit of one of these korean games last night and it consisted of the most manly spiritbreaker on earth. I think the kills ended up like 30-4 for the teams. Was quite a stomp but it was entertaining, the radiant team had some nice plays and good teamwork.
someone who watched all of the games, what was the general reception? are these teams of similar skill to t3-t2 west teams? Or, better?
On July 08 2013 00:08 crms wrote: I saw a little bit of one of these korean games last night and it consisted of the most manly spiritbreaker on earth. I think the kills ended up like 30-4 for the teams. Was quite a stomp but it was entertaining, the radiant team had some nice plays and good teamwork.
someone who watched all of the games, what was the general reception? are these teams of similar skill to t3-t2 west teams? Or, better?
I'd say they are on par with those teams in terms of how well they execute what they try to execute, but decision making and drafting are definitely poor in comparison.
also Namste, if you want, as well as anyone else wanted to learn dota from the starter league, there is nothing stopping TL as a group from making a group skype call and discussing the game as it happens. if youguys would be interested in that to help learn dota, i'd be more than willing to buy some caffeine and stay up to help ^_^
On July 08 2013 00:08 crms wrote: I saw a little bit of one of these korean games last night and it consisted of the most manly spiritbreaker on earth. I think the kills ended up like 30-4 for the teams. Was quite a stomp but it was entertaining, the radiant team had some nice plays and good teamwork.
someone who watched all of the games, what was the general reception? are these teams of similar skill to t3-t2 west teams? Or, better?
I'm not even sure where to rank them yet. I've watched about half of the games so far, and there seems to be a huge skill gap between the teams in this event. Some of the better teams are in that T3-T2 western team range, but some of the worse teams in this event are honestly like... USE top page pubstars, lol. I saw one game where the top CS in the game on dire was like... 36 and 13minutes in or something, while Radiant had 3 people at a respectable 80-100.
It's really entertaining to watch, since you get to see the koreans find their own playstyle, adapt to the game, and get better (not to mention I love the korean casting, reminds me of BW casts), but the level of play is definitely below what we see in Alienware cup, etc.
Spiritbreaker game was funny.
edit: Also, I'm pretty sad that some guy came into this thread, completely new to Dota, expressed his opinion, and got completely flamed for it, lol. Pretty nasty reception for someone new to the Dota community.
USE top page pubstars are way better than some of the players we saw in some of these games. The skill gap between some of the players at the top (Febby, QO, March) compared with those at the bottom was just absurd
On July 08 2013 03:15 iNteLStyLe wrote: USE top page pubstars are way better than some of the players we saw in some of these games. The skill gap between some of the players at the top (Febby, QO, March) compared with those at the bottom was just absurd
Yeah, I suppose it was a bad comparison. I just meant to say they were pretty bad :D
No fxo would not beat qpad. Dont know what the current roster looks like, but the previous roster with select would probably still be a stretch. Qpad players just have too much experience for fxo atm Edit. 1000 posts fuck yeah
On July 09 2013 01:47 dellesh1ruH wrote: I'm very happy to see Dota 2 arrive in Korea. Give them some time, and I'm sure with dedication and practice, they gonna make a high skill level.
Im hoping for the koreans to develop a distinct playstyle. So far, they been playing extremely aggressive dota if the ro8 games are anything to base off of.
On July 09 2013 01:47 dellesh1ruH wrote: I'm very happy to see Dota 2 arrive in Korea. Give them some time, and I'm sure with dedication and practice, they gonna make a high skill level.
Im hoping for the koreans to develop a distinct playstyle. So far, they been playing extremely aggressive dota if the ro8 games are anything to base off of.
well if BW/SC2 (don't know enough bout LoL) is any indication, Koreans always have a distinct playstyle. iloveoov was a coach just dedicated to creating strats for fantasy in the OSL at a point and we all saw how that worked out against stork in the Korean Air OSL. I can't imagine that not happening in DotA2 if Koreans get serious. I expect some strats to completely revolutionize the game... Or at least I hope... we'll see
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