On August 10 2013 11:44 gLhF.Revere wrote: If it's fountain hooks aren't gimmicky, could someone explain to me what Tongfu could've done to win?
To sum it up short, they were scared shit less to do anything to capitalize when Pudge missed his hooks.
It was Tungfu's game to win or lose, Na'Vi the experience beasts that they are, were able to play patiently and come out on top in the end due to Tongfu's passive play.
Thanks for the non-answer. Pudge misses hook. And Na'Vi is 2 screens away from where Dendi just was sent back from. What can Tongfu do?
Ban pudge, ban chen, have one of there supports focused on eating the fountain hook in a team fight, blocking pudge LOS with creeps or gargoyles. NaVi created a tactic and people are butthurt that there isn't some pre-created tactic to counter it. Time will tell if it is truely OP or not.
you know you've lost when your argument for how to counter-play the exploit abuse is to ban the heroes that are needed to do it
On August 10 2013 11:55 JerKy wrote: pudge hook is a skill shot, you dont land it 100 percent of the time why is this still being argued about ._.
-> Na'vi already used it in other tournies like DreamHack Winter. -> Only Na'vi uses it. -> Were behind in game and won it thanks to a late doom on chen(or could had target pudge)
If it was broken, or totally op, more teams would use it, even na'vi would use it more, it's not like dendi hates pudge.
Tongfu were dealing with it pretty well, until that rosh.
I tend to be towards the bottom, you play to win, I mean how many cheese outs have we seen in major SC2 games? Tons
I have yet to see any 'creative special strategies' in SC2 where if you can time 2 abilities well you one shot the enemy army.
Every argument that 'this is hard' are ridiculous. It's not hard for the best players in the world since they do this every day all the time.
Then why isn't pudge banned EVERY game? Because he sucks as a hero... He was relevant back like in TI1... Everyone goes crazy when pudge is picked because he isn't a very viable hero in this game right now...
I tend to be towards the bottom, you play to win, I mean how many cheese outs have we seen in major SC2 games? Tons
I have yet to see any 'creative special strategies' in SC2 where if you can time 2 abilities well you one shot the enemy army.
Every argument that 'this is hard' are ridiculous. It's not hard for the best players in the world since they do this every day all the time.
Then why isn't pudge banned EVERY game? Because he sucks as a hero... He was relevant back like in TI1... Everyone goes crazy when pudge is picked because he isn't a very viable hero in this game right now...
On August 10 2013 11:44 gLhF.Revere wrote: If it's fountain hooks aren't gimmicky, could someone explain to me what Tongfu could've done to win?
To sum it up short, they were scared shit less to do anything to capitalize when Pudge missed his hooks.
It was Tungfu's game to win or lose, Na'Vi the experience beasts that they are, were able to play patiently and come out on top in the end due to Tongfu's passive play.
Thanks for the non-answer. Pudge misses hook. And Na'Vi is 2 screens away from where Dendi just was sent back from. What can Tongfu do?
Ban pudge, ban chen, have one of there supports focused on eating the fountain hook in a team fight, blocking pudge LOS with creeps or gargoyles. NaVi created a tactic and people are butthurt that there isn't some pre-created tactic to counter it. Time will tell if it is truely OP or not.
you know you've lost when your argument for how to counter-play the exploit abuse is to ban the heroes that are needed to do it
lol... so bans = insta OP so we should take out of the game?
On August 10 2013 11:44 gLhF.Revere wrote: If it's fountain hooks aren't gimmicky, could someone explain to me what Tongfu could've done to win?
To sum it up short, they were scared shit less to do anything to capitalize when Pudge missed his hooks.
It was Tungfu's game to win or lose, Na'Vi the experience beasts that they are, were able to play patiently and come out on top in the end due to Tongfu's passive play.
Thanks for the non-answer. Pudge misses hook. And Na'Vi is 2 screens away from where Dendi just was sent back from. What can Tongfu do?
Ban pudge, ban chen, have one of there supports focused on eating the fountain hook in a team fight, blocking pudge LOS with creeps or gargoyles. NaVi created a tactic and people are butthurt that there isn't some pre-created tactic to counter it. Time will tell if it is truely OP or not.
you know you've lost when your argument for how to counter-play the exploit abuse is to ban the heroes that are needed to do it
LOS with gargoyles or creeps, pushing advantage on missed hooks (he missed twice as many hooks as he hit)
I tend to be towards the bottom, you play to win, I mean how many cheese outs have we seen in major SC2 games? Tons
I have yet to see any 'creative special strategies' in SC2 where if you can time 2 abilities well you one shot the enemy army.
Every argument that 'this is hard' are ridiculous. It's not hard for the best players in the world since they do this every day all the time.
Then why isn't pudge banned EVERY game? Because he sucks as a hero... He was relevant back like in TI1... Everyone goes crazy when pudge is picked because he isn't a very viable hero in this game right now...
He has quite good win ratio this TI?
so does ursa and no one plays it cept TL rofl what a dumb argument
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