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Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
August 10 2013 02:49 GMT
#5841
Glebanya ‏@Funn1kDota 5m
U cant stop russian matchmaking
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
August 10 2013 02:50 GMT
#5842
On August 10 2013 11:48 YoucriedWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 11:46 dtz wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:44 Merfyn wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:43 HotGlueGun wrote:
Tongfu bring shame to China. What is the correct response to a team going for fountain hooks that aggressively?


Engage on failed hooks, 4v5.


Perhaps. But very hard to do cos the only hero around is chen and maybe wr and they are hook + force staff range away ( 1500++).

If Tongfu had something like clock maybe they could.

Hoping for meepo notail for a day of full chaos.

And as i said that Maelk dashed my hopes.

Units block hook. Visage birds, necrobook etc


Yea units can block hooks.What did that has to do with I said lol.

All i said was that immediately engaging after failed hooks were not that easy even if that was what they should do.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 02:50:15
August 10 2013 02:50 GMT
#5843
Rooting for Fnatic!

Hontrash ftw =D

Also want to see a Meepo eventually
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 02:51:09
August 10 2013 02:50 GMT
#5844
On August 10 2013 11:47 anonymitylol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 11:46 TanKLoveR wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:43 trinxified wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:42 TanKLoveR wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:40 Fruscainte wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:38 TanKLoveR wrote:
Ugh you people seriously are ....

You're all about gimicky bs, "OPA DENDI OPA XD!!" like this hook or freaking Ursa and meepo ugh. What a ton of crap, that was a disgusting game and Na'Vi should be ashamed. But nope, everyone stood and screamed and clapped at such a shameful display, there was no skill, no team play just fucking luck. I hope Alliance destroys these people tomorrow, I look forward to it.


OH NO PEOPLE ARE PLAYING TO WIN IN A 1.4 MILLION DOLLAR FIRST PRIZE TOURNAMENT

A BLOO BLOO BLOO

:|

It's not even about Na'Vi doing anything they can to win even if its completely retarded and turned me off from supporting them, it's the fact that people are celebrating this kind of BS. That "victory" was 100% luck, Na'Vi displayed NO skill in that match.


You think Navi cares that you don't support them anymore when they can win 1.4 million?

No they don't give a shit, and I don't give a shit about them now. That was complete crap, it's literally the same as people celebrating and cheering for Idra swearing, calling people names and early GGing. People around here are little kids, so easily pleased by shitty behavior.


but when [A] picks kotl pl it's all hunky-dory for mr. dedicated [A] fan!

double standards 4ever



The difference is that you have to outplay your opponents first to get into a position to abuse PL/Kotl. With fountain hooking, you can be losing the game and hit maybe 2-3 key ones and turn the entire game around.


I can almost guarantee from a player's perspective you'd call bullshit if you lost to it just in a pub game, let alone in a 2 million dollar tournament.
kaztah
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1221 Posts
August 10 2013 02:50 GMT
#5845
I'm looking forward to more dota, but I have no idea how the next games can possibly live up to the previous one
I speak fluent sarcasm.
lightsentry
Profile Joined May 2011
413 Posts
August 10 2013 02:50 GMT
#5846
On August 10 2013 11:49 rob.au wrote:
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On August 10 2013 11:48 nojok wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:47 CAPSLOCKED wrote:
TOB +D

Bye v1lat, I'm switching back to English casters


bye english casters, switchin to mute

Haven't heard english casters all tournament except when they leak in through the chinese casters mics and It's been the best dota 2 casting yet!
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 02:51:32
August 10 2013 02:50 GMT
#5847
On August 10 2013 11:48 KadaverBB wrote:
Oh oh. fnatic has chen, better ban that pudge guys

notail pudge is legit too

just share hero control and let him handle the chen and the pudge imo

really though pretty sure fnatic have played pudge before. maybe they can make these new viewers nightmares come true
On August 10 2013 11:50 superstartran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 11:47 anonymitylol wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:46 TanKLoveR wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:43 trinxified wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:42 TanKLoveR wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:40 Fruscainte wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:38 TanKLoveR wrote:
Ugh you people seriously are ....

You're all about gimicky bs, "OPA DENDI OPA XD!!" like this hook or freaking Ursa and meepo ugh. What a ton of crap, that was a disgusting game and Na'Vi should be ashamed. But nope, everyone stood and screamed and clapped at such a shameful display, there was no skill, no team play just fucking luck. I hope Alliance destroys these people tomorrow, I look forward to it.


OH NO PEOPLE ARE PLAYING TO WIN IN A 1.4 MILLION DOLLAR FIRST PRIZE TOURNAMENT

A BLOO BLOO BLOO

:|

It's not even about Na'Vi doing anything they can to win even if its completely retarded and turned me off from supporting them, it's the fact that people are celebrating this kind of BS. That "victory" was 100% luck, Na'Vi displayed NO skill in that match.


You think Navi cares that you don't support them anymore when they can win 1.4 million?

No they don't give a shit, and I don't give a shit about them now. That was complete crap, it's literally the same as people celebrating and cheering for Idra swearing, calling people names and early GGing. People around here are little kids, so easily pleased by shitty behavior.


but when [A] picks kotl pl it's all hunky-dory for mr. dedicated [A] fan!

double standards 4ever



The difference is that you have to outplay your opponents first to get into a position to abuse PL/Kotl. With fountain hooking, you can be losing the game and hit maybe 2-3 key ones and turn the entire game around.

hows that different from edging out a teamfight with kotl pl and then snowballing that into a decisive advantage and winning (ie. every close/entertaining successful kotl pl game ever)
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
August 10 2013 02:50 GMT
#5848
Sry Fnatic, Orange is going to win this.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
August 10 2013 02:50 GMT
#5849
Yo can someone tell me WTH is Rat Doto?
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
August 10 2013 02:50 GMT
#5850
HONTRASH PRIDE
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
August 10 2013 02:50 GMT
#5851
On August 10 2013 11:49 Darpa wrote:
This thread is almost as bad as when Hyperdub 2 raxed TLO out of GSL!


Ah I remember that... After an epic game 1 it all went bonkers.
Dear Sixsmith...
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
August 10 2013 02:50 GMT
#5852
On August 10 2013 11:48 YoucriedWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 11:46 dtz wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:44 Merfyn wrote:
On August 10 2013 11:43 HotGlueGun wrote:
Tongfu bring shame to China. What is the correct response to a team going for fountain hooks that aggressively?


Engage on failed hooks, 4v5.


Perhaps. But very hard to do cos the only hero around is chen and maybe wr and they are hook + force staff range away ( 1500++).

If Tongfu had something like clock maybe they could.

Hoping for meepo notail for a day of full chaos.

And as i said that Maelk dashed my hopes.

Units block hook. Visage birds, necrobook etc

Or HotD on Gyro even. It's so easy to deal with, but TongFu choked and choked HARD. Pudge is dead weight if he doesn't have a phenomenal start, so by all accounts they could've just kept the pressure up and not started hiding for a half hour while Xboct had total freefarm.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
August 10 2013 02:50 GMT
#5853
On August 10 2013 11:50 trinxified wrote:
Yo can someone tell me WTH is Rat Doto?


dodge fights, splitpush
Shadowpostin
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany798 Posts
August 10 2013 02:50 GMT
#5854
this thread is fantastic

I don't think I've seen people this mad ever since the last time bisu lost to shine
allow me to demonstrate the skill of shaolin
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
August 10 2013 02:50 GMT
#5855
On August 10 2013 11:48 PUre.nINE wrote:
Psh only newbie dota players would complain about this outcome.

For one it's definitely Valve's or Icefrog's problem. Na'vi is a professional team on the line to win hundreds of thousands of dollars, of course they'll do whatever is necessary.

There's other game mechanics that are unintended too. Ursa's Fury Swipes on Rosh, Blink dagger ban on VS, Pudge, Weaver time lapse buyback, Fissure creep block, Tiny's toss double avalanche dmg (not sure if Dota 2 still has it), Kunkka tidebringer crit, Clockwerk's battery assault preventing spell casts, Night Stalker ult extending night, CK wisp tether instant stun, etc etc. They're just remnants from Warcraft 3's game engine.

If you actually think Na'vi "stole" the win, you're crazy. You think "Pudge Chen" will actually work well again? Fuck no. Tongfu just got mind fucked and played too defensively after the first few, and let Alchemist farm up way too much. Any time Dendi missed a hook they could have simply pushed in 5v4, but no, they just sit back and farm.


this is so true .. the alchemist was the cream in the crop of na'vi and TF failed to punish him .. TF also doesnt have carries that will match alche in late game
this is a quote
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
August 10 2013 02:50 GMT
#5856
And as a last nail on the coffin I'll remind to the newbies that icefrog is no blizz dev team.
Whining about something accomplish absolutely nothing.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 10 2013 02:50 GMT
#5857
On August 10 2013 11:50 trinxified wrote:
Yo can someone tell me WTH is Rat Doto?


Always avoiding fights and splitpushing forever.
AimForTheBushes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1760 Posts
August 10 2013 02:50 GMT
#5858
On August 10 2013 11:33 xyzz wrote:
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I tend to be towards the bottom, you play to win, I mean how many cheese outs have we seen in major SC2 games? Tons

I have yet to see any 'creative special strategies' in SC2 where if you can time 2 abilities well you one shot the enemy army.

Every argument that 'this is hard' are ridiculous. It's not hard for the best players in the world since they do this every day all the time.


The Action Jesus 6pool? Proxy rax/port/gate? Cannon rush? DT rush? Reaper rush? 6/9 roach rush? Shall I continue? There's a plethora of cheesy shit in SC2.. and like this game, some people like it, and others cry that it's unfair.

Your argument that "this is hard" is refuted by itself, and by the game. They missed twice as many fountain hooks as they hit, and for some explicable reason, TF refused to push the issue while they not only had a numbers advantage (5v4), but a teamfight/skills/level advantage as well. Fountain hooking is a high-risk/high-reward strategy, and the way that the game was going, it was probably about the only way Na'Vi were going to pull back into the game. (And why are teams not banning Chen vs Na'Vi?? Seriously.)
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
August 10 2013 02:51 GMT
#5859
On August 10 2013 11:50 trinxified wrote:
Yo can someone tell me WTH is Rat Doto?

never taking fights, just constantly splitpushing and forcing the tempo into your favor

Fnatic are the masters of ratdoto
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
August 10 2013 02:51 GMT
#5860
fnatic really favor venge for some reason.
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