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tada.hts
Profile Joined March 2013
1968 Posts
August 10 2013 22:09 GMT
#2121
It's too late for TongFu to push now, even if their creep is in their favor.
derb
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 10 2013 22:09 GMT
#2122
On August 11 2013 07:08 4mgg wrote:
Facing elimination in biggest tournament of the year? Yeah let's not play safe..
There is strategy, too. Mostly positional play in this one. The low kill score tells not only the tale of carefulness but also of very good positioning, and being able to do that for 46 minutes+.. requires a lot of focus.
Don't like it? Nobody is forcing it down your throat..


So playing safe is staying in your base while slowly losing your huge advantage? How is that safe.
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
August 10 2013 22:09 GMT
#2123
On August 11 2013 07:08 Firebolt145 wrote:
iG for most boring team this tournament :<

So you're saying they learned quickly enough from Alliance to play their style better than them? =P
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
August 10 2013 22:09 GMT
#2124
9-4 at 49 minutes.
edgemega
Profile Joined August 2012
United States239 Posts
August 10 2013 22:10 GMT
#2125
On August 11 2013 07:09 Fusilero wrote:
The linkens is one of the absolute biggest problems. Without roar there's no way to catch out storm or morphling.


They need to play perfectly and get a purge off to break the linkens and then have KingJ roar right after
DDie
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil2369 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 22:10:57
August 10 2013 22:10 GMT
#2126
On August 11 2013 07:06 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 07:03 DDie wrote:
On August 11 2013 07:00 MCDayC wrote:
isn't alch full?


He can drop the shadow blade and bf and go critical mass mode.

I almost feel like he should just go Rapier and try to end it, this isn't going to turn out well if they drag this on for much longer...


That would take some cojones, i like the heart choice, if he really wants to get six slotted daedalus or mkb would be safer choice.


BM just need a refresher, then they insta win.
''Television! Teacher, mother, secret lover.''
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 10 2013 22:10 GMT
#2127
I really cannot understand why the Weaver is going for a 0 dmg build :/
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tsiisus
Profile Joined May 2012
Finland854 Posts
August 10 2013 22:10 GMT
#2128
On August 11 2013 07:08 Namunelbo wrote:
So TF really might drop out without winning a single game after that game vs Na'Vi...

Na'vi crushing team morale's since 2012
Wake up sheeple!
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
August 10 2013 22:10 GMT
#2129
Can Rubick steal Alchemists ulti?
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13081 Posts
August 10 2013 22:10 GMT
#2130
this game is worse than that 98 min game
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
August 10 2013 22:10 GMT
#2131
On August 11 2013 07:10 Abominous wrote:
Can Rubick steal Alchemists ulti?


yes
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
August 10 2013 22:10 GMT
#2132
On August 11 2013 07:10 Shikyo wrote:
I really cannot understand why the Weaver is going for a 0 dmg build :/

Rapier last item maybe?
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Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
August 10 2013 22:10 GMT
#2133
After the last two go-go-go games from Orange, this game just felt like a foreplay that just wouldn't end.
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 22:11:30
August 10 2013 22:10 GMT
#2134
On August 11 2013 07:07 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 07:05 Mafe wrote:
On August 11 2013 07:03 Comeh wrote:
On August 11 2013 07:01 Fusilero wrote:
On August 11 2013 07:00 Comeh wrote:
30k networth ~ 36-7 minutes in.

How much does IG benefit from stretching the game out? How big can weaver get?

iG has tri core and morph can outscale the alchemist by a bit but the weaver could potentially get bigger.

I'm not sure morph outscales morph in a manfight, but in a teamfight maybe.

Are you sure about this?

99%

But again, morph might offer more in a teamfight / picking off supports / split push.

Edit: I've written extensively on this / a lot of experience in this.

I guess you want to reread something in this conversation
Oh and happy bday.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 10 2013 22:11 GMT
#2135
Only took them 50 minutes to drink that can of man up to take that open rax.
Glorious SEA doto
Aelfric
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Turkey1496 Posts
August 10 2013 22:11 GMT
#2136
On August 11 2013 07:09 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 07:08 Firebolt145 wrote:
iG for most boring team this tournament :<

So you're saying they learned quickly enough from Alliance to play their style better than them? =P

Alliance's style isn't boring at all. They do fun gangs and play balanced dota...
Tomorrow never comes until its too late...
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
August 10 2013 22:11 GMT
#2137
On August 11 2013 07:10 Shikyo wrote:
I really cannot understand why the Weaver is going for a 0 dmg build :/


Because he would get molested if he didnt had either linkens or bkb
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 10 2013 22:11 GMT
#2138
Boom that headshot
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
August 10 2013 22:11 GMT
#2139
On August 11 2013 07:08 Kipsate wrote:
If you look at the items iG went, they went Linkens not only to block Roar but to block any countermeasures against their splitpushing, there is no way Tongfu can catch Ferrari or Zhou if they have Linkens up.

I'm not sure, but imho it's possible Tongfu is unable to win now unless some major big plays happen.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 10 2013 22:11 GMT
#2140
On August 11 2013 07:08 EmilA wrote:
This reminds me of a game with Eternalenvy where he kept taking all the farm at a maxed-inventory 8k bank point. Hogging farm for more (10) bkbs is NOT worth it.

People literally say this every game that a team gets their carry to 6 slots and keep farming.

They don't have a CHOICE. No other team member can safely or quickly push out a lane fast enough. If someone other than Alch is doing it, the split-push takes map control because Furion/Storm/Morph all push faster than any of the other 4 heroes.

Farm becomes less and less seamless to distribute as a game goes long like this. And at the point where it is seamless, the increased farm on the carry tends to be worthwhile.

It's just an unfortunate matter of being unable to end the game at their strong timing. They're not deliberately choosing to keep giving farm to the Alch, it's that if the game has gotten to this point, they don't have a choice anymore.
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