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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 12 2013 04:34 GMT
#10081
On August 12 2013 13:33 toemn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 13:31 EFermi wrote:
On August 12 2013 13:20 BoZiffer wrote:
Man. I honestly feel like no other event can match this hype. The International has to be the gold standard of eSports.


Huh? The final game was great but what was so special about the event itself? Definitely not the introduction nor winners cemeronies.


The production was better than the last 20 cheaply produced SC2 events combined. Get over it, deal with it. A new era has begun. TB and Artosis switching is only the beginning.

WCS EU had a better award ceremony for sure.
Neosteel Enthusiast
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 12 2013 04:34 GMT
#10082
On August 12 2013 13:34 sc14s wrote:
its funny that i see more anti na'vi fans complaining about the na'vi fans complaining than the actual na'vi fans complaining.

does this make any sense??


Its what always happens
sk1nex
Profile Joined May 2010
Finland299 Posts
August 12 2013 04:34 GMT
#10083
So fucking bored to hear the usual Alliance hate, mostly outside of TL but anyway. What makes their game boring? The same heroes and the split pushing? They've used a variety of strategies throughout the tournament and outplayed the opponent a number of times. With the same logic ppl could say that Na'Vi is just Dendi+4 (which it isnt).
"Im at Quakecon, Gonna win the Duel and TDM. Quake is easy" (c) 2GD | NTHNTHNTHNTHNTHNTH
Noxide
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 04:35:08
August 12 2013 04:34 GMT
#10084
Enemy Fountain Necronomicon Lvl3 beats Fountain Hook anyday.
Flash ひなの戦争の王である || しかし、実際にはヤフーの ファンタジーサッカー、楽しいプレー私の週末を占めている
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 12 2013 04:34 GMT
#10085
On August 12 2013 13:33 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 13:29 Mataza wrote:
On August 12 2013 13:27 r.Evo wrote:
On August 12 2013 13:24 Plansix wrote:
On August 12 2013 13:23 Mellon wrote:
The meta in Dota 2 seems to be terrible atm. At least Navi did play outside of it and got 2nd place. Really cool!

Puppy does not agree. He seemed did not mind the meta at all.

Puppey understands that he outsmarted Alliance while they outplayed him. That's what makes him one of the best Dota captains in the world, he has all the reason to be happy.

The current meta is crap.
The really good teams play each other so few times that it's basically just the opinion of teams.

OD deserves to fly straight out of the meta. Naga deserves to get right back in.
And a host of other little things

Dota is one of the greatest games in the world because people like your or me DON'T decide what makes it better.

Sit back, enjoy the ride and try to get behind the mysteries. This TI4 we had 14/16 of the worlds beast teams not understanding how this version was meant to be played. The fact that only DK and Na'Vi were smart enough to do so makes Dota Dota. And the fact that Alliance was able to win despite that with superior execution also makes Dota Dota.

In Icefrog we trust.

And the meta will change in two months. AND WHEN HAVE WE SEEN A NIGHTSTALKER PICK????????????!?!?!??!?!
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
August 12 2013 04:34 GMT
#10086
On August 12 2013 13:33 pdd wrote:
Speaking of which, this is just as good, if not better than the MMA vs DRG game 7 match in 2011 in the Blizzard Cup.

Only difference is this WAS the best eSports event.

Oh god, those tanks... THOSE freaking tanks destroying DRG last expansion
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 12 2013 04:34 GMT
#10087
my closing thoughts:

1) Not missing a single game of TI3 in the Australian timezone is really damn draining.
2) Fountain hooks are bullshit. I'm still fuming from that game.
3) Poor kyxy
4) I hope Burning doesn't retire, he can still do great things yet.
5) That was one of the best final games of any tournament I've ever watched
6) juff is a fucking boss for live reporting all the games. seriously, what a hero
7) China disband... or at least massive reshuffle. i expect a very interesting chinese scene for the next few months
8) Amazing production from the team. There are a lot of things they can improve about TI in general, but overall great job.
9) Thank god azarkon was banned for the main event.
10) Long live Dota 2!
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
August 12 2013 04:34 GMT
#10088
Stop complaining about split pushing...

If NaVi didn't want to deal with it, why not ban NP?
hyptonic
Profile Joined June 2011
2155 Posts
August 12 2013 04:34 GMT
#10089
yo the point of the game is to kill the ancient.

how can u be mad for a team trying to do it fast?
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 12 2013 04:35 GMT
#10090
On August 12 2013 13:33 Scio wrote:
...

I'm a Navi fan, and what I didn't like was the the game ended without a real figth. Nothing more, nothing less. I don't hate splitpush and rat-dota; I'm even the founder of Fnatic's fanclub
EZ4ENCE
ZombieDeSaguayo
Profile Joined March 2013
Spain14 Posts
August 12 2013 04:35 GMT
#10091
Congrats to [A] and Na'vi for a great final.

Can't wait for next TI.
Drone a la BBQ
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
August 12 2013 04:35 GMT
#10092
On August 12 2013 13:33 Noxide wrote:
Ban bulldog prophet everytime!! Respect banning EGM's naga takes a lower priority.

Did you watch the first alliance vs navi series?
© Current year.
Colston
Profile Joined November 2012
Norway279 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 04:36:51
August 12 2013 04:35 GMT
#10093
Win for Alliance = Me satisfied

Na'Vi played extremely well and would not carry a grudge if they won.

Dota 2 and Valve the real winners, because that final was absolutely epic.
He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious. - Sun Tzu | TaeJa | Jjakji | Jaedong
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 12 2013 04:35 GMT
#10094
On August 12 2013 13:34 opterown wrote:
my closing thoughts:

1) Not missing a single game of TI3 in the Australian timezone is really damn draining.
2) Fountain hooks are bullshit. I'm still fuming from that game.
3) Poor kyxy
4) I hope Burning doesn't retire, he can still do great things yet.
5) That was one of the best final games of any tournament I've ever watched
6) juff is a fucking boss for live reporting all the games. seriously, what a hero
7) China disband... or at least massive reshuffle. i expect a very interesting chinese scene for the next few months
8) Amazing production from the team. There are a lot of things they can improve about TI in general, but overall great job.
9) Thank god azarkon was banned for the main event.
10) Long live Dota 2!


Hey what about me!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 04:37:48
August 12 2013 04:35 GMT
#10095
On August 12 2013 13:33 Noxide wrote:
Ban bulldog prophet everytime!! Respect banning EGM's naga takes a lower priority.


I don't know man. The great thing about the Alliance is they really don't have a weak point on their team and they have a big and I mean big pool to play. That's the beauty of it. I cannot say the same for many of the other teams especially the Asian ones. They just didn't have the supporting cast to hang this International. It's the old homage: your only as good as your weakest player.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
August 12 2013 04:35 GMT
#10096
On August 12 2013 13:34 opterown wrote:
my closing thoughts:

1) Not missing a single game of TI3 in the Australian timezone is really damn draining.
2) Fountain hooks are bullshit. I'm still fuming from that game.
3) Poor kyxy
4) I hope Burning doesn't retire, he can still do great things yet.
5) That was one of the best final games of any tournament I've ever watched
6) juff is a fucking boss for live reporting all the games. seriously, what a hero
7) China disband... or at least massive reshuffle. i expect a very interesting chinese scene for the next few months
8) Amazing production from the team. There are a lot of things they can improve about TI in general, but overall great job.
9) Thank god azarkon was banned for the main event.
10) Long live Dota 2!


Lol nice optertown. I agree with all of this. But who the hell is azarkon?
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
August 12 2013 04:35 GMT
#10097
On August 12 2013 13:32 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 13:31 fantasticoranges wrote:
On August 12 2013 13:31 CorsairHero wrote:
On August 12 2013 13:27 Steelavocado wrote:
How can a tourny like this be beat?

With Navi beating Alliance next year.


With a split push. In the final game.

That's the only way.

Nah, next year meta will be centered around 5 mid 10 minutes rax.

With what heroes should that be even remotely possible?
You need to have superior pushing power early, superior teamfighting early and be able to catch up after you went 5 man push during laning phase.
You can't pick syllabear 5 times.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
August 12 2013 04:35 GMT
#10098
Remember that the 5 game was not won due to split push. It was due to TP cancels. Without those cancels, Alliance can split push all they want but they will still lose.

I wouldn't say Alliance outplayed Navi in game 5. I would say it's the opposite, with slight outdraft. But S4 delivering at such clutch situations shows how class of a player he is. I don't think I have seen a solo mid player as good as S4 in terms of playmaking. We have flashy laning gods like Mushi/Dendi/430, but none of them are at the same level as S4 when it comes to playmaking. This guy single handily dictates the tempo of the game so many times.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 12 2013 04:35 GMT
#10099
On August 12 2013 13:34 Ruccola wrote:
How is EternalEnvy feeling right now?

He's applying for Swede nationality and hope to rejoin the squad I guess.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 12 2013 04:36 GMT
#10100
On August 12 2013 13:35 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 13:34 opterown wrote:
my closing thoughts:

1) Not missing a single game of TI3 in the Australian timezone is really damn draining.
2) Fountain hooks are bullshit. I'm still fuming from that game.
3) Poor kyxy
4) I hope Burning doesn't retire, he can still do great things yet.
5) That was one of the best final games of any tournament I've ever watched
6) juff is a fucking boss for live reporting all the games. seriously, what a hero
7) China disband... or at least massive reshuffle. i expect a very interesting chinese scene for the next few months
8) Amazing production from the team. There are a lot of things they can improve about TI in general, but overall great job.
9) Thank god azarkon was banned for the main event.
10) Long live Dota 2!


Hey what about me!


Hey I remember you, you're the guy who likes Ravens.
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