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reDicE
United States1020 Posts
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
On May 04 2014 04:05 seffer wrote: Tree games are so boring. Applying armor takes no skill and forgives bad play. Forgives bad play, or allows for players to be more aggressive and do what would normally look like bad play, when in fact it is good play because they know an armor is waiting for them? | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On May 04 2014 04:05 seffer wrote: Tree games are so boring. Applying armor takes no skill and forgives bad play. That's why ppd's tree isn't boring. He somehow does much more things other than throwing armour :D | ||
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seffer
United States143 Posts
On May 04 2014 04:10 Chewbacca. wrote: Forgives bad play, or allows for players to be more aggressive and do what would normally look like bad play, when in fact it is good play because they know an armor is waiting for them? In this game, it was often applied defensively to save teammates who were otherwise badly positioned to begin with, which I think is boring to watch. In other cases, you're right, there is some skill involved in the communication required to make good aggressive use of it, but the fact that it can be cast globally and costs very little is not impressive to watch. The current iteration is broken. If it doesn't see a nerf before TI4 I can see it being banned every game. | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On May 04 2014 04:05 seffer wrote: Tree games are so boring. Applying armor takes no skill and forgives bad play. Yeah, 3-0-2 Tree at 7 minutes is so boring. Zero skill to out level solo-safelane Dark Seer without ever staying in lane. | ||
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Linwelin
Ireland7554 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32746 Posts
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
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seffer
United States143 Posts
On May 04 2014 04:19 CosmicSpiral wrote: Plenty of spells can cancel it out. Jakiro is like one big counter to Tree too. Good point. I don't think the mechanic of the skill is broken, in theory, because some heroes do counter it. But the fact it can be cast anywhere on the map, for almost nothing, removes the skill aspect of it. Especially in the early game when it's often obvious on where it should be cast. There's never any question about the cost of using it, or any positional skill involved to take advantage of it, unlike many other dota skills that make the game so hard. I would like to see the skill have some limitation applied somewhere. | ||
Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
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Skillver
Austria1309 Posts
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On May 04 2014 04:29 seffer wrote: Good point. I don't think the mechanic of the skill is broken, in theory, because some heroes do counter it. But the fact it can be cast anywhere on the map, for almost nothing, removes the skill aspect of it. Especially in the early game when it's often obvious on where it should be cast. There's never any question about the cost of using it, or any positional skill involved to take advantage of it, unlike many other dota skills that make the game so hard. I would like to see the skill have some limitation applied somewhere. I think it's just strong in the current meta. DoT spells are out of fashion, it lets cores "overextend" with some safety like Dazzle/Shadow Demon, and tower control is so important even for the offlane. | ||
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Ru ba
Serbia1812 Posts
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Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
On May 04 2014 04:43 Ru ba wrote: idk what the fuck envy is doing he's loosing 1v1 vs dk being outplayed, presumably | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On May 04 2014 04:43 Ru ba wrote: idk what the fuck envy is doing he's loosing 1v1 vs dk Morphing into agility? Newsflash, morph is squishy mid. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
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Linwelin
Ireland7554 Posts
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