But because i spammed Visage, i wasn't able to carry the whole game by myself because i got a shit team 10 games in a row.
Does anyone know any good hero that i can spam in ranked that can carry the game by itself in around ~1500 mmr?
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ignore the birds
Macedonia5 Posts
But because i spammed Visage, i wasn't able to carry the whole game by myself because i got a shit team 10 games in a row. Does anyone know any good hero that i can spam in ranked that can carry the game by itself in around ~1500 mmr? | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
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goody153
44238 Posts
you can also go spam spectre you just farm all game and just join on fights | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Just go with Wraith King I'd say and the like - my friend's lol awful always cringe when I play with him yet crushes his low mmr pubs with WK And I'd say second option is Sven - a bit harder that WK but really strong now Slark's too hard with Pounce, dark pact timing, map awareness for ganks Spectre is lol hard when you don't have free lane, people stealing CS and no support Ember - come on guys really 1600 MMR :D | ||
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Murlox
France1699 Posts
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
literally no one knows how to play against them in 1k | ||
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RandomAnon
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If there's no natural silver edge carrier in enemy team, PA can be good. Just destroy them before they got mkb. I've been finding a lot of success with deso drow. Just don't pick her if there's "in your face" type of heroes in the enemy team. Ex : axe, slark, etc. But then again, I've never won against axe in weeks no matter whatever hero i used. If you got mid, sniper is a solid choice as long as the other mid isn't pa, or tanky heroes that you can't har.ass in early game. Ember is also great if you can play him. Slark is great if there's not a lot of lockdown on the enemy team. | ||
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sertas
Sweden890 Posts
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Murlox
France1699 Posts
On May 28 2017 22:02 sertas wrote: play the ones with the highest winrate for ur bracket being 1600ish opendota has lists on hero winrate on mmr I meant to say the same ![]() Just in case, here is the link : https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/meta then click on "win%" to sort. | ||
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goody153
44238 Posts
On May 28 2017 22:11 Murlox wrote: Show nested quote + On May 28 2017 22:02 sertas wrote: play the ones with the highest winrate for ur bracket being 1600ish opendota has lists on hero winrate on mmr I meant to say the same ![]() Just in case, here is the link : https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/meta then click on "win%" to sort. wow zeus is the highest winrate from 2k-5k lol | ||
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nanaoei
3358 Posts
if you can learn to play a good venomancer he can carry you every game from low mmr. keep Q at 1, do your lane, if lane is fine or unkillable, jungle until you have high levels in ward, take towers at a lane, take more towers, and farm more levels until you are living breathing cancer on the map. you can get away with veil -> guardian greaves -> hurricane pike and literally the hero will do everything except hard-disable. | ||
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ahw
Canada1099 Posts
This sounds weird but yeah. Heroes like veno are great because you will do 50-75k dmg in a 45 min game without much effort. In low mmr especially you just have to do more damage than them because nobody itemizes properly and nobody takes objectives. Don't think about playing "positions" like carry or support or whatever. You can win the game from any position at this level. Just focus on doing more dmg than anyone else in the game. Other good heroes for this... Zeus, necro, spec, Riki, veno.. | ||
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ignore the birds
Macedonia5 Posts
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Murlox
France1699 Posts
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ignore the birds
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zdarr
France375 Posts
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sCuMBaG
United Kingdom1144 Posts
On May 30 2017 10:32 zdarr wrote: viper is easy to play, easy to win early game with and you just have to snowball from that. I was just going to say that. One of the easiest (but high impact) heroes to play ![]() | ||
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ahw
Canada1099 Posts
Only problem is if you get behind early | ||
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Buckyman
1364 Posts
* Drow Ranger, specializing in afk farm and split push; practice last hitting and orb walking. Low skill opponents don't know how to punish her. * Lich support, gaining an XP advantage in laning and winning teamfights because they clump up against his ult. * Vengeful Spirit flex, taking either a core or support role in a 2-1-2 depending on how well her lane-partner can last hit. The core variant focused on team utility, relying on another core for late game. As you improve, you can add roaming or trilane support to your repertoire. Practice stacking, pulling and pullthroughs. * Viper mid, for shutting down the opponent's mid. | ||
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Pontual
Brazil3038 Posts
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
Anyway look at this trend, what happen?! I don't know. It's really really fucking bad. I need to get out of here lol. Any help would be great. I can spam most heros ok but nothing seems to work as of late... https://www.opendota.com/players/33682264/mmr this is the LOWEST mmr I have ever been actually. I don't know how to revert the damage haha There is an advantage though, I think I could probably play a hero that I don't usually play and try to get good at it, now that my MMR is so shit and likely the games would be easier (to some measure). Here's the list of heros that I do play a lot, so if you suggest someone that can single handedly win games, fun to play, and isn't in my most played hero, I'm all ears. https://www.opendota.com/players/33682264/heroes | ||
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Yurie
12059 Posts
On June 01 2017 21:29 evanthebouncy! wrote: well I think I need some same advice lol... I think I'm actually IN the trench now, not just the edge of it. Games are super crazy, people do the most retarded shit. Anyway look at this trend, what happen?! I don't know. It's really really fucking bad. I need to get out of here lol. Any help would be great. I can spam most heros ok but nothing seems to work as of late... https://www.opendota.com/players/33682264/mmr this is the LOWEST mmr I have ever been actually. I don't know how to revert the damage haha There is an advantage though, I think I could probably play a hero that I don't usually play and try to get good at it, now that my MMR is so shit and likely the games would be easier (to some measure). Here's the list of heros that I do play a lot, so if you suggest someone that can single handedly win games, fun to play, and isn't in my most played hero, I'm all ears. https://www.opendota.com/players/33682264/heroes Based on your post you need a mental shift more than a specific hero. At 3k you need to be 5k to be able to single handedly win games consistently. Focus on winning your role compared to your opponent and enabling your team as needed. A good example of bad mentality (you aren't anywhere near this bad) was a troll we had. He spent 20 minutes in jungle as 0-0-0. Then went out and got a ton of kills but refused to rosh or take towers. So once they could kite him or eat us when he refused to come we lose. He had great stats at the end but lost the game for us. If you actually want a hero you play a lot, pick spectre. Good win rate. Good game impact and can recover from a 1vs3 lane in worst case scenarios and still win if game drags on. The only other strong hero you have played a lot is Spirit Breaker but he requires a totally different mentality so wouldn't suggest playing those two together. Something like WK, Sven and drow would fit better. If you need a carry that is like spirit breaker go ursa. ![]() If you want to enable your team and win your lane instead of carrying singlehandedly I would suggest treant and omni on top of Spirit Breaker. Closest heroes to solo games are as always terrorblade, troll, lycan and to a lesser degree morphling. No super strong mids right now but classic ones are storm and tinker that can kill them until your team wins. | ||
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BasalGanglia
31 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 28 2017 14:26 goody153 wrote: ember , TA , qop Those are heroes for a 5k player playing in 1.5k games. A 1.5k player in 1.5k games isn't going to play those heroes well enough for them to be worth playing. | ||
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zdarr
France375 Posts
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Meta
United States6225 Posts
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Ler
Germany543 Posts
Mid: Viper / Razor Carry: Spectre / WK Sups: Jakiro / Shadow Shaman / Venomancer | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17692 Posts
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Merany
France890 Posts
Probably less now but still very good. | ||
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Raii
Philippines194 Posts
He's not as mechanically demanding, too! Can't say for sure though, but it works for me lol (4k-5k bracket) | ||
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nanaoei
3358 Posts
if you can get levels, - good laning, can bully and push lanes, good dual lane. - good right click - good with items, carries auras and gem well - easy teamfights, has utility - fast farming - splitpush, nearly risk free because of ulti, made even better with more items - walking venge de-buff that makes other heroes weaker than they should be. in other words, not much is expected of you except to use your two main spells which are very easy to place and get value out of, but the hero is quite cancerous if left in lane or you need someone to go out and take some pressure off your team. you just walk down a lane and start pushing. quite cheesy. one of those heroes that can get away with a lot and also build nearly every item in the game. you're also a walking magnet for objectives. sometimes your team wants to take objectives too quickly, you just walk away and basically say 'don't fight without me there.' sometimes your team follows you around just because of how strong you are and they know that you're a magnet for heroes to blow all their spells on. i'd recommend greaves, force/blink, pipe/shivas, stuff like that if you want a clean win; if necessary, stall until bkb timers are low. or if you are carrying and you've been the one pushing lanes for farm, you could go a build with radiance, travels, octarine, blademail, manta/bkb, orchid, silver edge. stuff like that. i've done the naga build, i've done echosaber and sorts of weird stuff like that on the hero, it all works against uncoordinated teams. i have even played it hard pos 5. it works fine some games if you're not forced to tp to lanes. only real weaknesses i'd say are, good players, getting shut down in lane, heavy magic damage/silences. | ||
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fourthirds
Canada132 Posts
On May 29 2017 01:28 nanaoei wrote: honestly? venomancer if you can learn to play a good venomancer he can carry you every game from low mmr. keep Q at 1, do your lane, if lane is fine or unkillable, jungle until you have high levels in ward, take towers at a lane, take more towers, and farm more levels until you are living breathing cancer on the map. you can get away with veil -> guardian greaves -> hurricane pike and literally the hero will do everything except hard-disable. +1 to veno. You can pick him first or second and play any role from right click core to lane support or roamer. If your lanes suck he's not terrible as a support in lane. If your lanes are good you can roam or jungle. If you have some cancer offlaner to work with you can pair up and punish the enemy safe lane. He's pretty easy to execute also - landing your Q is the hardest part. | ||
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iamakiro
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ahw
Canada1099 Posts
On June 17 2017 08:43 fourthirds wrote: Show nested quote + On May 29 2017 01:28 nanaoei wrote: honestly? venomancer if you can learn to play a good venomancer he can carry you every game from low mmr. keep Q at 1, do your lane, if lane is fine or unkillable, jungle until you have high levels in ward, take towers at a lane, take more towers, and farm more levels until you are living breathing cancer on the map. you can get away with veil -> guardian greaves -> hurricane pike and literally the hero will do everything except hard-disable. +1 to veno. You can pick him first or second and play any role from right click core to lane support or roamer. If your lanes suck he's not terrible as a support in lane. If your lanes are good you can roam or jungle. If you have some cancer offlaner to work with you can pair up and punish the enemy safe lane. He's pretty easy to execute also - landing your Q is the hardest part. veno ends most games with the highest dmg dealt and can be played from any pos... dumpsters low mmr games especially.. | ||
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TMG26
Portugal2017 Posts
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spacecoke
Sweden112 Posts
On June 15 2017 22:41 nanaoei wrote: i'm going to add underlord to this list. if you can get levels, - good laning, can bully and push lanes, good dual lane. - good right click - good with items, carries auras and gem well - easy teamfights, has utility - fast farming - splitpush, nearly risk free because of ulti, made even better with more items - walking venge de-buff that makes other heroes weaker than they should be. in other words, not much is expected of you except to use your two main spells which are very easy to place and get value out of, but the hero is quite cancerous if left in lane or you need someone to go out and take some pressure off your team. you just walk down a lane and start pushing. quite cheesy. one of those heroes that can get away with a lot and also build nearly every item in the game. you're also a walking magnet for objectives. sometimes your team wants to take objectives too quickly, you just walk away and basically say 'don't fight without me there.' sometimes your team follows you around just because of how strong you are and they know that you're a magnet for heroes to blow all their spells on. i'd recommend greaves, force/blink, pipe/shivas, stuff like that if you want a clean win; if necessary, stall until bkb timers are low. or if you are carrying and you've been the one pushing lanes for farm, you could go a build with radiance, travels, octarine, blademail, manta/bkb, orchid, silver edge. stuff like that. i've done the naga build, i've done echosaber and sorts of weird stuff like that on the hero, it all works against uncoordinated teams. i have even played it hard pos 5. it works fine some games if you're not forced to tp to lanes. only real weaknesses i'd say are, good players, getting shut down in lane, heavy magic damage/silences. Reading this, I will start spamming UL once I get out of low-prio lul | ||
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Jisira
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bluzi
4703 Posts
On July 01 2017 23:32 Jisira wrote: I spam Bloodseeker, Viper and Razor. All three of them are a literal horror to face in lane and translate very well into the midgame. Agreed , i think lane dominators are the way to go , the snowball is too big and ppl just feed -> tp to a lost lane -> feed -> run back to a lost lane , the lanes are static for a while at the start so no one is going to help or switch lanes with the feeding laner , if you pick lane dominator you should do fine. | ||
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Damned627
Indonesia264 Posts
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Jisira
470 Posts
On July 02 2017 02:06 bluzi wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2017 23:32 Jisira wrote: I spam Bloodseeker, Viper and Razor. All three of them are a literal horror to face in lane and translate very well into the midgame. Agreed , i think lane dominators are the way to go , the snowball is too big and ppl just feed -> tp to a lost lane -> feed -> run back to a lost lane , the lanes are static for a while at the start so no one is going to help or switch lanes with the feeding laner , if you pick lane dominator you should do fine. At 1.5k MMR lanes are bound to be really static and people generally just go back to lane. If you win lane and get towers earlier you're able to have a greater impact for your team without having to deal with mechanics such as macro-level play and just focus on doing your own thing. Viper, Razor and Bloodseeker are relatively simple heroes to play whereas they take more skill to play against. As long as you don't pick the wrong one, they can go into each and every game. It should be added that none of these heroes have stuns and you can TP out from them as long as they are solo and you do it early enough, but we're talking 1.5k MMR. However, their skill sets are really optimal for playing your own game on your own lane and dictating your own fate. Bloodseeker has a straight-forward ulti. Combined with his AoE silence and damage amplify, his ult generally tears weaker opponents apart. He also has the added benefit of taking advantage of other lanes that might win AND provides map vision of weak enemies. His laning is very much based on his sustain, and picking up a Quelling Blade plus a Poor Man's Shield will often allow you to win the lane or easily retreat into the jungle until you can add pressure on a lane at level 6. Viper has an orb attack that allows easy harass in the lane. He's slow, but he gets a lot of his damage from his W, allowing him to get really early boots to offset this downside. Ulting someone at level 6 generally nets you a kill. He's ranged and this allows you to push towers comparatively well, and his Agi scaling means that the physical damage output on buildings will be improved by proper itemisation. Razor is probably the most complicated out of the three heroes, simply because his strengths are that he is decent at a lot of things. He's not that fast, but Phase Boots and a Wind Lace allows him to abuse his speed. He's deceptively squishy, and this has to be offset by items. His passive helps, but not that much (depends on hero). He relies on getting a movement speed advantage and abusing his Static Link as well as spamming waves out with Q - which drains your mana without proper itemisation or mana control. If you understand his needs - movement, positioning and mana control - he is an amazing hero to absolutely dominate a lane against most heroes. Edit: He's also a hero that doesn't have to wait until level 6 to have a potential for a "secure kill". | ||
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DavoS
United States4605 Posts
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Razyda
911 Posts
.Check there is no SB, AM, Spectre, Timber. Pick Furion. skills: w-q-q-w-q-r-q-w-w. Phase boots, blademail (in this bracket blademail is good on everyone) TP where appropriate to win/salvage fight. Carry dust if there are any invis heroes. After that just itemize as needed People here either dont know you can quelling blade/tango through trees, or are so slow that it doesnt matter, so you have effectively 6 sec disable on 8 sec cd .Downside/upside, depend as you see it, is that if you loose a game you know it is entirely on you. | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
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Gimpb
293 Posts
Fair warning: this kind of focus can easily leave gaping holes in your understanding of other aspects of the game and may not be as much fun. Also: stop thinking of your teammates as being terrible as a reason for a loss. The matchmaker puts certain people together for a reason. Thinking about how you can improve what you can control will be much more productive. | ||
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absinthfee
Germany718 Posts
Best for climbing in my opinion are necro/abba/omni. Necro can be played anywhere to great effect, while I would not play abba/omni mid or carry. Once you decently understand what the hero does you will skyrocket in MMR. | ||
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taruhan12
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Manit0u
Poland17692 Posts
I think it's one of the best and well-rounded heroes with a lot of flexibility (which also makes it less boring since you can play many games in a row with it and each one of them you can play differently). Edit: Other good picks would be Lina, Pugna and Windrunner. Also very versatile. | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
my point is, get better, hero is completly irrelevant at this mmr. a 4k stack would probably win every game with 5 crystal maidens | ||
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Day_Walker
104 Posts
On August 09 2017 22:24 KalWarkov wrote: at 1400 mmr, you should spam carry crystal maiden. my point is, get better, hero is completly irrelevant at this mmr. a 4k stack would probably win every game with 5 crystal maidens The real question is, would the mana auras stack? | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
When draft starts Immediately mark Jungle and say loudly "I Jungle, last pick please" and then depending on their draft just pick a strong roamer Or if they jungle themselves still jungle Works wonders | ||
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ChunderBoy
3242 Posts
On August 12 2017 18:01 LemOn wrote: Guys I have a new approach When draft starts Immediately mark Jungle and say loudly "I Jungle, last pick please" and then depending on their draft just pick a strong roamer Or if they jungle themselves still jungle Works wonders huh?! good way to tilt ur team from min 0 | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
split them to death win rinse and repeat | ||
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Pontual
Brazil3038 Posts
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