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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10700 Posts
April 22 2015 14:30 GMT
#41
I don't see them winning too, but couldn't they hold their own?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-22 14:42:21
April 22 2015 14:35 GMT
#42
DS classically was a Brood "counterpick" because he *can* do well if he understands the matchup a lot better than Brood does, but in general it's still unfavored.

Magnus has the aforementioned problem that his mana situation isn't good enough without bottle-crow (and safe lane bottle-crow puts pressure on mid) and his nuke isn't good enough until too late.

Like, a ton of heroes that have AoE that's *eventually* capable of dealing with spiders lose too hard early before their nukes are actually strong enough or their mana is good enough to actually do that. You can't really just get crushed till level 5 and start nuking spiders, because by then she'll have an item advantage and not need them to beat you (especially since she can take a rank of passive to just fuck you up), and just use them to kill neutrals on the side for extra farm.
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Ler
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Germany543 Posts
April 23 2015 01:18 GMT
#43
Sandking and Bristle are really good vs Brood.
Especially Sandking with early levels in Caustic Finale will zone Brood already on lvl 1 since she can not even go near creeps. Just hit every creep once to apply the debuff. On level two, you do the same but when cbrood goes near creeps, you stun her + the creeps debuffed to kill em off which will inflict huge dmg to brood
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
April 23 2015 08:53 GMT
#44
LC kind of suck balls vs brood.
A lot of times you think you have a kill on blink ult, but no, you miss like 60% of your attacks and don't get duel damage ;(
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
April 23 2015 09:40 GMT
#45
On April 23 2015 10:18 Ler wrote:
Sandking and Bristle are really good vs Brood.
Especially Sandking with early levels in Caustic Finale will zone Brood already on lvl 1 since she can not even go near creeps. Just hit every creep once to apply the debuff. On level two, you do the same but when cbrood goes near creeps, you stun her + the creeps debuffed to kill em off which will inflict huge dmg to brood
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now ive heard opposite things from two BLUE POSTERS who is correct???
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Surprise.820
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1276 Posts
April 23 2015 10:43 GMT
#46
On April 23 2015 17:53 evanthebouncy! wrote:
LC kind of suck balls vs brood.
A lot of times you think you have a kill on blink ult, but no, you miss like 60% of your attacks and don't get duel damage ;(


To be fair you would likely need at least one of your nukers to TP in anyway if you intend to gank anyone as early game LC.
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
April 23 2015 20:47 GMT
#47
On April 23 2015 18:40 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 10:18 Ler wrote:
Sandking and Bristle are really good vs Brood.
Especially Sandking with early levels in Caustic Finale will zone Brood already on lvl 1 since she can not even go near creeps. Just hit every creep once to apply the debuff. On level two, you do the same but when cbrood goes near creeps, you stun her + the creeps debuffed to kill em off which will inflict huge dmg to brood
Reapeat into oblivion.

now ive heard opposite things from two BLUE POSTERS who is correct???

One is talking about an idealized 1v1 situation, and one is talking about what you would actually draft for your lanes. Solo safelane max Caustic Finale Sand King is not going to be winning prizes for innovative new laning choice any time soon.

Duck is right. Brood is such a lackluster hero for teamfights and highground push/defense that she needs to shut down the enemy laner and farm massively in order to be considered good. You don't want to be playing for late with a melee hero whose steroid skill does nothing past granting 100 damage and whose manfight potential is demolished by both BKB and MKB. Not when you have Troll and Juggernaut to worry about.
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MadeOfCotton
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany28 Posts
April 23 2015 21:02 GMT
#48
why is nobody mentioning tide? I don't have much experience in the matchup, but getting w and e should mean the only way she can damage you is her nuke, right? So if you have enough regen you should be fine, and as others said, having an even lane with brood is pretty much winning. Or did I miss something?
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-23 21:13:35
April 23 2015 21:12 GMT
#49
All heroes but axe needs levels and items in order to deal with her. Axe needs something but much more minimal. Blue posters and the others tell that brood will dominate the lane and extract much more than the opposition starting from level 1 1v1.

Tide can do something after level 7 but even he cannot win the lane.
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