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On November 09 2014 02:24 75 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2014 00:38 mantequilla wrote:On November 09 2014 00:37 govie wrote:On November 09 2014 00:34 mantequilla wrote:
Can someone recommend me some good English streams? I'm new to the game. Purge, Merlini they have own guides about heros and guides on their websites/youtube. They tell alot about why they do stuff. http://www.merlinidota.com/ <-- merlini's content section is pretty good. I was looking for live player streams. Already checking out guides/tutorials. i like wagamama for some more serious dota and singsing for some crazy dota.
Yeah that pretty much sums it up.
Waga was talking about being a streamer vs. being a pro player and how shit the income is (player income specifically is a whole big discussion I don't want to derail into in this thread) comparitively for the average pro player. It really highlights a key difference between the LoL pro scene and the Dota2 pro scene: streaming is something Waga says a lot of pro players simply can't make time for where it's a contractual thing for a lot of League players.
I really think you could kill two birds with one stone (lack of consistent Dota2 streamers -> constantly losing to LoL on Twitch viewership -> smaller profile for Dota2 -> esports/playerbase opportunity loss AND the low income of non-top-tier players) by making streaming part of more contracts. More exposure for sponsors of team through overlays and more income for players independent of sponsor organization, while creating the expectation that pro players stream rather than it being their own thing they have to make time for if they want to do it.
ANYWAY SingSing's stream has made me laugh to tears on many occasions, he is a very talented player who is the opposite of a tryhard. Pretty much only streams with a full stack and does ridiculous shit constantly. Waga on the other hand is about 95% tryhard. He doesn't always pick to win but he plays every game to win. But he's not an asshole like a lot of tryhards so he is fun to watch. He plays Meepo at a high level (TA is his signature hero though) and just about everything pretty well. Unlike Sing he also streams full-time so you can watch him consistently.
If you want to learn you won't learn how to support from either of these streams though. In fact you won't learn anything from Sing but you can learn a lot about playing cores and mechanics from Waga. Just Waga almost never plays support and Sing's idea of playing support is diving towers and killing his own couriers and never ever warding.
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On November 09 2014 02:24 75 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2014 00:38 mantequilla wrote:On November 09 2014 00:37 govie wrote:On November 09 2014 00:34 mantequilla wrote:
Can someone recommend me some good English streams? I'm new to the game. Purge, Merlini they have own guides about heros and guides on their websites/youtube. They tell alot about why they do stuff. http://www.merlinidota.com/ <-- merlini's content section is pretty good. I was looking for live player streams. Already checking out guides/tutorials. i like wagamama for some more serious dota and singsing for some crazy dota.
And if u like to listen to really awkward russian mimic, go watch Pajkatt. 
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On November 07 2014 09:02 govie wrote:
If you can pull it off im gonna be your fan.
i think at my level i don't need to do anything to my enemies miss lasthits
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On November 09 2014 09:06 pedrlz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2014 09:02 govie wrote:
If you can pull it off im gonna be your fan. i think at my level i don't need to do anything to my enemies miss lasthits
Doesnt matter, i like controversial suggestions alot. Thinking outside the box takes skill and sometimes persistence, until you cross the mental line that is
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2.8 millon viewers it s amazing :D
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SoCal8910 Posts
If you're new to the game I would not recommend watching sing sing stream for educational purposes. While he is very very entertaining, he does a lot of shit that average players cannot do and still win.
I don't think it's a bad idea to watch him stream, just don't go picking up tips on gameplay. Just absorb his attitude towards pubs and you will have a good time 
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Why do QW Invokers not take an early point in E for last-hitting?
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you'd rather have higher levels in QW for your skills
when you play QW usually you rush phase boots anyways and that gives you enough damage to right click creeps
getting a point in exort for last hitting is a crutch that you're better off not using
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I still don't get why Exort Invokers bother with phase boots unless they were laning against ember or some easy to punish shit. Why don't people realise rushing midas/bot into necro3 into bot is a thing
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necro 3 is such a boring way to play invoker. good build but fuck i hate playing it. mobility invoker is best invoker, regardless of which skill build you go
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On November 10 2014 07:20 Surprise.820 wrote:
I still don't get why Exort Invokers bother with phase boots unless they were laning against ember or some easy to punish shit. Why don't people realise rushing midas/bot into necro3 into bot is a thing
almost no exort invokers that i see go phase if they're going exort, they all either do euls into force staff or midas necro 3 bot
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I still see them get phase sometimes and it drives me up the wall because they become useless and don't push.
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Can Timbersaw's first blood response be a reference to Game of Thrones (oberyn martell) ?
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SoCal8910 Posts
On November 10 2014 18:06 Surprise.820 wrote:
I still see them get phase sometimes and it drives me up the wall because they become useless and don't push.
I don't think its mandatory for extort invokers to push, and like someone said above, it can be very boring.
I see a lot of midas + bot + euls into that single target nuke combo. having bots + forge spirits alone is good enough for pushing.
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United States47024 Posts
Exort Invoker can be the 4-0-4-1 level 9 double Forge spirits, or it can be straight Exort max with the Wex point for Deafening Blast to maximize the Meteor+Blast+Sunstrike combo damage. They play differently and itemize differently.
I actually think the latter is better for pubs because it's much more capable of solo-killing.
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On November 10 2014 07:20 Surprise.820 wrote:
I still don't get why Exort Invokers bother with phase boots unless they were laning against ember or some easy to punish shit. Why don't people realise rushing midas/bot into necro3 into bot is a thing
you're forgetting h4nni's bot skadi rush on every hero build
On November 10 2014 19:30 mantequilla wrote:Can Timbersaw's first blood response be a reference to Game of Thrones (oberyn martell) ?
unlikely, i would have to know what line you're referring to but timber came out way before that season of GoT. So unless it's a line from the books (possible but unlikely)
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Most voices or atleast alot that you hear ingame are from the actors of the tv series "defiance".
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Hi guys, why isn't lina+lion roaming supports a thing in pro games. My friend and I are thinking of doing it in a pub later but it hit me that I haven't really seen that line up in pro matches.
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On November 11 2014 14:59 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Hi guys, why isn't lina+lion roaming supports a thing in pro games. My friend and I are thinking of doing it in a pub later but it hit me that I haven't really seen that line up in pro matches.
Lion does like no damage. Other heroes can set up for lina with higher damage output.
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On November 11 2014 15:01 Yurie wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2014 14:59 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Hi guys, why isn't lina+lion roaming supports a thing in pro games. My friend and I are thinking of doing it in a pub later but it hit me that I haven't really seen that line up in pro matches. Lion does like no damage. Other heroes can set up for lina with higher damage output.
Noted.
On the topic of dual roaming supports, who would be a good partner for a roaming Sven (who will be a safety net carry come end game)?
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