EPTLong answer is that Bat still gives a lot to a team, and with big ganks creating big swings he can still be very useful. Even if he can't lane well and can't farm as fast, his ultimate plus a blink and a force can change games entirely. It's an extreme amount of lockdown, even if you have to be sub melee range to use it.
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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
Long answer is that Bat still gives a lot to a team, and with big ganks creating big swings he can still be very useful. Even if he can't lane well and can't farm as fast, his ultimate plus a blink and a force can change games entirely. It's an extreme amount of lockdown, even if you have to be sub melee range to use it. | ||
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Joni_
Germany352 Posts
Vision generated by firefly, scouting with napalm and nuke are just amazing around rosh (and a lot of lategame comes down to fighting around rosh), he is strong against bkbs, very mobile (heroes that synergize with BoT are very valuable lategame imo), his itemization is somewhat flexible after dagger, force and bkb so he is a decent hex carrier with potential for hex+refresher,.... just to name a few. Additionally it is very hard to shut a bat down so badly that it won't have any impact on the game anymore, esp if you dont happen to have some amazing counter hero like Venge, SD, LC or something like that. | ||
BluemoonSC
SoCal8910 Posts
just because a particular play doesn't work out in a given scenario doesn't mean it was the wrong choice..it simply didn't work out this time around. with so many hero combinations, its hard to say that the batrider is a bad pick unless you look at a much larger sample size. | ||
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
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Kreb
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On November 13 2014 02:06 Comeh wrote: Batrider essentially wins lategame because no matter how good your positioning is, this hero can kill you for free. He can destroy teams that want to turtle high ground, and if you buy back? Okay fine we'll back off for 60 seconds. Of course, thats assuming the batrider is a good player. linkens forces bat to waste force on linkens, vs swap / sd disruption / lc press the attack can all counterinitiate bat is good but not unbeatable | ||
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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
On November 14 2014 11:09 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: linkens forces bat to waste force on linkens, vs swap / sd disruption / lc press the attack can all counterinitiate bat is good but not unbeatable -_- .... 5 players are not going to all get linkens in a game. There will always be a target for a Batrider to go on. That's the strength of his kit. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
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Buckyman
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BluemoonSC
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Surprise.820
United Kingdom1276 Posts
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Wrath 2.1
Germany880 Posts
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
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Excludos
Norway8046 Posts
On November 15 2014 00:48 Wrath 2.1 wrote: Is there a way to disable the chat ? (and I don't mean the allchat or muting every player every time..) You mean steam chat? You can turn that to not pop up while playing in steam settings, or turn it off completely. I cant think of any other chat that doesn't include allchat or players | ||
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ChunderBoy
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On November 14 2014 21:09 Surprise.820 wrote: RE: new Bloodseeker jungling meme with new bloodrage; what are some good timings for items? (phase/treads into blademail/dagon etc) idk about item timings, but there is this 6.8k? guy that gets lvl 6 at around 4:20 | ||
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Surprise.820
United Kingdom1276 Posts
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unkkz
Norway2196 Posts
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BoZiffer
United States1841 Posts
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KOFgokuon
United States14893 Posts
On November 15 2014 04:55 unkkz wrote: Does aghanims doom disable stuff thats already active via toggling? Aka dusa manashield? with or without it will still be active, you just can't turn it off. For example, if morphling toggles on morph before he gets doomed, he will keep pumping up his str until doom runs out or he dies. same with rot and pudge, WD with heal etc | ||
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