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kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
March 09 2013 17:37 GMT
#7181
If I am going for a midas first on furion, what time (roughly) should I have the midas?
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
March 09 2013 17:56 GMT
#7182
It should only be affected by armor type (on the cleave)... so hitting siege units or towers should get reduced splash damage (though towers have 0 splash when you hit them).
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2914 Posts
March 09 2013 23:45 GMT
#7183
On March 10 2013 02:37 kollin wrote:
If I am going for a midas first on furion, what time (roughly) should I have the midas?


I don't have the exact timing but really it's not important either way. Furion farms in the jungle and unless you are disturbed (which almost neverhappens) it should be about the same timing all the time so the exact minute is irrelevant.
Get midas if you feel your team can hold the enemy for a while otherwise skip it and start pushing towers.
If you feel you fail at jungling practice your treant micro instead of worring about timings.
Unity, support, family, and kneecapping bitches.
Gefen
Profile Joined November 2011
Israel12 Posts
March 10 2013 01:04 GMT
#7184
Is there any recommended guide (written or youtube) for 4th or 5th spots?

I need some kind of more advanced guide, I mean, not something like

"It's okay you die to save other", "Your job is the spread those wards", "Don't take farm of the carry" etc..

I'm looking more to get into the mind set of the top support players, if it actually means something.
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
March 10 2013 01:27 GMT
#7185
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=377503
Cyx.
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada806 Posts
March 10 2013 03:06 GMT
#7186
On March 10 2013 02:37 kollin wrote:
If I am going for a midas first on furion, what time (roughly) should I have the midas?


7 minutes is a good time to aim for. If you're worse than that you need to work on jungling more efficiently, or stop trying to tp gank and failing (usually my problem when I get my midas late on furion lol)
Jollem
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden4 Posts
March 10 2013 03:45 GMT
#7187
Why isn't Luna picked up very much as a hard carry? both her laning presence, her early game, mid game and late game are really good, the hero works good in both dual and solo short?
yes
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
March 10 2013 03:57 GMT
#7188
?

she's being picked quite a bit
MSGHero
Profile Joined December 2012
United States147 Posts
March 10 2013 04:20 GMT
#7189
On March 10 2013 12:45 Jollem wrote:
Why isn't Luna picked up very much as a hard carry? both her laning presence, her early game, mid game and late game are really good, the hero works good in both dual and solo short?

Because she's banned a lot?
Random_Guy09
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1010 Posts
March 10 2013 13:43 GMT
#7190
On March 10 2013 12:45 Jollem wrote:
Why isn't Luna picked up very much as a hard carry? both her laning presence, her early game, mid game and late game are really good, the hero works good in both dual and solo short?


Because when she was being picked up teams were gearing towards early pushing strats and her aura allowed for that. Now the meta has kind of shifted away from that abit. Now its more ganking orientated because of the increase they gave to hero gold.

Now its get a line up that can push towers early and/or that has good team fight and try and go around the map getting into team fights when ever you think you have an advantage.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
March 10 2013 14:10 GMT
#7191
^
thats exactly where Luna is good..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8942 Posts
March 10 2013 14:59 GMT
#7192
On March 10 2013 12:45 Jollem wrote:
Why isn't Luna picked up very much as a hard carry? both her laning presence, her early game, mid game and late game are really good, the hero works good in both dual and solo short?

shes squishy and she gets banned
10734
Profile Joined September 2012
340 Posts
March 10 2013 15:06 GMT
#7193
Is a level 1 push possible? Just watched my brother play against lesh, LD, lycan and prophet, but he had kotl and jakiro on his team so it got shut down pretty easily.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
March 10 2013 15:21 GMT
#7194
sure, one time I was soloqueuing and we got throned at the 8 minute mark.
a level1 rosh followed by a 5 mid with strong pushing heroes can overwhelm pubs that dont have strong counterpush and dont know how to handle it.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-10 15:27:16
March 10 2013 15:22 GMT
#7195
The fastest you can get midas on prophet is probably ~6 minutes if you're involved in a first blood with a tp gank that doesn't interrupt your jungle route too much (yeah not likely...). If you open Ring of Basi/2 Mana pots and manage mana/don't block camps then it should be around 7 minutes. A lot harder on Radiant if the support is pulling camps whereas on dire you can do the small camp->mid/large pull most of the time and can conserve mana for clearing those camps. Just whatever you do please don't get teleport at level 1 and do the dumb thing where you auto attack from a pillar. The only thing that is good for is sniping courier at lvl 1-2 and possibly teleganking with TP/Sprout at lvl 2 but it will hella delay your midas no matter what anyone tells you.
Spoink
Profile Joined December 2012
Austria150 Posts
March 10 2013 17:53 GMT
#7196
Could anyone pls link me a Guide to start with.
Thanks in advance!
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34510 Posts
March 10 2013 18:03 GMT
#7197
On March 11 2013 02:53 Spoink wrote:
Could anyone pls link me a Guide to start with.
Thanks in advance!

Guide to what? To Dota in general or to any specific hero or mechanic?
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Thienan567
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States670 Posts
March 10 2013 19:48 GMT
#7198
If PL gets battlefury does his illusions get cleave? Obv they don't get the dmg but do they get the cleave? Does it stack with manaburn?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 10 2013 19:56 GMT
#7199
Cleave is not an orb effect and stacks properly with orb effects.

Illusions don't get cleave.
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Spoink
Profile Joined December 2012
Austria150 Posts
March 10 2013 21:06 GMT
#7200
On March 11 2013 03:03 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 02:53 Spoink wrote:
Could anyone pls link me a Guide to start with.
Thanks in advance!

Guide to what? To Dota in general or to any specific hero or mechanic?


General and maybe one hero i can start with. Just some basic stuff.
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