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On March 01 2013 15:51 Arisen wrote:
When going for axe jungle, what are your goals; both in terms of play and build.
For playstyle; I have been creep stacking and hitting a fast 3 and harassing with hunger a lot, and doing a lot of ganks and pressure.
For Build: I Usually build a fast Poor man's shield into a treads, then go for a battlefury. I"m pretty sure this isn't ideal, but it's just what I've been doing. It feels like you're weak for awhile before you get your BF assembled and my regen is pretty bad (both mana and health)
Your build is pretty bad =P I would probably flame you if you went treads battlefury on axe. Your health regen problems in the jungle can be solved with tranquil boots, and maybe even open bottle and bottlecrowing/trying to contest runes to help you out if you feel you're really low - the boots should be good for health though, and then you should just try to be more efficient with your mana. Don't pop it for harass until you're out of mana - save enough for a battle hunger or two + call for when you really mean to gank.
Later on, blink is great on Axe. I generally get that when I play him in jungle or in lane - it's awesome initiation with call. After that focus on some HP and utility - you're not trying to be a lategame damage dealer or a farmer, which are the things battlefury is geared towards.
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Tranquils -> RoH -> Blink -> Soul Ring/Pipe works well. If you're manly enough you can also get Aghs over the Soul Ring and/or switch Tranquils for Mek+Arcanes.
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Lalalaland34510 Posts
Going ring of health after tranquils is kinda pointless. And although I can sorta see why you advocate going soul ring after blink, there are better and more slot efficient ways of getting mana. Best way is to bully your supports to get more arcanes for you.
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If you feel fine without the RoH / Soul Ring then by all means skip then. From my experience in pubs most of the time they're pretty darn useful.
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Lalalaland34510 Posts
If you're absolutely going to get soul ring because you don't feel like you can rely on your teammates, you should get it before blink. And in that case, soul ring plus tranquils should give you more than enough health regen without getting the ring of health.
Edit: make sure you're getting at minimum a magic stick as well, if you aren't already.
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What the crap do you do about bloodseeker's ult? I feel like he instantly wins mid the moment he hits level six.
I realise that some heroes can stun him and TP out, but even that gives him complete freefarm for a minute or so. Is it even worth staying in lane once he's got it?
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u usually need an arcanes anyway cus u run out of mana
pretty much the best build is mek or vg or hood + arcanes. an early tranq is nice but not necessary
bottle + arcanes is reasonable too if you're laning, but it doesn't work too well in the jungle
edit: most heroes can 1v1 bloodseeker after he's 6, you don't need to tp out unless you're already low and can't fight him or you're out of position
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Lalalaland34510 Posts
On March 01 2013 17:06 Belisarius wrote:
What the crap do you do about bloodseeker's ult? I feel like he instantly wins mid the moment he hits level six.
I realise that some heroes can stun him and TP out, but even that gives him complete freefarm for a minute or so. Is it even worth staying in lane once he's got it?
Play a bit more safer, try to keep the lane closer to your tower. If he ults you, he has the run into tower range to fight you, so just man fight him back. And if you can't just tp out. Who cares if he gets free farm for a minute? It's a bloodseeker lol.
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is it just me, or you really cant see Troll on the mini map ?
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On March 01 2013 19:45 sandyph wrote:
is it just me, or you really cant see Troll on the mini map ?
yup been an odd bug for awhile (2 patch time now rofl).
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If you use those shitty icons then yes 
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Noob question here: How do you safe lane vs an offlane Kunkka + support dual offlane...
Can't stay in enough to get farm without getting splashed away by tidebringer!
for more general info, assume melee agi carry and range int support, vs Kunkka + int support (for example Anti-Mage + Jakiro vs Kunkka + Silencer)
Thx for any help!
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Just played a game, I was mid SF vs a bloodseeker. He had a stout shield and an axe, I had tango salve and some branches. I got barely any cs and souls because he does so much more damage. My question is, what should I do in a position like this? Stack some neutrals and raze them or something?
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On March 01 2013 23:26 10734 wrote:
Just played a game, I was mid SF vs a bloodseeker. He had a stout shield and an axe, I had tango salve and some branches. I got barely any cs and souls because he does so much more damage. My question is, what should I do in a position like this? Stack some neutrals and raze them or something?
Raze creepwaves and carry a tp to not get killed at 6, you could also try to gang with lvl 3 raze
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On March 01 2013 22:37 Verror wrote:
Noob question here: How do you safe lane vs an offlane Kunkka + support dual offlane...
Can't stay in enough to get farm without getting splashed away by tidebringer!
for more general info, assume melee agi carry and range int support, vs Kunkka + int support (for example Anti-Mage + Jakiro vs Kunkka + Silencer)
Thx for any help!
tranquils + roh obviously (into BF)
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On February 28 2013 04:14 Jollem wrote:
Why aren't dual laning mid popular?
llooooooooong time ago, dual midd was common 
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On March 01 2013 15:51 Arisen wrote:
When going for axe jungle, what are your goals; both in terms of play and build.
For playstyle; I have been creep stacking and hitting a fast 3 and harassing with hunger a lot, and doing a lot of ganks and pressure.
For Build: I Usually build a fast Poor man's shield into a treads, then go for a battlefury. I"m pretty sure this isn't ideal, but it's just what I've been doing. It feels like you're weak for awhile before you get your BF assembled and my regen is pretty bad (both mana and health)
Well, man this is a bad item build.
You should start with ring of defense + stout + tango
Then u stack + creep and u make tranquil boots for you 1st item..
If you need HP, you can buy a Vanguard (this istem is crap, but NOT on axe.
After Vanguard u have to get blink. Blink is really core item. Blink > Provoc > DoT > Ulti. With one or 2 proc its a sure kill !!
Then, i like to go Blade mail, but it's my choice
So, at 25mins u should have Tranquil / Vanguard / Blink / BladeMail and u aer unkillable.
If u want some fun, try Aghanim on Axe. 6 second ULT CD . 'Nuff said
edit : if you want more fun, play with a mate who pick Dazzle. Dazzle is Axe's Best friend. All skills are fucking good together
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On March 01 2013 23:26 10734 wrote:
Just played a game, I was mid SF vs a bloodseeker. He had a stout shield and an axe, I had tango salve and some branches. I got barely any cs and souls because he does so much more damage. My question is, what should I do in a position like this? Stack some neutrals and raze them or something?
even against a qb bloodseeker, it shouldnt be impossible to get a couple last hits. once you hit lvl 3 you can start razing for creeps, and at lvl 4 youll have higher dmg than him due to your necromastery. from then on its pretty easy
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On March 01 2013 15:51 Arisen wrote:
When going for axe jungle, what are your goals; both in terms of play and build.
For playstyle; I have been creep stacking and hitting a fast 3 and harassing with hunger a lot, and doing a lot of ganks and pressure.
For Build: I Usually build a fast Poor man's shield into a treads, then go for a battlefury. I"m pretty sure this isn't ideal, but it's just what I've been doing. It feels like you're weak for awhile before you get your BF assembled and my regen is pretty bad (both mana and health)
i'm a huge fan of axe, he's my favorite hero, and i play his jungle similar to yours with the playstyle. axe will never be a damage dealer via right click, so it's optimal to go for crowd control and survival. big fan of Tranq Boots for heal, blink, vanguard (obviously heart is preferable but not necessarily valid), blademail (works awesomely combined with berserker's call), and a shiva's guard late game if youre able to buy one (the mana and armor works well with axe's existing abilities)
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