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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 20:44:15
February 11 2013 20:42 GMT
#6601
Hey MSGHero, I think I played a game against you today! It was really painful tho, I was the enchantress with some ragey teammates. my ID was My Kingdom for a TP. you were playing Tinker I think.

Just had to post this because its a crazy coincidence :p (unless its someone else with the same ID)
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
MSGHero
Profile Joined December 2012
United States147 Posts
February 11 2013 21:50 GMT
#6602
On February 12 2013 05:42 PassiveAce wrote:
Hey MSGHero, I think I played a game against you today! It was really painful tho, I was the enchantress with some ragey teammates. my ID was My Kingdom for a TP. you were playing Tinker I think.

Just had to post this because its a crazy coincidence :p (unless its someone else with the same ID)

Yeah, that was me. I only random heroes I'm good with apparently haha. Our batrider was kinda bad, didn't lasso when I came top to gank; but yeah, your alch seemed like a dick. I reported him :D
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
February 11 2013 22:15 GMT
#6603
Your team was so well mannered in the face of complete dicketry lol.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
February 12 2013 02:40 GMT
#6604
In the beginning, is it common to put all four wards up? Are we only meant to put wards covering one rune spot or both?
No one ever remembers second place, eh? eh? GIVE ME COMMAND
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
February 12 2013 04:32 GMT
#6605
in most cases 2 wards should do, unless you want to block multiple camps to prevent jungle heroes from farming. always have 1 rune ward though or else your mid will be a sad panda.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17082 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-12 04:37:41
February 12 2013 04:36 GMT
#6606
On February 12 2013 11:40 Nazza wrote:
In the beginning, is it common to put all four wards up? Are we only meant to put wards covering one rune spot or both?


No, not at all. Remember that wards are on a timer. If you put four up, you might not have enough when the first night time rolls around at 6 to ward the important night-time ward spots (think places like across mid river, rune locations, various jungle locations). There could be some exceptions against enemy jungle heroes etc., but I don't think it's common to use four at the start.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
February 12 2013 05:21 GMT
#6607
On February 12 2013 13:36 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 11:40 Nazza wrote:
In the beginning, is it common to put all four wards up? Are we only meant to put wards covering one rune spot or both?


No, not at all. Remember that wards are on a timer. If you put four up, you might not have enough when the first night time rolls around at 6 to ward the important night-time ward spots (think places like across mid river, rune locations, various jungle locations). There could be some exceptions against enemy jungle heroes etc., but I don't think it's common to use four at the start.


The wards respawn before the 6 minute mark when you need to replace the rune wards.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
February 12 2013 05:35 GMT
#6608
when I log into dota it says "you have an outdated client, close dota and relaunch to install" but after I restart I get the message again. Any fixes?
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-12 05:37:13
February 12 2013 05:37 GMT
#6609
On February 12 2013 14:35 hacklebeast wrote:
when I log into dota it says "you have an outdated client, close dota and relaunch to install" but after I restart I get the message again. Any fixes?


Quit Steam and start it up again. It should download the new dota2 patch from there.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
February 12 2013 05:41 GMT
#6610
i feel silly now...

ty
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infam
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany66 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-12 06:32:34
February 12 2013 06:29 GMT
#6611
On February 12 2013 14:21 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 13:36 Empyrean wrote:
On February 12 2013 11:40 Nazza wrote:
In the beginning, is it common to put all four wards up? Are we only meant to put wards covering one rune spot or both?


No, not at all. Remember that wards are on a timer. If you put four up, you might not have enough when the first night time rolls around at 6 to ward the important night-time ward spots (think places like across mid river, rune locations, various jungle locations). There could be some exceptions against enemy jungle heroes etc., but I don't think it's common to use four at the start.


The wards respawn before the 6 minute mark when you need to replace the rune wards.

You could also save up 1 ward every time and have 6 wards at minute 12 when shit is about to go down.
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-12 14:59:22
February 12 2013 13:51 GMT
#6612
Been playing lots of Storm Spirit, how do you deal with Clinkz? Seems like a natural counter. Once he gets Orchid up, he just shows up beside me, silences, and kills me before i can do anything or escape. Drow with Shadow blade is pretty brutal too. Any silence hurts, but the DPS of those 2 is usually high enough to outright kill me before I get my ulti back. Fast sheepstick perhaps?

Also are wand + null talisman worth getting on Storm? My item build right now is mantle, tango + 3 branches to start (wand if im vs Bat, Zeus, SD, etc). Get bottle asap, then start working towards first major item, either bloodstone, orchid, or linken's depending on the game (more often than not I do bloodstone). Are talisman and wand worth getting here or do they just delay my core items too much? edit: also mana boots / power treads usually fit in there
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VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
February 12 2013 14:20 GMT
#6613
On February 12 2013 22:51 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Been playing lots of Storm Spirit, how do you deal with Clinkz? Seems like a natural counter. Once he gets Orchid up, he just shows up beside me, silences, and kills me before i can do anything or escape. Drow with Shadow blade is pretty brutal too. Any silence hurts, but the DPS of those 2 is usually high enough to outright kill me before I get my ulti back. Fast sheepstick perhaps?

Also are wand + null talisman worth getting on Storm? My item build right now is mantle, tango + 3 branches to start (wand if im vs Bat, Zeus, SD, etc). Get bottle asap, then start working towards first major item, either bloodstone, orchid, or linken's depending on the game (more often than not I do bloodstone). Are talisman and wand worth getting here or do they just delay my core items too much?

Ur natural counter is not clinckz, it's Silencer :D

In fact Storm Spirit becomes vulnerable when he is silence, there is nothing to do when u already are silence. U have to prevent yourself.
best advice ? KEEP MOVING :D
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Porkz
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark1027 Posts
February 12 2013 14:48 GMT
#6614
Or buy a bkb
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TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
February 12 2013 15:03 GMT
#6615
On February 12 2013 23:20 VelJa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 22:51 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Been playing lots of Storm Spirit, how do you deal with Clinkz? Seems like a natural counter. Once he gets Orchid up, he just shows up beside me, silences, and kills me before i can do anything or escape. Drow with Shadow blade is pretty brutal too. Any silence hurts, but the DPS of those 2 is usually high enough to outright kill me before I get my ulti back. Fast sheepstick perhaps?

Also are wand + null talisman worth getting on Storm? My item build right now is mantle, tango + 3 branches to start (wand if im vs Bat, Zeus, SD, etc). Get bottle asap, then start working towards first major item, either bloodstone, orchid, or linken's depending on the game (more often than not I do bloodstone). Are talisman and wand worth getting here or do they just delay my core items too much?

Ur natural counter is not clinckz, it's Silencer :D

In fact Storm Spirit becomes vulnerable when he is silence, there is nothing to do when u already are silence. U have to prevent yourself.
best advice ? KEEP MOVING :D

Silencer is easy. Unlike Clinkz / drow he doesn't have the DPS to insta-kill me before the silence wears off.

On February 12 2013 23:48 Porkz wrote:
Or buy a bkb

Clinkz, in his invis mode (or drow with shadow blade) sneaks up on me, silences with orchid, and proceeds to kill me with a barrage of arrows long before I can do anything. Not sure what BKB would do..? As far as I know BKB doesn't dispell an item's silence thats already on me. I'd consider Shadow blade way before I considered BKB. Is it worth getting on storm tho?
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
February 12 2013 15:04 GMT
#6616
BKB does dispell the silence
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TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
February 12 2013 15:15 GMT
#6617
On February 13 2013 00:04 Qbek wrote:
BKB does dispell the silence

O_o the more you know....is it still worth getting over shadow blade though? Shadow blade is cheaper and gives better stats, and this invis seems better than BKB's magic immunity in terms of 1v1 escape mechanism.
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Baggage
Profile Joined October 2012
Hong Kong593 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-12 15:18:55
February 12 2013 15:16 GMT
#6618
You might also want to consider getting a gem. The point of storm is to roll in a pick somebody off. If Drow gets a shadowblade and plays a lot more risky by virtue of invisibility, just get a gem, roll in with a team mate and punish her.

Linkens is good for the single target silences. Ghost scepter isn't ideal, but reasonable if you are really far behind. BKB is the best, and it does dispel silences.

Edit: Shadowblade mediocre on Storm and is really counter-intuitive to Storm play. BKB allows you to roll and snipe key heroes. You might also want to consider improving your Storm micro, and training yourself to dodge AoE silences. It's tough, but doable when you have 2 good mana regen items. Euls is also a better alternative that's cheaper than Shadowblade and has stats you need.
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LSF
Profile Joined April 2012
469 Posts
February 12 2013 15:30 GMT
#6619
What happens if you don't click accept or decline when you've found a match? Does the game auto-choose one
option after some time?
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
February 12 2013 15:34 GMT
#6620
Auto declines. Would be silly to auto accept.
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