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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
December 30 2012 22:32 GMT
#5581
On December 31 2012 07:17 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2012 06:52 Erasme wrote:
On December 31 2012 05:53 Amridell wrote:
On December 31 2012 05:45 bluehawky wrote:
On December 31 2012 05:23 Amridell wrote:
Hey, I play suicide lane for my team, and get absolutely dismantled by silencer. How do I lane against this guy without being destroyed? Do I just buy 5758562927 sets of tangos or something?


Past the fact that silencer is actually banned from CM Mode, If situations are Ideal you would want to lane a hero that can easily remove his last words and preferably has some form of good escape mechanic.


So which hero can remove last word? Weaver I guess.

Also, we practice in pubs, where he's everywhere.

still deals damage, you can die before using ur spell lmao
but furion is the only who can do it safely.

Not 100% sure, but because the silence/damage happens after the cast, spells that make you invulnerable avoid damage from Last Word (e.g. Faceless is invulnerable during Time Walk).

I always thought damage was before cast but silence was after cast. Can anyone confirm?
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
December 30 2012 22:44 GMT
#5582
damage is applied before the spell takes action. eg sd and od will still take damage but will dodge the silence (more or less)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-30 22:48:55
December 30 2012 22:45 GMT
#5583
On December 31 2012 07:32 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2012 07:17 TheYango wrote:
On December 31 2012 06:52 Erasme wrote:
On December 31 2012 05:53 Amridell wrote:
On December 31 2012 05:45 bluehawky wrote:
On December 31 2012 05:23 Amridell wrote:
Hey, I play suicide lane for my team, and get absolutely dismantled by silencer. How do I lane against this guy without being destroyed? Do I just buy 5758562927 sets of tangos or something?


Past the fact that silencer is actually banned from CM Mode, If situations are Ideal you would want to lane a hero that can easily remove his last words and preferably has some form of good escape mechanic.


So which hero can remove last word? Weaver I guess.

Also, we practice in pubs, where he's everywhere.

still deals damage, you can die before using ur spell lmao
but furion is the only who can do it safely.

Not 100% sure, but because the silence/damage happens after the cast, spells that make you invulnerable avoid damage from Last Word (e.g. Faceless is invulnerable during Time Walk).

I always thought damage was before cast but silence was after cast. Can anyone confirm?


You are silenced and damaged when you cast.

On December 31 2012 07:44 Erasme wrote:
damage is applied before the spell takes action. eg sd and od will still take damage but will dodge the silence (more or less)


You are silenced even when you astral yourself.

Tested void and OD. Don't feel like fishing anymore.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
December 31 2012 01:10 GMT
#5584
Not sure if this is the right place to ask but... oh well: How long should I play against BOTS in DotA2 before venturing into matchmaking? I've played probably 10 or so games with a few heros working on last hitting as well as watching a bunch of videos on how to lane and pull and solo-mid and all those nuanced things (for a beginner anyway). When should I take the plunge? Is there any sort of macro-benchmarks I should be hitting against the BOTS before I go into pub play? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-31 01:18:03
December 31 2012 01:17 GMT
#5585
The only benchmarks is hero & item knowledge to be honest. If you're not too sure how majority of heroes work you can get caught off guard. You could just wing it no big deal, or try to keep playing until you stomp easy/mid bots in lane and so forth.

Try not to play overly aggressive early on and dive towers, reason being if you die way early you could start getting flamed by your teammates which is annoying. Then having to play a game with any teammate muted is a disadvantage. Just be nice and play your game, mute flamers, continue to learn and have fun. Good luck!
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
December 31 2012 01:40 GMT
#5586
On December 31 2012 10:10 BoZiffer wrote:
Not sure if this is the right place to ask but... oh well: How long should I play against BOTS in DotA2 before venturing into matchmaking? I've played probably 10 or so games with a few heros working on last hitting as well as watching a bunch of videos on how to lane and pull and solo-mid and all those nuanced things (for a beginner anyway). When should I take the plunge? Is there any sort of macro-benchmarks I should be hitting against the BOTS before I go into pub play? Any thoughts would be appreciated.


Hard Bots will play about 10x better than any newbie ladder games you get thrown into.

I'd say as long as you got a nice lockdown on how to last hit, just go into matchmaking. Don't try to pussyfoot around it and just take the plunge. You will suck a bit, but it's part of the process.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8875 Posts
December 31 2012 03:28 GMT
#5587
Puck is good against silencer
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
December 31 2012 11:34 GMT
#5588
On December 31 2012 06:54 Count9 wrote:
Not strat question, but is there a way go have the client open in native resolution? I play on a laptop that has 16-9 native but I also plug that laptop in to a monitor that's 16:10 so I have to change resolution every time I play (well I don't have to, but I like native resolution). Just wondering if there's a good way to do this, perhaps with autoexec file. Not the biggest deal, but the picking screen doesn't change resolutions until a client restart and sometimes my game crashes when I change resolution so ite's quite annoying.

You could try to use the launch options and fiddle around with that. Rightclick in your steam library, Properties, "Set Launch Options".

As an example of what I'm using (I'm forcing the game to run in 16: 9 instead of my native 16:10 because 16: 9 displays more of the action on the screen) "-windowed -noborder -h 1440 -w 2560" ... just adjust the numbers for what you'd like to have and see how it goes.

Random tip since there might be lots of new people around since TI2: if you use "-international" in the launch options you get the sexy calming blue TI2 loading screen instead of the evil rage-inducing red one. =P
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
December 31 2012 13:31 GMT
#5589
Oh, i did not know that, thanks r.Evo :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Phyre
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1288 Posts
December 31 2012 15:44 GMT
#5590
I've only just recently started looking to get really better at DotA2 and was curious if there is an equivalent of Day9 for DotA2? Someone that does some strategic commentary and perhaps fpvods to help take gameplay to the next level. The only one I've found so far is Purgegamers youtube channel.
"Oh no, I got you with your pants... on your face... That's not how you wear pants." - Nintu, catching 1 hatch lurks.
Rodberd
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany531 Posts
December 31 2012 16:01 GMT
#5591
maybe TobiWan from joinDOTA could be sth like Day9 is for SC2.

but i would say its a matter of taste too
Ooooh, look at it go
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
December 31 2012 16:05 GMT
#5592
I don't think TobiWan will ever be the Day9 of Dota. He's a good caster, but Day9's show focuses on teaching people how to play SC2 better by analysing their play etc. Tobi doesn't do that.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-31 16:16:04
December 31 2012 16:14 GMT
#5593
what FB said. They are two totally different kinds of shows, Day[9] is also known for being an exceptional zerg who won his fame on the WCG circuit, I think he was A rank on ICCUP. While Tobi... is known for his gloves first furion.

It would be wonderful to see a strong player step up and make a show dedicated to helping improve players game.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
December 31 2012 16:29 GMT
#5594
Well........in the meantime, that's what this thread is for! Once I get a beast computer to be able to stream, I would love to do an educational show for newcomers. One of the many 2013 goals, soon to come. Currently coaching PainUser and co for free.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
December 31 2012 16:39 GMT
#5595
I will add that although my stream isn't an 'educational show for Dota', I started it with the intention to teach Dota. For example, if you were to come in and ask 'hey tell me about item choices', I would go into a long rant explaining it all very carefully, perhaps playing a hero of your choice to help illustrate what choices I make and why.
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-31 16:54:17
December 31 2012 16:52 GMT
#5596
On January 01 2013 01:01 Rodberd wrote:
maybe TobiWan from joinDOTA could be sth like Day9 is for SC2.

but i would say its a matter of taste too

The only person that could fill that role would be someone like Merlini. AKA, retired ex-professional who still understands the game.
Tobi knows absolutely nothing about DotA on a deeper level and he is really, really bad at the game. Just try to remember his tutorial on furion, his most played hero..
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
December 31 2012 17:42 GMT
#5597
When AB is playing Lone Druid he has a circle around him showing the distance his bear can be from him and still attacking. How to do this?
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
December 31 2012 19:20 GMT
#5598
On January 01 2013 01:52 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 01:01 Rodberd wrote:
maybe TobiWan from joinDOTA could be sth like Day9 is for SC2.

but i would say its a matter of taste too

The only person that could fill that role would be someone like Merlini. AKA, retired ex-professional who still understands the game.
Tobi knows absolutely nothing about DotA on a deeper level and he is really, really bad at the game. Just try to remember his tutorial on furion, his most played hero..

I'd be very pleased if Merlini did something like a show :D
:)
Pseudoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1279 Posts
December 31 2012 21:35 GMT
#5599
On January 01 2013 02:42 bardtown wrote:
When AB is playing Lone Druid he has a circle around him showing the distance his bear can be from him and still attacking. How to do this?


console command: dota_range_display <range>
ex. dota_range_display 1000
Logic fails because we are lazy.
Poetry
Profile Joined April 2011
United States105 Posts
December 31 2012 21:53 GMT
#5600
Is it true that using blink dagger farther than its actual range results in a blink that's shorter than its maximum range? Like it can go up to 1200 units, but if I click on a distance > 1200 units away, do I blink 1200 towards it or some smaller distance?
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