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KwoM
Profile Joined October 2012
Singapore108 Posts
October 15 2012 14:33 GMT
#4381
On October 15 2012 16:50 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 08:44 YunhOLee wrote:
blink vs backstab on riki, which one do you max first and is it matchup (lane) dependent? or we always max blink or always max backstab first?

Mid lane is always blink first. Side lane depends on your line up. If your lane partner or supports can hold down the opponents easily then go backstab, if you need more mobility to reach the enemy heroes then go blink.


I would highly recommend always getting blink first it gives good damage increase and the cooldown is really significant, you can blink to teammates also
KwoM
Profile Joined October 2012
Singapore108 Posts
October 15 2012 14:59 GMT
#4382
On October 15 2012 20:29 Dustytusk wrote:
Ok i have 1 quick question.

When i have my beta key, where does the information (that i got the beta key) come? Like does it come to steam mails or???


It's through emails to your account. A little confusing as to number of beta keys you get from them though.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
October 15 2012 16:29 GMT
#4383
On October 15 2012 20:29 Dustytusk wrote:
Ok i have 1 quick question.

When i have my beta key, where does the information (that i got the beta key) come? Like does it come to steam mails or???

I would just check my Steam once in a while and see if it's in the Library list. I never got a mail from Steam for my DotA 2 (also wasn't in my spam filters) but it just was suddenly there. <3
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34501 Posts
October 15 2012 16:35 GMT
#4384
On October 15 2012 23:59 KwoM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 20:29 Dustytusk wrote:
Ok i have 1 quick question.

When i have my beta key, where does the information (that i got the beta key) come? Like does it come to steam mails or???


It's through emails to your account. A little confusing as to number of beta keys you get from them though.

If you cbf to wait, here you go: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=365276
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boxman22
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada430 Posts
October 15 2012 16:46 GMT
#4385
Is it possible to get eth blade on a hero like drow, silencer, or pudge? Basically anyone other than morph? (and morph is worse now too)
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 15 2012 16:48 GMT
#4386
On October 16 2012 01:46 boxman22 wrote:
Is it possible to get eth blade on a hero like drow, silencer, or pudge? Basically anyone other than morph? (and morph is worse now too)

Possible? Of course. Actually usable? Not really
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8812 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-15 17:56:39
October 15 2012 17:00 GMT
#4387
On October 16 2012 01:46 boxman22 wrote:
Is it possible to get eth blade on a hero like drow, silencer, or pudge? Basically anyone other than morph? (and morph is worse now too)

none of them can take advantage of the ethereal state, unlike morph who has 2 nukes
i would actually consider eblade on pudge though, if youre dominating the game and have ridiculous amounts of str
eblade>hook>dismember should be interesting

solo mid int heroes can get it now though
heroes like qop, who was occasionally seen with eblade before the change, now have better reason to get it
MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
October 15 2012 18:11 GMT
#4388
when playing support should you literally leave all the farm for your carry?
How do you get anything if you cant pull camps due to denying well?
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 15 2012 18:14 GMT
#4389
On October 16 2012 03:11 MrTortoise wrote:
when playing support should you literally leave all the farm for your carry?
How do you get anything if you cant pull camps due to denying well?

Mostly ganks. If your carry doesn't need pulls chances are you can either get a kill on the lane or just leave it to gank mid.
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MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
October 15 2012 18:23 GMT
#4390
On October 16 2012 03:14 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2012 03:11 MrTortoise wrote:
when playing support should you literally leave all the farm for your carry?
How do you get anything if you cant pull camps due to denying well?

Mostly ganks. If your carry doesn't need pulls chances are you can either get a kill on the lane or just leave it to gank mid.


Hmm nice point, i dont gank mid enough. Also maybe im being too passive in lane .... I get a lot of harass in but dont often really go for setting up the kill.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-15 18:44:05
October 15 2012 18:42 GMT
#4391
On October 16 2012 03:11 MrTortoise wrote:
when playing support should you literally leave all the farm for your carry?
How do you get anything if you cant pull camps due to denying well?

You generally pick up some farm midgame. Particularly as your team will have gankers that become active after about 6 or 7 minutes, there will often be free lanes that you can clean up for some gold/XP while the laner is ganking another lane.

During laning, you will usually operate on minimal farm. It's not uncommon for supports to have virtually nothing for the first 10 minutes, get boots around 10 minutes, and then subsequently have a much more normal rate of development due to having room to get a little bit of lane farm and some jungle camps.
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Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-15 18:55:40
October 15 2012 18:54 GMT
#4392
On October 16 2012 03:11 MrTortoise wrote:
when playing support should you literally leave all the farm for your carry?
How do you get anything if you cant pull camps due to denying well?


You need SOME farm, enough to at least get regular boots early on so you can roam and not be fish food for the other team. It's hard if the lane is going bad, you shouldn't leave to pull if the Carry is getting slaughtered alone. Just talk with him/her, even a few hits to get boots is important.

Then late game build 5 divine rapiers. Yango approved strategy.
Cirn9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1117 Posts
October 15 2012 22:37 GMT
#4393
Favorite Tide items?
Unprotected sex is like fast expanding in close positions. Its risky, but feels great when it works out
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 15 2012 22:52 GMT
#4394
i really like the shark hat
dmg7
Profile Joined June 2011
101 Posts
October 15 2012 22:52 GMT
#4395
Wondering if anyone got any suggestions for starting items with PA? And any suggestions for late late game item builds?
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
October 15 2012 23:21 GMT
#4396
Stout, Tango, Potion, 3x GG Branch. Try to get Ring of Health asap from side-shop, skill Dagger if you're getting zoned and need to safely get last hits. Battlefury is the weapon of choice.

Late game - Battlefury, BKB, Satanic, Abyssal Blade. 5th/6th item can be anything after this imo.
Soluhwin
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1287 Posts
October 15 2012 23:30 GMT
#4397
On October 16 2012 08:21 Slardar wrote:
Stout, Tango, Potion, 3x GG Branch. Try to get Ring of Health asap from side-shop, skill Dagger if you're getting zoned and need to safely get last hits. Battlefury is the weapon of choice.

Late game - Battlefury, BKB, Satanic, Abyssal Blade. 5th/6th item can be anything after this imo.

For clarification:
Battlefury lets you farm. The cleave it provides is not for killing heros, but for killing creeps in jungle / flash farming lanes faster.

BKB lets you stay safe in the middle of an enemy team. Only skip this if the other team has 0 stuns.

Satanic lets you build your damage into survivability, so it's generally ill-advised to get it before your damage is out of control.

A-Blade gives insane damage and the passive stun synergies incredibly well with your attack speed boost.

I'd say build in the order Slardar listed, but don't build the full satanic (just build the helm of the dominator) until after the A-Blade.
I put the sexy in dyslexia.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
October 16 2012 01:07 GMT
#4398
On October 16 2012 03:11 MrTortoise wrote:
when playing support should you literally leave all the farm for your carry?
How do you get anything if you cant pull camps due to denying well?

You are usually free to lasthit pulled creeps, get lasthits your(melee) carry can´t get and once laning starts to dissolve you are free to lasthit on lanes you previously ganked/empty lanes.
Aside from that mostly gold and assist or kill gold for supporters usually.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
LazyFailKid
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada750 Posts
October 17 2012 06:03 GMT
#4399
Since i'm filling up the GD thread with small questions for some reason ill just continue here. Why dont more people get blademail if it reflects full damage? It seems like for a cheap 2.2k you can just totally dominate the enemy carry and pretty much any high burst damage hero later.
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 06:11:43
October 17 2012 06:11 GMT
#4400
BKB blocks it, and you can just not damage the hero as it is active.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
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