EPTOn October 10 2012 05:50 wcLLg wrote:
Why is Jakiro so popular now in the competitive scene?
Why is Jakiro so popular now in the competitive scene?
The recent patch made him a significantly more viable pick.
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
The recent patch made him a significantly more viable pick. | ||
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wcLLg
United States281 Posts
On October 10 2012 05:52 PassiveAce wrote: The recent patch made him a significantly more viable pick. I meant to ask what in particular made him an op pick since the patch?--he seems like the same exact hero; Was he good before and just needed a tweak on how Ice Path worked? Is it really that good? Is it just a trend or do you think he's here to stay? | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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da_head
Canada3350 Posts
On October 10 2012 06:26 flamewheel wrote: Bit smoother, better ice patch. Same hero. Just trending. that's a bit of an understatement. the ice path is WAYY better. it's pretty much a fissure that doesn't fuck over your teammates. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
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Slardar
Canada7596 Posts
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YunhOLee
Canada2470 Posts
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
I would like to know. | ||
TheEmulator
28103 Posts
On October 10 2012 06:26 flamewheel wrote: Bit smoother, better ice patch. Same hero. Just trending. Trending like crazy. But I agree, it is not that much better. | ||
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TheEmulator
28103 Posts
On October 10 2012 12:56 YunhOLee wrote: can storm spirit dodge vipers ultimate with his ball lightning? I would assume so. Maybe depending on how far you go? | ||
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Mythra
New Zealand274 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8937 Posts
vlads is gotten cause of the pushing power it provides the illusions dont benefit from the vlads but they carry the aura, meaning creeps do benefit from vlads even when the hero isnt there | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 10 2012 14:25 Mythra wrote: I'm just wondering does vlads do anything on illusions? cause i see some people that get it on naga or ck but i thought vlads doesnt help illusions at all. Also does the crit from deadlus work on illusions aswell? Vlad's doesn't work on Illusions. However, Vlad's can still be situationally a good item for Illusion heroes, as by lategame, a large portion of your damage still comes from your main body and not your illusions. You'd often rather have someone else get it for you, though. | ||
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sandyph
Indonesia1640 Posts
I usually start with Mantle and 3 GG branch then turned them into Wand and Threads. Then Force Staff, BKB and Agh which is the core I was told. But after that Im stuck, I tried to get more Int (Sheepstick, RoA) but I found him to be very squishy and can be killed really quick in a team fight. If I build Heart it would probably give him a little more lasting power but would not be beneficial to his Ulti | ||
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KwoM
Singapore108 Posts
On October 10 2012 14:12 TheEmulator wrote: I would assume so. Maybe depending on how far you go? It depends on the timing like i've managed to dodge laguna before. For those kind of spells it's a bit of luck but like viper strike if you're quick enough on your fingers you can. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 10 2012 15:39 sandyph wrote: been trying OD, what would a good item build be ? I usually start with Mantle and 3 GG branch then turned them into Wand and Threads. Then Force Staff, BKB and Agh which is the core I was told. But after that Im stuck, I tried to get more Int (Sheepstick, RoA) but I found him to be very squishy and can be killed really quick in a team fight. If I build Heart it would probably give him a little more lasting power but would not be beneficial to his Ulti There are two major routes of item development for OD. One is faster to develop into fighting items, the other is slower, but is also necessary if your team does not have a Mek carrier because the Mek is invaluable for your team. Faster: Tranquils->Janggo->Force Staff Slower: Treads->Mek->Force Staff Wand as appropriate in either build After that, BKB and Sheepstick are both appropriate choices (BKB for straight-up teamfight power, Sheepstick for chasing power and damage-dealing ability with more Intelligence). Late-game your choices include: - Shiva's (smoothest armor source for OD to buy) - Ghost Scepter (good for fighting right-click carries, as you can still manual-cast orb through Ghost Scepter) - Heart (not just the HP, but by lategame, Tranquil's or Mek's HP regen doesn't cut it anymore--this lets you top up HP between fights, since your mana is virtually infinite at that point anyway) - Assault Cuirass (not as good as Shiva's for you personally, but carries a very high team benefit, particularly if your team has other physical DPS carries) - Refresher Orb (as a 6th item just go all out for this and double ult) Aghanim's hasn't been all that good on him for quite a while (it was much better for him a long time ago when it built out of Mystic Staff + Soul Booster). Practically speaking by the time you'd consider it, Refresher would probably be better overall anyway. EDIT: Also note that there's an annoying bug that Essence Aura doesn't proc properly off Tranquil Boots right now (it's supposed to). | ||
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eu.exodus
South Africa1186 Posts
So many heroes can shut you down so hard and everyone just focus fires an illusion. Before I knew it I was feeding a natures prophet so hard it was embarrassing. He just teleports, traps a clone focuses it down and Im dead. What should I be doing and what items should I be getting? | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
On October 10 2012 18:04 eu.exodus wrote: How are you supposed to play Meepo? Having clones that die to everything so quickly because they don't share your items seems like more of a burden than an advantage. So many heroes can shut you down so hard and everyone just focus fires an illusion. Before I knew it I was feeding a natures prophet so hard it was embarrassing. He just teleports, traps a clone focuses it down and Im dead. What should I be doing and what items should I be getting? http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/thread.php?id=777818 - it's all in there, no need to add more to that link. Enjoy. =) | ||
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eu.exodus
South Africa1186 Posts
On October 10 2012 18:09 r.Evo wrote: http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/thread.php?id=777818 - it's all in there, no need to add more to that link. Enjoy. =) thanks that helps a lot! anyone got replays of Meepo being used right? | ||
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Alex)
Scotland263 Posts
On October 10 2012 05:50 wcLLg wrote: Why is Jakiro so popular now in the competitive scene? Liquid fire got a massive aoe buff, ice path is now good (the spell before was just horrible) and I think his E can slow tower rate of fire by 50%? Its around there. With jakiro in a aoe comp there is a chance that you can get there whole team in your ultimate it does like 1000 damage if they stand in it for 7 seconds, thats insane damage. Think of enigma woods with dark seer solo hard and jakiro all on the same team. There is a chance for a massive wombo combo right there. I have not watched alot of competitive games recently (busy) but I think it is just EG using him? | ||
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