he's okay but takes way too much coordination to use properly
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
he's okay but takes way too much coordination to use properly | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Kotoko
Korea (South)43 Posts
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LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
On September 27 2012 14:57 sandyph wrote: Depends, if you going for other Orb effect beside lifesteal (Deso/Skadi/etc) then Vlad is the only way to get lifesteal while also giving bonus damage, armor and mana regenration for your team. and eventhough the illusions it self dont benefit from any of the aura, they do give the benefit to other units near the illusion. So if you ulti and send the illusion to 3 separate lane, all the lane will 'have a vlads' which will make pushing faster Skadi stacks with lifesteal Lifesteal isn't needed on most melee heroes Vlads is slot inefficent what it gives is inefficent for a selfish hero like CK (at least when you compare it to armlet/drums) CKs ulti is on a too long of a cooldown to use it to split push lanes. That's a minor benefit at best. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34501 Posts
On September 27 2012 17:34 LAN-f34r wrote: Skadi stacks with lifesteal Lifesteal isn't needed on most melee heroes Vlads is slot inefficent what it gives is inefficent for a selfish hero like CK (at least when you compare it to armlet/drums) CKs ulti is on a too long of a cooldown to use it to split push lanes. That's a minor benefit at best. Skadi only stacks with lifesteal on ranged heroes. | ||
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sandyph
Indonesia1640 Posts
On September 27 2012 17:34 LAN-f34r wrote: Skadi stacks with lifesteal Lifesteal isn't needed on most melee heroes Vlads is slot inefficent what it gives is inefficent for a selfish hero like CK (at least when you compare it to armlet/drums) CKs ulti is on a too long of a cooldown to use it to split push lanes. That's a minor benefit at best. Skadi only stack on ranged its situational, though most CK would go HotD rather than Deso/Diffu/Skadi/Mael/Mjol Its also cheaper for staying in the lane compared to Heart (especially if you're #2/#3) and carrying the Vlads for your #1 will mean he have an extra slot for other items a minor benefit true, but it's still a benefit | ||
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kinsky
Germany368 Posts
quick question guys: at the start of the game, do you guys first produce a worker or do you split them, send them to mine and THEN produce the first worker? thx in advance. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On September 27 2012 18:39 kinsky wrote: hihi, quick question guys: at the start of the game, do you guys first produce a worker or do you split them, send them to mine and THEN produce the first worker? thx in advance. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=187808 that's the thread you're looking for, this one is dota2 | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8812 Posts
who says hes weak? he was the most popular tri lane support for a while before the metagame changed and kinsky wrong game but producing first is better | ||
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Kishin2
United States7534 Posts
I tested it out personally and it does stack. | ||
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Bloodash
Netherlands1384 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8812 Posts
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On September 27 2012 20:29 Bloodash wrote: if rubick steals naga's ult and they both walk into eachother casting the ult, what happens? who sleeps who, are both ults canceled instantly? Doesn't Naga ult work like Epicenter, as in it will continue to go on even if Naga is disabled? I don't think there is a way to cancel it, or getting BKB on a hero with any disable would be an easy counter to it. With that in mind, but not actually testing anything, I would assume they both disable each other but both songs keep going. | ||
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infam
Germany66 Posts
On September 27 2012 20:29 Bloodash wrote: if rubick steals naga's ult and they both walk into eachother casting the ult, what happens? who sleeps who, are both ults canceled instantly? Once u activate it, it's like a buff, similar to epicenter after its channeled. So no disable can stop Naga ult. Would be interesting if u can purge it with SD or diffusal but i dont know if it works. | ||
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Bloodash
Netherlands1384 Posts
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cool_slowbro
Sweden97 Posts
On September 27 2012 20:29 Bloodash wrote: if rubick steals naga's ult and they both walk into eachother casting the ult, what happens? who sleeps who, are both ults canceled instantly? Most likely sleep eachother for their respective durations. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 27 2012 18:49 evilfatsh1t wrote: visage is very strong who says hes weak? he was the most popular tri lane support for a while before the metagame changed and kinsky wrong game but producing first is better Wasn't metagame change more than the fact that they completely fucked Soul Assumption's mana cost. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8812 Posts
in between ganks he has more than enough time to regen a fair amount of mana with a rob he was still used a lot even with that high mana cost,when global ganks with gargoyles and aa ice blast for example was a huge trend | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 28 2012 05:34 evilfatsh1t wrote: in a trilane visage doesnt need to use any other skill than soul asumption in between ganks he has more than enough time to regen a fair amount of mana with a rob he was still used a lot even with that high mana cost,when global ganks with gargoyles and aa ice blast for example was a huge trend As far as I remember, people still used him after the bump from 100->150 mana cost, but I don't remember him being used at all after the second nerf from 150->200 mana cost at rank 1 in 6.72. | ||
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LazyFailKid
Canada750 Posts
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