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DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
May 27 2015 22:12 GMT
#22021
Ok so there isn't some sort of "play" it's basically just don't suck and kill Doom.

Got it.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
May 27 2015 22:38 GMT
#22022
On May 28 2015 06:22 BluemoonSC wrote:
if you morph into dragon form while doom is casting doom, will he have to recast it? im not sure what you would call that interaction..but i know some heroes have spells that require that (storm + ball..but i dont think this is exactly similar?)

i dont think transforming into dragon form has any invulnerability frames, so i dont see why it would break the doom queue
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
May 27 2015 23:49 GMT
#22023
linkens euls storm is also really hard for their team to deal with
also just siege with pugna dk thats like impossible for them to deal with
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
May 28 2015 00:51 GMT
#22024
On May 28 2015 07:38 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2015 06:22 BluemoonSC wrote:
if you morph into dragon form while doom is casting doom, will he have to recast it? im not sure what you would call that interaction..but i know some heroes have spells that require that (storm + ball..but i dont think this is exactly similar?)

i dont think transforming into dragon form has any invulnerability frames, so i dont see why it would break the doom queue


yeah i wasnt sure if that was the case with the transformation. thanks!
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Tppz!
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1449 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-28 10:53:05
May 28 2015 10:51 GMT
#22025
How to deal with teammates who dont follow instructions or do the right move (eg getting tower/rax after a hugely won teamfight instead of chasing the last guy alive with 3+ guys while you as a support are going for the objectives?)
This cost me countless games at 3k mmr. Even as 5 man premade talking in skype.

Cant be just 'stop playing with them'.
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
May 28 2015 11:17 GMT
#22026
basically what I learned is that you have to DO what you asked them to do and just talk at them until they realize that you're leading the team. like if you win a team fight and just push a tower or go to the rosh pit and start pinging and saying "lets go guys, rosh rosh rosh" people generally get the idea..its not bc they don't know its good, its just because they think they should be doing something else instead, like farm bc items win games.

just don't overextend or they will stop listening to you
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
ThePianoDentist
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom698 Posts
May 28 2015 11:37 GMT
#22027
if you upgraded bots onto an invis hero, do enemies see you tp'ing in?
Brood War Protoss, SC2 Terran/Protoss
Tppz!
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1449 Posts
May 28 2015 12:10 GMT
#22028
On May 28 2015 20:17 BluemoonSC wrote:
basically what I learned is that you have to DO what you asked them to do and just talk at them until they realize that you're leading the team. like if you win a team fight and just push a tower or go to the rosh pit and start pinging and saying "lets go guys, rosh rosh rosh" people generally get the idea..its not bc they don't know its good, its just because they think they should be doing something else instead, like farm bc items win games.

just don't overextend or they will stop listening to you


Well we had 2 caller on the team and both said the same thing. "ok we won the fight, we have to get rax/tower/rosh now". then we said "stop chasing please. we should get the tower". what lead to "so we won a huge teamfight 4-0 and then we lost 2 towres and didnt get any objective at all. please listen". still happened again. its not like they are "special" or something. they just run like little kids when they ate too much candy. they seem not to be able to listen or just ignore cuase they maybe think "whatever - we won the teamfight - we can do this again - this game is won".
but well their carrys got farm after that and slowly we lost control over the game.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13032 Posts
May 28 2015 14:17 GMT
#22029
Can you steal supernova from the egg with rubick?
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
May 28 2015 14:23 GMT
#22030
On May 28 2015 23:17 SkelA wrote:
Can you steal supernova from the egg with rubick?


The egg doesn't count as a hero,so I don't think so.
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
May 28 2015 14:34 GMT
#22031
On May 28 2015 23:17 SkelA wrote:
Can you steal supernova from the egg with rubick?


I believe you need to wait for it to pop and before phoenix casts any additional spells immediately after (which they should if they're playing against a rubick )
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2552 Posts
May 28 2015 15:33 GMT
#22032
Can confirm, it's like pandabear split, you can't steal spells from the nonhero units.
Quochobao
Profile Joined October 2010
United States350 Posts
May 28 2015 19:03 GMT
#22033
Could anyone explain the basics of how steam workshop works? I see set creator promoting their sets on Reddit all the time. What's the point? is this simply to be approved to get into the game? What % of sets make it through? Those that don't make it, do they just do all the work for nothing?
Best or nothing.
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
May 28 2015 19:25 GMT
#22034
On May 29 2015 04:03 Quochobao wrote:
Could anyone explain the basics of how steam workshop works? I see set creator promoting their sets on Reddit all the time. What's the point? is this simply to be approved to get into the game? What % of sets make it through? Those that don't make it, do they just do all the work for nothing?

Depends on what stage it's in. If it hasn't been approved then yes, they are promoting it so it gets votes so it gets approved. But even if a set gets approved it doesn't necessarily actually make it into the game because Valve is in control of when items are released, unless it's an approved item that is part of a tournament bundle. Those still need to be approved but if they are approved then Valve will either release it automatically with a ticket or will generally release the tournament's chest/set at the appropriate time.

Some artists complain about this, even ones who have been quite successful, because they get a smaller percentage when they are working with an organization. If an artist releases a set that is, say, one out of six in a chest, they'll get 25%/6 of the chest's sales. I think (but am not sure) they do slightly higher percentages if yours is the rare/etc set but it's still out of a 25% pie. As you may know, TOs by default get 25% of ticket revenue etc. but they have to forego up to 12.5 points in order to get the pot share from 0 to 25% (Valve matches). Whatever the TO's share is, that is the pool from which the artist can get a cut. If an artist gets to release a set independently, they get the full 25%.

There's a whole lot more than this but I hope this gives you a basic idea. As for how many sets make it through I have no idea.

To give you an idea of how bad the problem is with a set being approved but not put in the game, this godlike Juggernaut set has been up for a year and approved a long time ago. Just in limbo.

I believe this Bulldog druid set was approved some time ago as well. Where is it? It is a mystery.

I'm not sure whether this bloodseeker set was approved or not but it's been up for several months and is pretty high quality.

If you look at just LiveWorkshop stuff they have a TON of unreleased stuff for one reason or another. The primary guy is Manny Lamas but in fact a team works on these sets and they have trouble getting high quality stuff released. You can imagine how hard it is for some artists to roll the dice on making workshop sets. According to Anuxi a lot of artists are just bailing on it because of the many factors that have made doing workshop items a very poor gamble.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Quochobao
Profile Joined October 2010
United States350 Posts
May 28 2015 19:49 GMT
#22035
On May 29 2015 04:25 FHDH wrote:
Some artists complain about this, even ones who have been quite successful, because they get a smaller percentage when they are working with an organization. If an artist releases a set that is, say, one out of six in a chest, they'll get 25%/6 of the chest's sales. I think (but am not sure) they do slightly higher percentages if yours is the rare/etc set but it's still out of a 25% pie. As you may know, TOs by default get 25% of ticket revenue etc. but they have to forego up to 12.5 points in order to get the pot share from 0 to 25% (Valve matches). Whatever the TO's share is, that is the pool from which the artist can get a cut. If an artist gets to release a set independently, they get the full 25%.
.


Wow, Valve takes a 75% cut? I've read Valve press release about how a lot of creators can work full time and earn good money from their economy, but this seems quite cut throat to me. How do people generally feel about this "industry"? I'd assume that only creators from developing countries can sustain their standards of living with this kind of work.
Best or nothing.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-28 19:50:26
May 28 2015 19:50 GMT
#22036
?
I'm pretty sure anuxi makes like >300k/year
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
May 28 2015 19:51 GMT
#22037
On May 29 2015 04:50 Sn0_Man wrote:
?
I'm pretty sure anuxi makes like >300k/year


fucking wut??!?!
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
May 28 2015 19:52 GMT
#22038
On May 29 2015 04:50 Sn0_Man wrote:
?
I'm pretty sure anuxi makes like >300k/year

I don't know how much Anuxi makes but I didn't say SHE wasn't doing well.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
May 28 2015 19:54 GMT
#22039
On May 29 2015 04:52 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:50 Sn0_Man wrote:
?
I'm pretty sure anuxi makes like >300k/year

I don't know how much Anuxi makes but I didn't say SHE wasn't doing well.

and i dont think sn0den was replying to u
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
May 28 2015 19:56 GMT
#22040
On May 29 2015 04:54 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 04:52 FHDH wrote:
On May 29 2015 04:50 Sn0_Man wrote:
?
I'm pretty sure anuxi makes like >300k/year

I don't know how much Anuxi makes but I didn't say SHE wasn't doing well.

and i dont think sn0den was replying to u

Ah well in that case, the point does remain that some artists do make quite a lot of money (Manny lives in SF which is crazy expensive) but it's a terrible thing to try and break into right now.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
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