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phantomlancer23
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
On January 05 2015 03:26 phantomlancer23 wrote: Is radiant arteezys block dead now?I mean when you sit in second stone and all creeps go right before the tier3 tower.Sorry if it is old news i hadnt played for weeks.Where is the best to sit now for blocking? Still works for me most of the time. | ||
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phantomlancer23
733 Posts
Ah i just did it.It seems more difficult now.I got over 90% success in older versions but now i dont know it became much harder something changed in pathing maybe. | ||
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
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BoZiffer
United States1841 Posts
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
On January 05 2015 06:40 BoZiffer wrote: Two mid questions: best mid to counter TA? Good mid options vs. Viper? I don't think there is a better counter to TA than Viper, at least among traditional mids. As far as Viper goes, this has come up before and I can't remember recommendations for "beating" Viper in lane but the consensus seemed to be to pick a hero that can get OK farm and will just be better for your team than Viper is for his. I think that is reasonable. Winning your lane isn't necessary to be in a position to win the game. If it was I'd be about 500 MMR higher right now. | ||
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FFGenerations
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On January 05 2015 07:27 FFGenerations wrote: qop is fine against viper imo QoP has a hard time leveling the low-level advantage she has against a lot of other heroes because of Corrosive Skin. Her level 1-3 strength relies on the efficiency of Shadow Strike and her high base damage, but Nethertoxin prevents her from really getting a lasthit advantage, and Corrosive Skin does more damage back to you than you deal with Shadow Strike at all ranks (on top of basically removing solo-kill possibilities with the high magic resistance). If the Viper is greedy and doesn't level Corrosive enough, you can look for a kill if he plays greedy, but otherwise, you're forced to play pretty passively and use Bottle-Crow + Scream. And if the Viper applies pressure to your Bottle timing well, it's really hard for you to stabilize. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14911 Posts
On January 05 2015 06:40 BoZiffer wrote: Two mid questions: best mid to counter TA? Good mid options vs. Viper? razor is pretty good vs TA, steal all her damage she can't do anything | ||
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
so much for my kda. look what u done to my cs http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1141349850 (maybe its just that ive only gotten english speakers today lol) | ||
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Kreb
4834 Posts
Honestly people should focus a bit less on countering mid heroes in lane though imo. The answer to "how to counter X" is pretty much always Viper/Razor/OD, but none of those three are statistically very good pub heroes. It's kinda hard to make an impact alone and you cant really snowball off your early farm advantage. Although they can be very effective with an organized team around them. | ||
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Jaeger
United States1150 Posts
On January 05 2015 18:36 Kreb wrote: Not an expert on the matchup exactly, but QoP should at least force the Viper to get a bottle with her Shadow Strike. Thats honestly a small win right there, Viper can and wants to skip bottle in many other matchups. Bottle-QoP vs non-bottle-Viper should be totally fine if not even hard for Viper. I don't follow your logic, shadow strike does more damage to QoP than viper and I don't see how it forces viper to get a bottle. FWIW the dotametrics 1v1 chart (a bit dated now) had the matchup as 77-23 in viper's favor. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://dotametrics.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/1v1matchupchart.png) | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
If it's rank 1 Shadow Strike only, the relative damage of Corrosive Skin and Shadow Strike makes it not worth casting after level 3 or 5. If QoP is maxing Shadow Strike, a QoP that maxes Shadow Strike is more of a liability than a Viper that got Bottle. | ||
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govie
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
If you rank up Blur a couple times with like 2 ranks in Dagger and Bottle, Viper basically stops being able to contest your farm because between Dagger, Stout, and evasion, he doesn't do enough damage to you. | ||
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zdarr
France375 Posts
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Jaeger
United States1150 Posts
On January 06 2015 02:20 zdarr wrote: Does the zeus chain lightning procc corrosive skin if it's not the main target ? If not, could it be a good response to lane-raping-viper as it is to lane-raping-silencer ? I'm pretty sure it does but I don't think it matters too much. IIRC corrosive doesn't cancel clarity so you can stand a safe distance away and last hit with arc lightning spam. Viper should never be able to get enough lane pressure to be able to tower dive you for a kill. | ||
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govie
9334 Posts
On January 06 2015 02:02 TheYango wrote: It's decent. I can't confidently say it's an outright win, but I think she at least gets enough out of the lane to make it worth it considering how much stronger than Viper she becomes later. If you rank up Blur a couple times with like 2 ranks in Dagger and Bottle, Viper basically stops being able to contest your farm because between Dagger, Stout, and evasion, he doesn't do enough damage to you. Thx. i can use that for more draftoptions. | ||
BluemoonSC
SoCal8910 Posts
On January 06 2015 02:20 zdarr wrote: Does the zeus chain lightning procc corrosive skin if it's not the main target ? If not, could it be a good response to lane-raping-viper as it is to lane-raping-silencer ? "The damage and slow are applied whenever Viper takes damage from any source (except for HP Removal)." from the wiki | ||
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