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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
December 28 2014 12:48 GMT
#20181
No worries, and from:

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Category:Hero_Icons

and

http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/dota-2-tournaments/455071-dota-2-live-report-resources
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
December 28 2014 13:08 GMT
#20182
Amazing, thx!
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-28 14:22:39
December 28 2014 13:43 GMT
#20183
1 more question: The hero icons on that page are larger then the ones in the "pick/bans template", how do i get smaller icons?

E: i think i found it http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Category:Hero_Standard_Icons
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Liebig
Profile Joined August 2010
France738 Posts
December 28 2014 22:04 GMT
#20184
You can use
[h]weaver[/h]
to get .
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
December 28 2014 22:32 GMT
#20185
On December 29 2014 07:04 Liebig wrote:
You can use
[h]weaver[/h]
to get .


thanks! didnt know it was that ez
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
December 29 2014 04:24 GMT
#20186
Damn, didn't know that either.

Thanks, makes life really easy.
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VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
December 29 2014 14:35 GMT
#20187
On December 26 2014 03:30 invisible.terran wrote:
Hey guys, I know there isn't one quick answer to this question. But as a hard support, what should I be doing during the mid game? Generally, I'm only stacking, warding and wandering around in case a core get caught out.


just add something that was not being said
Get some farm !
Grab a TP and take the farm safely on an abandoned lane. Even if you just afford yourself a medaillon or smtg like that you will be 10X more useful.
Use the reliabe gold trick to eco until your dagger

U have to backup your core in any situation too.
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hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
December 29 2014 20:26 GMT
#20188
For Treads and Invoker orbs, are the bonuses kept on release of projectile or when it hits? I'm guess when it's released (e.g. EEE+Int, then as soon as twirly ball of flame is thrown but still after, QQQ+Str, this should get you max damage + EHP right?)
RoyGBiv_13
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1275 Posts
December 29 2014 23:29 GMT
#20189
On December 30 2014 05:26 hariooo wrote:
For Treads and Invoker orbs, are the bonuses kept on release of projectile or when it hits? I'm guess when it's released (e.g. EEE+Int, then as soon as twirly ball of flame is thrown but still after, QQQ+Str, this should get you max damage + EHP right?)

great question. I was wondering this as well.

My gut says it's calculated when throwing the autoattack projectile, but things like the interaction with troll warlord's ranged bashes is pretty strong evidence that it's calculated based on when the projectile hits, not when thrown. I'll wait for Yango or another wise-man to chime in.
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tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7084 Posts
December 30 2014 00:01 GMT
#20190
On December 30 2014 08:29 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2014 05:26 hariooo wrote:
For Treads and Invoker orbs, are the bonuses kept on release of projectile or when it hits? I'm guess when it's released (e.g. EEE+Int, then as soon as twirly ball of flame is thrown but still after, QQQ+Str, this should get you max damage + EHP right?)

great question. I was wondering this as well.

My gut says it's calculated when throwing the autoattack projectile, but things like the interaction with troll warlord's ranged bashes is pretty strong evidence that it's calculated based on when the projectile hits, not when thrown. I'll wait for Yango or another wise-man to chime in.



the damage of the auto-attack is decided when the projectile is cast so switching orbs after the projectile is launched has no effect
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-30 17:14:14
December 30 2014 17:11 GMT
#20191
On December 30 2014 09:01 tehh4ck3r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2014 08:29 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
On December 30 2014 05:26 hariooo wrote:
For Treads and Invoker orbs, are the bonuses kept on release of projectile or when it hits? I'm guess when it's released (e.g. EEE+Int, then as soon as twirly ball of flame is thrown but still after, QQQ+Str, this should get you max damage + EHP right?)

great question. I was wondering this as well.

My gut says it's calculated when throwing the autoattack projectile, but things like the interaction with troll warlord's ranged bashes is pretty strong evidence that it's calculated based on when the projectile hits, not when thrown. I'll wait for Yango or another wise-man to chime in.



the damage of the auto-attack is decided when the projectile is cast so switching orbs after the projectile is launched has no effect


I haven't tested this invoker trick, but I saw a recent youtube video about dota 2 tricks and tips and apparently, Storm Spirit's Overcharge will trigger when you attack, then cast Storm Remnant before the projectile hits. It requires some really fast hands since Storm's projectile is fast and you have to cancel the backswing to cast Storm Remnant before the projectile hits.

It may be similar to Invokers case.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-30 17:16:34
December 30 2014 17:15 GMT
#20192
It's really not that hard because Remnant has no cast animation.

Also, that goes along with a ton of other bugs related to attack effects that are checked when the attack lands rather than when the attack is launched. Weaver's Geminate Attack is the same, where the CD is checked and starts when the attack lands rather than when the attack is launched (leading to some hilarious scenarios where if you get far enough from your attack target, your Geminate Attack can proceed to proc additional Geminate Attacks because the CD has cooled down by the time it hits the target).

It's not related to the Invoker case, and attack effects *should* check when the attack is launched. Again, some are bugged like Storm's Overload and Weaver's Geminate Attack, but these bugs are the exception rather than the rule.
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Trurl
Profile Joined December 2013
Germany14 Posts
December 31 2014 01:34 GMT
#20193
If a Kunkka x-marks himself, can you cancel the return with euls, diffusal blade or anything?
Xxazn4lyfe51xX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States976 Posts
December 31 2014 01:56 GMT
#20194
If you euls the kunkka and he is in the air DURING the return time, he won't go back. If he lands before the x return, he will.
valheru
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia966 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-31 02:00:47
December 31 2014 01:57 GMT
#20195
If a Kunkka x-marks himself, can you cancel the return with euls, diffusal blade or anything?


Yes it's possible to cancel it. If you become invulnerable at the time of return it won't return you e.g Euls, Astral Imprisonment or that little part at the start of bane sleep.
Worth noting, x-mark still returns magic immune allies but not magic immune enemies and similarly you can cast it on magic immune allies but not magic immune enemies.

http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Kunkka

EDIT: spelling
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Trurl
Profile Joined December 2013
Germany14 Posts
December 31 2014 02:47 GMT
#20196
Thank you both. We had a game earlier with megacreeps on our side vs. a rapier-kunkka on theirs and noone in my stack was quite sure about euls.
VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
December 31 2014 08:45 GMT
#20197
On December 31 2014 10:34 Trurl wrote:
If a Kunkka x-marks himself, can you cancel the return with euls, diffusal blade or anything?

best way to fuck a kunkka who X-Mark himself is to repel him with omni :d
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
December 31 2014 09:10 GMT
#20198
I remembered the strat MVP Phoenix did where they levelled kunkka to 8 for the sole purpose of X-Marks the Spot-ing their tinker who would BoT burst people down.

Yeah that was some shit.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
December 31 2014 11:31 GMT
#20199
i thought it was TT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
December 31 2014 11:38 GMT
#20200
On December 31 2014 20:31 Erasme wrote:
i thought it was TT

TT ran Kunkka/Tinker as well but it completely failed. I think they ran it at the Summit 2?
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