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Firebolt145

Lalalaland34486 Posts

September 23 2012 14:04 GMT

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flamewheel

FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts

September 23 2012 14:30 GMT

Good initiative~

Keep this up to date and everything will be super easy to find.

Torte de Lini

Germany38463 Posts

September 23 2012 16:37 GMT

http://www.dota2alttab.com/

Pretty good site too!

Firebolt145

Lalalaland34486 Posts

September 25 2012 19:04 GMT

Added miniguides to the list.

kaykaykay

Singapore637 Posts

September 25 2012 19:22 GMT

sticky stick sticky. :D

Wagamama

Sweden22 Posts

September 26 2012 10:26 GMT

Very nice =)

Kupon3ss

時の回廊10066 Posts

September 26 2012 14:01 GMT

Maybe a spoiler system that sorts by Str/Agi/Int, it seems a bit unruly in this state

Inkarnate

Canada840 Posts

September 26 2012 14:03 GMT

On September 26 2012 23:01 Kupon3ss wrote:
Maybe a spoiler system that sorts by Str/Agi/Int, it seems a bit unruly in this state

I think alphabetically works well. It is how they are displayed in the default selection screen in-game as well.

Good idea OP.

TheEmulator

28084 Posts

September 26 2012 22:38 GMT

Cool idea. I like it a lot

Firebolt145

Lalalaland34486 Posts

September 27 2012 16:02 GMT

#10

I think it will be nice if people can 'request' guides here. If you would be interested in reading a full guide for a particular hero, post here naming the hero you are interested in, and hopefully someone who has too much free time on their hands might write one for you. This is basically to help potential writers gauge what the interest levels are for each hero. I'd personally prefer to write a guide for a popular hero.

With this in mind I've currently added a little 'Requested Guides' section at the bottom of the list. If this doesn't take off I may remove it. We'll see ~

LazyFailKid

Canada750 Posts

October 13 2012 01:31 GMT

#11

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=373607#2

This deserves to be put under a misc category here imo

Soluhwin

United States1287 Posts

October 13 2012 18:11 GMT

#12

Great idea! Glad to see my guide on there even though I STILL haven't updated it... I'll do it eventually I promise!

Elurie

4716 Posts

November 06 2012 11:41 GMT

#13

wrong thread sorry.

Jindor

Austria10 Posts

December 04 2012 11:55 GMT

#14

Only Teamliquid guides I assume? (lots of good guides on playdota)

synapse

China13814 Posts

December 04 2012 15:02 GMT

#15

I WAS gonna do a full broodmother guide, but I'm too lazy.

Broodmother Miniguide

Role: Semi-carry / Midgame carry / Split pusher
Lane: Preferably solo offlane, can solo mid.

PLEASE don't pick vs Earthshaker / Sand King / Windrunner / Clockwerk, they will feed on your spiderlings and rape you
(also sometimes you get douchebag AAs that farm your spiderlings with ulti)

+ Show Spoiler [Starting Items] +

Soul Ring Recipe + Tangoes + Salve + 3x Branches (fastest SR)
Soul Ring Recipe + Tangoes + Stout / QB + Branches (next fastest SR)
Ring of Protection + Tangoes + Salve + Clarity + 2x Branches -> build fast Aquila

+ Show Spoiler [Skills] +

Spawn Spiderlings - 300dmg Nuke, spawns 1-3 spiderlings if target dies within 2 seconds

Spin Web - lays down a permanent web that breaks trees and gives brood massive HP regen + movespeed

Incapacitating Bite - passive orb that slows and gives miss chance (up to 40%)

Insatiable Hunger - 14 second attack damage / lifesteal buff, short cooldown

+ Show Spoiler [Skill Build] +

+ Show Spoiler [Faster Pushing / Antipush / D Tower] +

1 Spin Web
2 Spawn Spiderlings
3 Spin Web
4 Spawn Spiderlings
5 Spawn Spiderlings
6 Insatiable Hunger
7 Spin Web
8 Spin Web
9 Spawn Spiderlings
10 Incapacitating Bite
11 Insatiable Hunger
12 Incapacitating Bite
13 Incapacitating Bite
14 Incapacitating Bite
15 Stats
16 Insatiable Hunger
17+ Stats

+ Show Spoiler [Unthreatened Farming/Pushing] +

1 Spin Web
2 Spawn Spiderlings
3 Spin Web
4 Spin Web
5 Spawn Spiderlings
6 Spawn Spiderlings
7 Spin Web
8 Insatiable Hunger
9 Incapacitating Bite (or Spawn Spiderlings)
10 Incapacitating Bite
11 Insatiable Hunger
12 Incapacitating Bite
13 Incapacitating Bite
14 Spawn Spiderlings (Incapacitating Bite)
15 Stats
16 Insatiable Hunger
17+ Stats

+ Show Spoiler [Item Build] +

Rush Soul Ring, get Aquila if you want + Treads. Personally I skip Aquila and just rush Orchid, since all the pieces come in small parts and the only thing you're missing out on is some extra armor for your spiderlings. PMS if you got stout is okay too.

Orchid -> BKB if you expect to solo push / farm enemy jungle for a long time
BKB -> Orchid if you expect to teamfight early / push as 5

Rushing midas after treads for farming Brood is an option if you plan to be pushing/farming for a while, but I don't like it.

You want attack speed, so your next item choice would be Butterfly or AC (both give good survivability). After that, MKB is a good option if your enemy carry has Butterfly / is Faceless Void, or Manta Style because attack speed and it can purge dust and helps with pushing / teamfights. Daedalus works as a damage item if you already have good attack speed. Upgrading Treads to Boots of Travel in lategame is not a bad idea.

+ Show Spoiler [General Playstyle] +

Against most heroes, you get to bully your opponents even if 1v2 or just flat out destroy them in a 1v1 lane. As long as you have web for invis (this means you need to be watching for enemy sentries / dust) you can safely farm and deny while poking in and out of the enemy jungle. Flatten trees everywhere so you have a safe line of sight through the jungle. You want a fast soul ring to be able to spam Spawn Spiderlings. The name of the game is SPLIT PUSHING, since often the enemy team will need to send 2-3 heroes to deal with just you while the rest of your team takes towers as 4. If they send just one, kill the guy and keep pushing (Ulti + Orchid silence = free kill on most heroes). You are not a very good lategame carry, so you best be taking rax pretty quick.

+ Show Spoiler [Notes / Tips] +

- Always knock down the trees in lane that block vision of the jungle so you don't get ganked as easily.
- Constantly watch your lane opponents for Sentry Wards / Dust. Never be afraid to spend money to deward, especially early game.
- Spiderlings have 15% slow on attack and do a bit of poison damage. If the hero is mostly single-target, you can kill them with just spiderling surround + nuke + an autoattack or two.
- Use ulti when wailing on enemy towers, takes them down much faster.
- Send a spiderling or two to scout around whenever you can so you don't get ganked.
- Leave spiderlings at enemy jungle camps when you leave their jungle so that the camps don't spawn.
- Use spiderlings to block Pudge hook / sacred arrow / Slark pounce / etc.
- Spin web at key points like ancient camps, rosh, etc. b/c it gives you a single point of vision.
- DON'T FEED BROODLINGS

AssyrianKing

Australia2111 Posts

January 09 2013 07:08 GMT

#16

Thanks man :D

Cyx.

Canada806 Posts

January 19 2013 17:30 GMT

#17

Should really throw this in there=)

UltimateHurl

Ireland591 Posts

January 29 2013 14:53 GMT

#18

Great idea, thanks!

synapse

China13814 Posts

February 14 2013 14:12 GMT

#19

I'm enjoying the recent influx of guides. Let's get every hero down ;D

VelJa

France1109 Posts

February 14 2013 15:27 GMT

#20

YEAH
amazing work by Firebolt in Dota2 section
Keep going on and u will get a Star maybe

PS : there is old guide who needs to be rewrite

Porkz

Denmark1027 Posts

February 14 2013 18:21 GMT

#21

On February 15 2013 00:27 VelJa wrote:
YEAH
amazing work by Firebolt in Dota2 section
Keep going on and u will get a Star maybe

PS : there is old guide who needs to be rewrite

Why u Think hes been spamming out guides yo~~

Firebolt145

Lalalaland34486 Posts

February 14 2013 18:56 GMT

#22

On February 15 2013 00:27 VelJa wrote:
YEAH
amazing work by Firebolt in Dota2 section
Keep going on and u will get a Star maybe

PS : there is old guide who needs to be rewrite

^_^

For the record, that isn't my intention. I just felt that they weren't coming quickly enough even though it had been some months since TL adopted Dota2. I also remember how useful well-written guides were when I was new to dota many years ago, and decided to start writing them along with my stream.

Which guide needs rewriting? I can hassle the writer to update it etc.

Shootemup.

United States1044 Posts

February 19 2013 20:18 GMT

#23

On September 28 2012 01:02 Firebolt145 wrote:
I think it will be nice if people can 'request' guides here. If you would be interested in reading a full guide for a particular hero, post here naming the hero you are interested in, and hopefully someone who has too much free time on their hands might write one for you. This is basically to help potential writers gauge what the interest levels are for each hero. I'd personally prefer to write a guide for a popular hero.

With this in mind I've currently added a little 'Requested Guides' section at the bottom of the list. If this doesn't take off I may remove it. We'll see ~

If people are willing to write one I would love to see a Clockwerk guide.

synapse

China13814 Posts

February 19 2013 20:22 GMT

#24

I'd love for someone to write a Tiny guide. Too much varying information around the web on how his combo works, item build for carry Tiny, etc. Can only trust TL <3

deejay

Australia16 Posts

February 20 2013 02:05 GMT

#25

On February 20 2013 05:18 Shootemup. wrote:

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If people are willing to write one I would love to see a Clockwerk guide.

Hmm I wrote a clockwerk guide a week or so ago. Was thinking of working on it a bit more before publishing it.

My only hesitation with doing so was that i didn't feel that I was at a skill level that is adequate enough to publish guides telling others how to play

. I'm by no means pro

Perhaps someone could have a read over and edit it?

Firebolt145

Lalalaland34486 Posts

February 20 2013 06:23 GMT

#26

On February 20 2013 11:05 deejay wrote:

Show nested quote +

. I'm by no means pro

Perhaps someone could have a read over and edit it?

If you pm me I can help you with this.

VelJa

France1109 Posts

February 20 2013 09:41 GMT

#27

. I'm by no means pro

Perhaps someone could have a read over and edit it?

I would LOVE to see a Clockwerk guide. This hero is really cool

Send it to me too if u want, it would be a pleasure to help you man

edit : Dazzle Guide ? Someone pls ? Kupon3ss, Firebolt, Synapse ??? Come on guys ! Best support hero and my favourite too

packrat386

United States5077 Posts

March 01 2013 05:30 GMT

#28

It would be awesome if the standard guides created by TorteDeLini and Co were put in the OP as an alternative the the 5-s guides. They seem pretty reliable and short.

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China13814 Posts

March 01 2013 06:07 GMT

#29

On March 01 2013 14:30 packrat386 wrote:
It would be awesome if the standard guides created by TorteDeLini and Co were put in the OP as an alternative the the 5-s guides. They seem pretty reliable and short.

This, and I think www.dota2alttab.com also does a pretty decent job with item builds. They're a little bit outdated, but not as much as the 5-s guides (and a lot more accessible than going through steam guides looking for tdl's stuff).

packrat386

United States5077 Posts

March 01 2013 06:43 GMT

#30

On March 01 2013 15:07 synapse wrote:

Show nested quote +

I just figured the tortedelini guides might be a good replacement because they are sort of local to TL so they fit with the theme of TL guides and they are also brand spanking new.

rabidch

United States20288 Posts

March 01 2013 07:10 GMT

#31

On March 01 2013 15:43 packrat386 wrote:

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I just figured the tortedelini guides might be a good replacement because they are sort of local to TL so they fit with the theme of TL guides and they are also brand spanking new.

the torte de lini guides aren't exactly standard builds right now, after more community input is in it will be useful

Firebolt145

Lalalaland34486 Posts

March 01 2013 07:31 GMT

#32

Basically what rabid said. Torte has put in a tremendous amount of effort into those guides and they're shaping up, but at this point there are still too many of them that need improvement to make me feel comfortable listing them as the TL standard for quick guides.

I plan to work with Torte on them this weekend. Once they are all 'standard' and he has covered all the heroes, I'll probably list them in lieu of 5-s as his set is going out of date and I don't think he has time to update them.

synapse

China13814 Posts

March 01 2013 10:25 GMT

#33

btw firebolt you're gonna have to update the op to reflect the clockwerk guide and dazzle request ^^

Nevuk

United States16280 Posts

March 09 2013 02:10 GMT

#34

I have an enchantress request. I can play chen just fine but that little deer drives me up the wall.

EsTra

5 Posts

April 04 2013 16:39 GMT

#35

I am working on a puck guide, it will be finished in a couple weeks, I will post again when it is finished.

corsibu

Italy8 Posts

April 20 2013 16:20 GMT

#36

amazing I've searched for something like this :>

Eriksen

Micronesia720 Posts

June 28 2013 07:20 GMT

#37

*Bump*

Please include the Dragon Knight guide here

synapse

China13814 Posts

September 16 2013 19:42 GMT

#38

so ive noticed that a bunch of the hero images are disappearing... whats up with that?

Firebolt145

Lalalaland34486 Posts

September 16 2013 20:13 GMT

#39

Liquipedia doing strange things. I'll fix it soon.

Laserist

Turkey4269 Posts

September 16 2013 23:18 GMT

#40

You dont like my guide firebolt

Firebolt145

Lalalaland34486 Posts

September 17 2013 06:04 GMT

#41

Updated with Spirit Breaker and Razor guides.

Kotreb

Croatia1392 Posts

September 17 2013 15:18 GMT

#42

Are the builds still viable (except the ones which say outdated ofc)? Just looked at panda guide and it is quite old, but it seems still relevant.

synapse

China13814 Posts

September 18 2013 00:35 GMT

#43

On September 18 2013 00:18 Kotreb wrote:
Are the builds still viable (except the ones which say outdated ofc)? Just looked at panda guide and it is quite old, but it seems still relevant.

The builds are probably still relevant for the most part; whether or not the hero itself is viable is what's changed.

Kotreb

Croatia1392 Posts

September 18 2013 12:48 GMT

#44

On September 18 2013 09:35 synapse wrote:

Show nested quote +

The builds are probably still relevant for the most part; whether or not the hero itself is viable is what's changed.

Nice. Thx for the information

edit: besides, on my level, it probably doesn't matter if hero is viable or not :D

sns3rsam

United States138 Posts

September 18 2013 23:01 GMT

#45

I would really like a bristleback guide ^^ I just started playing dota earlier this year and this page is awesome haha hope more guides go up so noobs like me can see them!

Carmine

United States263 Posts

October 08 2013 23:57 GMT

#46

This index of guides is so helpful, thank you! I would like to see more but I'm sure people are busy.

Spyisaspy

United States183 Posts

October 10 2013 18:42 GMT

#47

can we make an alchemist guide sometime in the future?

Mb79584

United States164 Posts

December 26 2013 12:47 GMT

#48

Wow this guide is incredible. Im sending my new friend here

jackchenlong

United Kingdom6 Posts

January 03 2014 09:38 GMT

#49

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rebdomine

6040 Posts

May 12 2014 03:19 GMT

#50

All the links in this thread got broken btw.

synapse

China13814 Posts

May 12 2014 03:38 GMT

#51

if you didnt bump the thread noone would have known ;P

speaking of which, all the images in past guides are broken too

Firebolt145

Lalalaland34486 Posts

May 12 2014 07:59 GMT

#52

I'm very aware. Grrr.

Heyoka mentioned he might be able to automatically fix this thread, but I may have to manually go through all the other threads and fix them that way. Hopefully over the next week.