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SoCal8910 Posts
On May 10 2016 11:17 Shock710 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2016 11:10 Ver wrote:On May 10 2016 04:35 Laertes wrote:
And what is "the build" might I ask? Last progamer to play morphling was Sylar and he got roflstomped really, really hard. He went linkens first which pretty much doomed his team. Linkens is a good item situationally, but these people that get it every game are doing it wrong. Besides, the item takes 20 minutes minimum to farm up and then proceeds to not do anything but make it a little easier to farm. Armlet isn't a meme, it's a good item on a hero that struggles to do much early without it. Give me an alternative that's not linkens and I'll try it. But Linkens first is gross on any hero except weaver who has naturally high base damage and doesn't need health to fight. Sylar's morphling is the best in the world. Just because his team failed doesn't mean he did anything wrong. Linkens is strong in most games since you can pressure the enemy really hard and force overreactions with little fear of death and good sustain. No build is good if it has lost
I don't even know where to begin on this one lol
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I was always under the impression that the yasha’s main perk was the move speed, since morph is so slow naturally.
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On May 10 2016 08:30 BluemoonSC wrote:
this is a hero ive been trying to learn for a while so i know this is prolly a stupid question, but...
lifesteal. when would i ever want lifesteal?
Satanic is one of the lategame items you want on this hero and an ideal 6 slot - reason being that if you are getting focused down on, morphing to a high hp is less valuable then satanic regening it up, asyou lose all of your damage when you switch from agi (i guess now that you have a 4 sec stun thats less true but). So yeah, getting a hotd after manta skadi is pretty reasonable, and then usually make that a satanic at some point.
Theres some hotd bots yasha build too for morph that i can't seem to make sense of though. IDK about that.
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SoCal8910 Posts
On May 11 2016 01:20 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2016 08:30 BluemoonSC wrote:
this is a hero ive been trying to learn for a while so i know this is prolly a stupid question, but...
lifesteal. when would i ever want lifesteal? Satanic is one of the lategame items you want on this hero and an ideal 6 slot - reason being that if you are getting focused down on, morphing to a high hp is less valuable then satanic regening it up, asyou lose all of your damage when you switch from agi (i guess now that you have a 4 sec stun thats less true but). So yeah, getting a hotd after manta skadi is pretty reasonable, and then usually make that a satanic at some point. Theres some hotd bots yasha build too for morph that i can't seem to make sense of though. IDK about that.
I tried this build in a LDIH once and that's why im curious with how good it is if you want to do something else.
I guess linkens eblade is just too good tho
RE: when linkens is useless - im sure its still fine if you react the moment it gets popped. its basically an early warning mechanism so you can either replicate out or begin morphing strength/waveform if you're getting jumped.
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Is linkens really ever useless?
Only thing that comes to mind is 0s cast time heroes that have something to break it. But it's still useful.
And now with buffs to abyssal linkens has more utility than before
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Northern Ireland22208 Posts
On May 11 2016 02:21 Laertes wrote:
To be fair, Linkens is a great item on Morphling, but do you still get it if the active is useless(I have friends who say NO). I had to come up with a non-ricing build though because I'm working on developing a unique carrying style for myself that involves fighting very early. I'm not trying to prove armlet to anyone and I just wanted to see what people thought. Seems people don't see the point, That's fine. I pretty much expected this. I chose armlet on morphling as a core item because I needed a way to make morphling able to fight every game at a reliable time. It may be inferior to e-blade in a sense, but it's more in line with the way I want to play.
u seem obsessed with developing ur own unique playing style instead of just getting fundamentally good at the game. like that blog post where u tried to justify feeding 15 times cuz thats the only possible way ur carries can get farmed
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Intuitively, I actually disagree that Linkens is still good if you have no strong need for the spell block. One big argument for Linkens is the Mana regen for farming. So you spend 4.8k gold on an item that gives 4.1 mana regen per second (level 13 Treads Wand Aquila Bottle Linkens). Meanwhile SR costs 775 gold and its active itself is essentially 5 mana regen per second. Surely there must be better ways to spend your gold.
Now carry Morphling is one of my weakest heroes so I won't aggressively push out any ideas. I actually haven't really figured a build that fits my style as well, so I usually just go cookie cutter. Furthermore I usually play support Morphling anyway XD
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well, its not just regen, but its 15 stats which is super important, mana regen which there really sin't a good subsitute, a little damg and whatever, and the item is cheaper than ever, and the spellblock at some point will probably be useful (people will itemized around locking down morph at some point) and lets you actually split push and farm safely. If you don't get that item, you can't play morphling like morphling.
i mean, maybe there's other builds which i have only lightly played around with, but theres a reason why linkens is standard.
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On May 11 2016 03:48 Comeh wrote:
well, its not just regen, but its 15 stats which is super important, mana regen which there really sin't a good subsitute, a little damg and whatever, and the item is cheaper than ever, and the spellblock at some point will probably be useful (people will itemized around locking down morph at some point) and lets you actually split push and farm safely. If you don't get that item, you can't play morphling like morphling.
i mean, maybe there's other builds which i have only lightly played around with, but theres a reason why linkens is standard.
If people are itemising to lock down morph (Orchid), then that's a good reason to go Linkens in the first place. Point is that SR provides greater mana regen, which is the next biggest draw of Linkens after spell block. Surely with 4k gold you can spend it on something else that gives you the comparable 15 stats. An earlier Skadi for example.
I do understand the rationale why Linkens is standard. I do not disagree that Linkens is "bad" even if you do not need the spellblock. But that doesn't mean there isn't other builds that could be better.
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It's actually so sad to read those threads
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SoCal8910 Posts
I think that you also see a benefit from the HP regen too, it allows you to delay that lifesteal which is why I was asking when people pick it up. Definitely one of my most misunderstood carries atm which is why Im askin questions heh
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Northern Ireland22208 Posts
On May 11 2016 03:56 DucK- wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2016 03:48 Comeh wrote:
well, its not just regen, but its 15 stats which is super important, mana regen which there really sin't a good subsitute, a little damg and whatever, and the item is cheaper than ever, and the spellblock at some point will probably be useful (people will itemized around locking down morph at some point) and lets you actually split push and farm safely. If you don't get that item, you can't play morphling like morphling.
i mean, maybe there's other builds which i have only lightly played around with, but theres a reason why linkens is standard. If people are itemising to lock down morph (Orchid), then that's a good reason to go Linkens in the first place. Point is that SR provides greater mana regen, which is the next biggest draw of Linkens after spell block. Surely with 4k gold you can spend it on something else that gives you the comparable 15 stats. An earlier Skadi for example. I do understand the rationale why Linkens is standard. I do not disagree that Linkens is "bad" even if you do not need the spellblock. But that doesn't mean there isn't other builds that could be better.
no other item gives morph all of these things that he likes. stats. regen so he can farm fast and still have the mana to join fights. and a spellblock that at worst case, saves you some hp from a nuke, and best case, stops a silence or hex which are the main things u need to be afraid of. skadi first is dogshit on pretty much all heroes and morph is no exception.
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Even If there aren't any good spells for linkens to block immediately, having one dissuades people from buying sheep/abyssal etc later on and that's very significant.
About the only time the spell block is truly useless is when there's a bunch of small spells around to constantly pop it at long range, like PA dagger etc.
Even then, you're ungankable and it pays its cost back many times over in farming speed and safety. Linkens makes morph morph.
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SoCal8910 Posts
even with small spells, the moment your linkens pops, that's your cue to back. its an early detection system. it just gives him a lot of things that he wants in order to be safe until he can really punish the other team.
I've seen morphs come out of no where with their linkens -> eblade timing and just completely wreck my team, myself included. that timing is potent.
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How do you play this hero after having a bad laning stage? It seems really hard to come back with morph if you have no items after laning stage and no T1s. Partly this may have been due to my team not really being a very good lineup but with a lot of heroes I can farm really aggressively and not die. Doesn't seem to be as much the case with morph.
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Split push agressively with replicate.
Tell your team to not fight while you split. In fights, focus the easy pickings.
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It's been mentioned a few times but wave form is borderline exceptional mid game and morph is actually strong lv 7-9. If your lane goes bad you can take treads Aquila stick and try to make things happen with your team because of a 300 burst Q and strength morph for bad situations.
Once you are lv 11 split pushing becomes a lot easier with lv 2 replicate
And if you are far enough behind sometimes u just gotta make space for your team by drawing 3 heroes and morphing full str while your team accomplishes something
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Why would you want to delay the e blade though? I mean you want the e blade at that 20-24 minute timing because it means every fight starts 4v5 and your solo pickoff potential goes through the roof. What does armlet provide exactly that makes delaying that impact worth it?
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