EPTsometimes with euls/aghs
this heros stupidly strong all game long
[Hero] Zeus - Page 4
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
sometimes with euls/aghs this heros stupidly strong all game long | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
since then, the meta's become such that you usually wont be that free to just rice a bloodstone and continue ricing in the jungle | ||
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GtC
United States546 Posts
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ahw
Canada1099 Posts
Bloodstone respawn, and denies in particular, are pretty game breaking on a hero that easily racks up huge streaks. It's not uncommon to be on 10+ kill streaks and ur death can potentially swing the game. Even tho they nerfed the item, deny is stupid strong. Tbh last game I played as Zeus we won because I got 2 or 3 big ults baited (chronod and haunt or something), deny, clean up team fight. Those fights are unrecoverable Also, bloodstone gives you the mans regen u need to support oct core. It's just a better build. | ||
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Wala.Revolution
7582 Posts
Later you want octarine or refresher or some other item instead. | ||
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xxpack09
United States2160 Posts
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SatsuinoHado
Bulgaria777 Posts
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GtC
United States546 Posts
On March 04 2016 11:54 xxpack09 wrote: I was under the impression that bloodstone is purely for farming, and if you want to fight early you get stuff like lens/veil/euls/blink. Bloodstone is the best farming item early on for zeus, but it's also really good if you're snowballing already and you don't particularly need more damage/range/mobility. Those can potentially let you snowball harder, but unless you really need those, bloodstone is much more stable. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
On March 04 2016 10:27 Wala.Revolution wrote: I think biggest problem with bloodstone rush is that you're missing out on lens (added range for safety), veil (tons of damage) and eul/blink (safety/mobility/regen) which might change tempo of the game before bloodstone kicks in. Later you want octarine or refresher or some other item instead. this, pretty much i dont know why you would even want to rice with bloodstone when u can just get lens veil and dump on people | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
still think its a decent core to transition to lategame and sustian a snowball with the death timer reduction | ||
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ahw
Canada1099 Posts
but bloodstone is still really good for all the same reasons it was really good before. im against rushing bloodstone because the game isnt about farming stacks anymore, you gotta fight and shit on people. so some assortment of lens / veil / force / blink before your bloodstone. then you add it and have the ability to deny yourself and the mana sustain. then you go your late game shit, oct or hex or whatever the game needs. octarine is obviously very strong on him, but it doesnt offer what bloodstone does for zeus. deny, respawn, regen are all the most important thing midgame not to mention the build up isn't easy midgame | ||
BluemoonSC
SoCal8908 Posts
On March 05 2016 02:35 ahw wrote: i mean im no pro or anything just a 5k scrub but bloodstone is still really good for all the same reasons it was really good before. im against rushing bloodstone because the game isnt about farming stacks anymore, you gotta fight and shit on people. so some assortment of lens / veil / force / blink before your bloodstone. then you add it and have the ability to deny yourself and the mana sustain. then you go your late game shit, oct or hex or whatever the game needs. octarine is obviously very strong on him, but it doesnt offer what bloodstone does for zeus. deny, respawn, regen are all the most important thing midgame not to mention the build up isn't easy midgame yep. and your other point about needing to fight is something I'm discovering and netting me better personal results mid/early. that said, I prefer the arcanes -> lens -> mobility before bloodstone because I don't think any pub is organized to understand when they can try to kill something and when they cant. | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
veil bolt wrath bolt wrath does 700 (950 with veil) to their whole team and 1700 to a single target thats not even counting static field damage anyone under around 2k hp dies instantly | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
On March 05 2016 06:26 Dead9 wrote: i think refreshers the best in almost all situations after early items veil bolt wrath bolt wrath does 700 (950 with veil) to their whole team and 1700 to a single target thats not even counting static field damage anyone under around 2k hp dies instantly I think refresher is hits peak value if you already have BKB. 5-7 extra seconds of magic immunity is a lot of extra spells cast and a lot of extra static field damage. | ||
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ahw
Canada1099 Posts
Or omni knight | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
On March 05 2016 10:24 ahw wrote: Ya bkb is rly strong on Zeus, worth mentioning cause people always skip it for some reason. Or omni knight something something doesnt give damage | ||
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