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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44125 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-18 13:03:38
March 18 2015 12:52 GMT
#1

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shad2810
Profile Joined August 2013
Malaysia2682 Posts
March 18 2015 13:16 GMT
#2
Good luck to this team.

Also goody, how do you do your post to have the lines below g guard esports and how do you link to liquidpedia?
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44125 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-18 13:40:33
March 18 2015 13:25 GMT
#3
On March 18 2015 22:16 shad2810 wrote:
Good luck to this team.

Also goody, how do you do your post to have the lines below g guard esports and how do you link to liquidpedia?



open bracket + hr + closing bracket

like this
[/hr]

(remove the forwardslash from above that's the exactly it )

and for linking the liquidpedia .. i usually just copy the url of the player/team/whatever from the liquidpedia and then surround it with the url or use the 'URL' function on the text editor available here.

or you can use the player/team name and surround it by the following below




[/dota2][/dota2]

(again remove the first forward slash and that is it)

if you are finding difficulty on how things work you can always copy it through quoting and checking how it works
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Evander Berry Wall
Profile Joined June 2014
United States1137 Posts
March 28 2015 18:49 GMT
#4
Maybe, just maybe, if there's any stability in SEA, and Mushi's team continues under a different name and this team actually sticks together for a couple months, there will be something like a real competition in the SEA region.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 29 2015 01:11 GMT
#5
On March 29 2015 03:49 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
Maybe, just maybe, if there's any stability in SEA, and Mushi's team continues under a different name and this team actually sticks together for a couple months, there will be something like a real competition in the SEA region.

the biggest threat to mushi's team is not malaysian
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Evander Berry Wall
Profile Joined June 2014
United States1137 Posts
March 29 2015 16:55 GMT
#6
On March 29 2015 10:11 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 03:49 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
Maybe, just maybe, if there's any stability in SEA, and Mushi's team continues under a different name and this team actually sticks together for a couple months, there will be something like a real competition in the SEA region.

the biggest threat to mushi's team is not malaysian


Okay. Then what SEA team is the main threat?
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
March 29 2015 17:21 GMT
#7
On March 30 2015 01:55 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 10:11 rabidch wrote:
On March 29 2015 03:49 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
Maybe, just maybe, if there's any stability in SEA, and Mushi's team continues under a different name and this team actually sticks together for a couple months, there will be something like a real competition in the SEA region.

the biggest threat to mushi's team is not malaysian


Okay. Then what SEA team is the main threat?

other than Team Malaysia, the best teams in SEA are based in Korea, most notably Rave and MVPP
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Evander Berry Wall
Profile Joined June 2014
United States1137 Posts
March 29 2015 23:11 GMT
#8
On March 30 2015 02:21 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 01:55 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
On March 29 2015 10:11 rabidch wrote:
On March 29 2015 03:49 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
Maybe, just maybe, if there's any stability in SEA, and Mushi's team continues under a different name and this team actually sticks together for a couple months, there will be something like a real competition in the SEA region.

the biggest threat to mushi's team is not malaysian


Okay. Then what SEA team is the main threat?

other than Team Malaysia, the best teams in SEA are based in Korea, most notably Rave and MVPP


I wonder. Are they really? Or is it because there's been such a long absence of teams based around the Malaysian players we know are good?
ActStyle
Profile Joined May 2015
43 Posts
May 18 2015 00:57 GMT
#9
On March 30 2015 08:11 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 02:21 Elyvilon wrote:
On March 30 2015 01:55 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
On March 29 2015 10:11 rabidch wrote:
On March 29 2015 03:49 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
Maybe, just maybe, if there's any stability in SEA, and Mushi's team continues under a different name and this team actually sticks together for a couple months, there will be something like a real competition in the SEA region.

the biggest threat to mushi's team is not malaysian


Okay. Then what SEA team is the main threat?

other than Team Malaysia, the best teams in SEA are based in Korea, most notably Rave and MVPP


I wonder. Are they really? Or is it because there's been such a long absence of teams based around the Malaysian players we know are good?


Still too many malaysian pro-players hiding in their PC betting. what if they join forces and create another team? wouldnt that make malaysians invade dota scene on SEA.
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4163 Posts
May 18 2015 01:23 GMT
#10
On March 30 2015 08:11 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 02:21 Elyvilon wrote:
On March 30 2015 01:55 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
On March 29 2015 10:11 rabidch wrote:
On March 29 2015 03:49 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
Maybe, just maybe, if there's any stability in SEA, and Mushi's team continues under a different name and this team actually sticks together for a couple months, there will be something like a real competition in the SEA region.

the biggest threat to mushi's team is not malaysian


Okay. Then what SEA team is the main threat?

other than Team Malaysia, the best teams in SEA are based in Korea, most notably Rave and MVPP


I wonder. Are they really? Or is it because there's been such a long absence of teams based around the Malaysian players we know are good?


The winner of yesteryear's SEA wildcard was Arrow who is now defunct due to betting, and frankly none of the other Malayasian teams have had the LAN experience versus high calibur teams in contrast to MVP and Rave.

The good news is that it's a new patch, so maybe the chaos and paradigm shift would make that easier than you'd think.

That's not to say there's a shortage of skilled malayasian players, there's just a shortage of skilled teams.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
May 18 2015 02:07 GMT
#11
On May 18 2015 10:23 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 08:11 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:21 Elyvilon wrote:
On March 30 2015 01:55 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
On March 29 2015 10:11 rabidch wrote:
On March 29 2015 03:49 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
Maybe, just maybe, if there's any stability in SEA, and Mushi's team continues under a different name and this team actually sticks together for a couple months, there will be something like a real competition in the SEA region.

the biggest threat to mushi's team is not malaysian


Okay. Then what SEA team is the main threat?

other than Team Malaysia, the best teams in SEA are based in Korea, most notably Rave and MVPP


I wonder. Are they really? Or is it because there's been such a long absence of teams based around the Malaysian players we know are good?


The winner of yesteryear's SEA wildcard was Arrow who is now defunct due to betting, and frankly none of the other Malayasian teams have had the LAN experience versus high calibur teams in contrast to MVP and Rave.

The good news is that it's a new patch, so maybe the chaos and paradigm shift would make that easier than you'd think.

That's not to say there's a shortage of skilled malayasian players, there's just a shortage of skilled teams.

As things stand now, I sadly don't see that changing.There's enough money in the Western and Chinese scenes for teams to treat Dota as their full-time job, which incentivizes top pub players to go pro and allows people to practice all day. In SEA? Not so much, unfortunately. It leads to a feedback loop where SEA players are less likely to earn money from Dota, so they're less likely to try. I think even the average American team will be better than the average SEA team within a year or two(even taking out EG and the top SEA team at that moment), there's simply many more opportunities in the Americas. It's an unfortunate situation and I don't think a whole lot can be done about it.
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4163 Posts
May 18 2015 03:44 GMT
#12
On May 18 2015 11:07 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 10:23 lestye wrote:
On March 30 2015 08:11 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:21 Elyvilon wrote:
On March 30 2015 01:55 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
On March 29 2015 10:11 rabidch wrote:
On March 29 2015 03:49 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
Maybe, just maybe, if there's any stability in SEA, and Mushi's team continues under a different name and this team actually sticks together for a couple months, there will be something like a real competition in the SEA region.

the biggest threat to mushi's team is not malaysian


Okay. Then what SEA team is the main threat?

other than Team Malaysia, the best teams in SEA are based in Korea, most notably Rave and MVPP


I wonder. Are they really? Or is it because there's been such a long absence of teams based around the Malaysian players we know are good?


The winner of yesteryear's SEA wildcard was Arrow who is now defunct due to betting, and frankly none of the other Malayasian teams have had the LAN experience versus high calibur teams in contrast to MVP and Rave.

The good news is that it's a new patch, so maybe the chaos and paradigm shift would make that easier than you'd think.

That's not to say there's a shortage of skilled malayasian players, there's just a shortage of skilled teams.

As things stand now, I sadly don't see that changing.There's enough money in the Western and Chinese scenes for teams to treat Dota as their full-time job, which incentivizes top pub players to go pro and allows people to practice all day. In SEA? Not so much, unfortunately. It leads to a feedback loop where SEA players are less likely to earn money from Dota, so they're less likely to try. I think even the average American team will be better than the average SEA team within a year or two(even taking out EG and the top SEA team at that moment), there's simply many more opportunities in the Americas. It's an unfortunate situation and I don't think a whole lot can be done about it.


Well the good news is that it doesnt take that much money to make it "worth it" in SEA. I have to question the viewership in SEA. Surely if there's lots of Dota fans in SEA, there must be some advertisers who want to market to that large audience, someone's not seeing the opportunity here, I think. I maybe ignorant and it's much more complicated in SEA, but like, if there's sporting teams making money by selling tickets to events, there certainly must be a market.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-18 04:01:12
May 18 2015 04:00 GMT
#13
On May 18 2015 12:44 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 11:07 Elyvilon wrote:
On May 18 2015 10:23 lestye wrote:
On March 30 2015 08:11 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:21 Elyvilon wrote:
On March 30 2015 01:55 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
On March 29 2015 10:11 rabidch wrote:
On March 29 2015 03:49 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
Maybe, just maybe, if there's any stability in SEA, and Mushi's team continues under a different name and this team actually sticks together for a couple months, there will be something like a real competition in the SEA region.

the biggest threat to mushi's team is not malaysian


Okay. Then what SEA team is the main threat?

other than Team Malaysia, the best teams in SEA are based in Korea, most notably Rave and MVPP


I wonder. Are they really? Or is it because there's been such a long absence of teams based around the Malaysian players we know are good?


The winner of yesteryear's SEA wildcard was Arrow who is now defunct due to betting, and frankly none of the other Malayasian teams have had the LAN experience versus high calibur teams in contrast to MVP and Rave.

The good news is that it's a new patch, so maybe the chaos and paradigm shift would make that easier than you'd think.

That's not to say there's a shortage of skilled malayasian players, there's just a shortage of skilled teams.

As things stand now, I sadly don't see that changing.There's enough money in the Western and Chinese scenes for teams to treat Dota as their full-time job, which incentivizes top pub players to go pro and allows people to practice all day. In SEA? Not so much, unfortunately. It leads to a feedback loop where SEA players are less likely to earn money from Dota, so they're less likely to try. I think even the average American team will be better than the average SEA team within a year or two(even taking out EG and the top SEA team at that moment), there's simply many more opportunities in the Americas. It's an unfortunate situation and I don't think a whole lot can be done about it.


Well the good news is that it doesnt take that much money to make it "worth it" in SEA. I have to question the viewership in SEA. Surely if there's lots of Dota fans in SEA, there must be some advertisers who want to market to that large audience, someone's not seeing the opportunity here, I think. I maybe ignorant and it's much more complicated in SEA, but like, if there's sporting teams making money by selling tickets to events, there certainly must be a market.

pretty much every dota player in sea that is not a student or military has a day job besides playing dota

the other problem with sea is that they are now disconnected from every other major dota scene in the world


also mvp won the wildcard in ti4 sea qualifiers. arrow won the quals and went to main event, mvp lost to liquid
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4163 Posts
May 18 2015 04:11 GMT
#14
On May 18 2015 13:00 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 12:44 lestye wrote:
On May 18 2015 11:07 Elyvilon wrote:
On May 18 2015 10:23 lestye wrote:
On March 30 2015 08:11 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:21 Elyvilon wrote:
On March 30 2015 01:55 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
On March 29 2015 10:11 rabidch wrote:
On March 29 2015 03:49 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
Maybe, just maybe, if there's any stability in SEA, and Mushi's team continues under a different name and this team actually sticks together for a couple months, there will be something like a real competition in the SEA region.

the biggest threat to mushi's team is not malaysian


Okay. Then what SEA team is the main threat?

other than Team Malaysia, the best teams in SEA are based in Korea, most notably Rave and MVPP


I wonder. Are they really? Or is it because there's been such a long absence of teams based around the Malaysian players we know are good?


The winner of yesteryear's SEA wildcard was Arrow who is now defunct due to betting, and frankly none of the other Malayasian teams have had the LAN experience versus high calibur teams in contrast to MVP and Rave.

The good news is that it's a new patch, so maybe the chaos and paradigm shift would make that easier than you'd think.

That's not to say there's a shortage of skilled malayasian players, there's just a shortage of skilled teams.

As things stand now, I sadly don't see that changing.There's enough money in the Western and Chinese scenes for teams to treat Dota as their full-time job, which incentivizes top pub players to go pro and allows people to practice all day. In SEA? Not so much, unfortunately. It leads to a feedback loop where SEA players are less likely to earn money from Dota, so they're less likely to try. I think even the average American team will be better than the average SEA team within a year or two(even taking out EG and the top SEA team at that moment), there's simply many more opportunities in the Americas. It's an unfortunate situation and I don't think a whole lot can be done about it.


Well the good news is that it doesnt take that much money to make it "worth it" in SEA. I have to question the viewership in SEA. Surely if there's lots of Dota fans in SEA, there must be some advertisers who want to market to that large audience, someone's not seeing the opportunity here, I think. I maybe ignorant and it's much more complicated in SEA, but like, if there's sporting teams making money by selling tickets to events, there certainly must be a market.

pretty much every dota player in sea that is not a student or military has a day job besides playing dota

the other problem with sea is that they are now disconnected from every other major dota scene in the world


also mvp won the wildcard in ti4 sea qualifiers. arrow won the quals and went to main event, mvp lost to liquid

Right my bad. Wildcard means different things in the sports I follow I messed up.

and i disagree with your conclusion. They're disconnected from the rest of the world, that's true but they don't even have much for themselves to connect to, to begin with,


But yea, like I said before, some SEA organizers need to pitch how Dota is popular with young people to have these events with the money to support the player. There's a value in Dota's popularity in SEA that's not being taken advantage of.
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