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Demand2k
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Norway875 Posts
September 12 2014 21:21 GMT
#21
On September 09 2014 13:58 ApproximateKnowledge wrote:
I think people identify with Singsing because of how transparently insecure he is despite his talent and charisma. He strikes me as somebody who hasn't quite figured out what sort of person he wants to be. I hope he finds his confidence eventually.






Sing is charismatic/entertaining, that's what draws people. As for your speculations leading into assumption already in the next sentence, grow up.
ApproximateKnowledge
Profile Joined May 2014
United States76 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-13 02:16:10
September 13 2014 02:11 GMT
#22
On September 13 2014 06:21 Demand2k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 13:58 ApproximateKnowledge wrote:
I think people identify with Singsing because of how transparently insecure he is despite his talent and charisma. He strikes me as somebody who hasn't quite figured out what sort of person he wants to be. I hope he finds his confidence eventually.






Sing is charismatic/entertaining, that's what draws people. As for your speculations leading into assumption already in the next sentence, grow up.


Have you seen his interviews? When C9 won MLG, he flat out admitted that Arteezy was a better mid player than he was and allowed himself to be shunted into the off-lane by a stand-in. It's difficult to imagine another official player of a top team being forced out of his typical role by a stand-in.

Your second sentence is so grammatically uncomfortable. I can't even...
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hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
September 13 2014 02:23 GMT
#23
On September 13 2014 11:11 ApproximateKnowledge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 06:21 Demand2k wrote:
On September 09 2014 13:58 ApproximateKnowledge wrote:
I think people identify with Singsing because of how transparently insecure he is despite his talent and charisma. He strikes me as somebody who hasn't quite figured out what sort of person he wants to be. I hope he finds his confidence eventually.






Sing is charismatic/entertaining, that's what draws people. As for your speculations leading into assumption already in the next sentence, grow up.


Have you seen his interviews? When C9 won MLG, he flat out admitted that Arteezy was a better mid player than he was and allowed himself to be shunted into the off-lane by a stand-in. It's difficult to imagine another official player of a top team being forced out of his typical role by a stand-in.

Your second sentence is so grammatically uncomfortable. I can't even...


If you have RTZ as a standin you wouldn't put him in the offlane or on support no matter who your mid is.
fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
September 13 2014 02:27 GMT
#24
On September 13 2014 11:11 ApproximateKnowledge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 06:21 Demand2k wrote:
On September 09 2014 13:58 ApproximateKnowledge wrote:
I think people identify with Singsing because of how transparently insecure he is despite his talent and charisma. He strikes me as somebody who hasn't quite figured out what sort of person he wants to be. I hope he finds his confidence eventually.






Sing is charismatic/entertaining, that's what draws people. As for your speculations leading into assumption already in the next sentence, grow up.


Have you seen his interviews? When C9 won MLG, he flat out admitted that Arteezy was a better mid player than he was and allowed himself to be shunted into the off-lane by a stand-in. It's difficult to imagine another official player of a top team being forced out of his typical role by a stand-in.

Your second sentence is so grammatically uncomfortable. I can't even...



He isn't insecure, he's realistic. Arteezy is one of the best mids and doesn't really play other roles as well, whereas Singsing can play mid and offlane reasonably well due to his #yolo nature. So it was a much safer bet to put arteezy mid than putting him offlane. He does need to ease up on the twitch memes though. I like watching his stream for the crazy plays but the constant OHHH MYYY GAAWWWWDs and gucci and whatever gets annoying.
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-13 02:35:47
September 13 2014 02:35 GMT
#25
On September 13 2014 11:27 fuzzy_panda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 11:11 ApproximateKnowledge wrote:
On September 13 2014 06:21 Demand2k wrote:
On September 09 2014 13:58 ApproximateKnowledge wrote:
I think people identify with Singsing because of how transparently insecure he is despite his talent and charisma. He strikes me as somebody who hasn't quite figured out what sort of person he wants to be. I hope he finds his confidence eventually.






Sing is charismatic/entertaining, that's what draws people. As for your speculations leading into assumption already in the next sentence, grow up.


Have you seen his interviews? When C9 won MLG, he flat out admitted that Arteezy was a better mid player than he was and allowed himself to be shunted into the off-lane by a stand-in. It's difficult to imagine another official player of a top team being forced out of his typical role by a stand-in.

Your second sentence is so grammatically uncomfortable. I can't even...



He isn't insecure, he's realistic. Arteezy is one of the best mids and doesn't really play other roles as well, whereas Singsing can play mid and offlane reasonably well due to his #yolo nature. So it was a much safer bet to put arteezy mid than putting him offlane. He does need to ease up on the twitch memes though. I like watching his stream for the crazy plays but the constant OHHH MYYY GAAWWWWDs and gucci and whatever gets annoying.

Fat chance of this. Also a little silly to call them "twitch memes" when a lot of memes originate with Sing (or are at least popularized on his stream). This is just how his stream is: he's silly and melodramatic and his fans love it in general.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
roronoe
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada1527 Posts
September 13 2014 02:53 GMT
#26
On September 13 2014 11:23 hootsushi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 11:11 ApproximateKnowledge wrote:
On September 13 2014 06:21 Demand2k wrote:
On September 09 2014 13:58 ApproximateKnowledge wrote:
I think people identify with Singsing because of how transparently insecure he is despite his talent and charisma. He strikes me as somebody who hasn't quite figured out what sort of person he wants to be. I hope he finds his confidence eventually.






Sing is charismatic/entertaining, that's what draws people. As for your speculations leading into assumption already in the next sentence, grow up.


Have you seen his interviews? When C9 won MLG, he flat out admitted that Arteezy was a better mid player than he was and allowed himself to be shunted into the off-lane by a stand-in. It's difficult to imagine another official player of a top team being forced out of his typical role by a stand-in.

Your second sentence is so grammatically uncomfortable. I can't even...


If you have RTZ as a standin you wouldn't put him in the offlane or on support no matter who your mid is.


You guys say that in hindsight like it's a given everyone know his abilites. At the time, he wasn't on a pro team and was a completely unproven player.
The Purgatory of Endless Depths
fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
September 13 2014 03:33 GMT
#27
On September 13 2014 11:53 roronoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 11:23 hootsushi wrote:
On September 13 2014 11:11 ApproximateKnowledge wrote:
On September 13 2014 06:21 Demand2k wrote:
On September 09 2014 13:58 ApproximateKnowledge wrote:
I think people identify with Singsing because of how transparently insecure he is despite his talent and charisma. He strikes me as somebody who hasn't quite figured out what sort of person he wants to be. I hope he finds his confidence eventually.






Sing is charismatic/entertaining, that's what draws people. As for your speculations leading into assumption already in the next sentence, grow up.


Have you seen his interviews? When C9 won MLG, he flat out admitted that Arteezy was a better mid player than he was and allowed himself to be shunted into the off-lane by a stand-in. It's difficult to imagine another official player of a top team being forced out of his typical role by a stand-in.

Your second sentence is so grammatically uncomfortable. I can't even...


If you have RTZ as a standin you wouldn't put him in the offlane or on support no matter who your mid is.


You guys say that in hindsight like it's a given everyone know his abilites. At the time, he wasn't on a pro team and was a completely unproven player.



I'm pretty sure even before he started playing in the proscene he was famous as one of the best mids and was a practice partner for S4. The only reason he didn't go pro earlier was because of school. And it was because he was unproven in any other role except mid, they decided to give him mid as that would be his most comfortable and familiar role.
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
September 13 2014 03:47 GMT
#28
Guys I think the logic is fairly clear: if you have two players, one is in one role but is highly flexible, the other is very talented at that same role but is unproven in others, you give the talented player that role and let the flexible one flex. I know Dota is a dick-measuring contest for a lot of people and the mid and/or carry has the biggest of all dicks but this is how professionals should make decisions.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
ApproximateKnowledge
Profile Joined May 2014
United States76 Posts
September 13 2014 04:56 GMT
#29
Watch his MLG interview guys - I'm actually not pulling this stuff out of my ass. Sing has always been unsure of his abilities at mid and has readily admitted as much.

I too, am love with the idea of a silly meme-creating entertainer who is 'secretly' a competative tryhard with a bottomless pool of natural talent. The extent to which that is true is debatable, but all I'm saying is that he plays way too timidly in an era of high impact farming mids.
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FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-13 05:09:03
September 13 2014 05:08 GMT
#30
On September 13 2014 13:56 ApproximateKnowledge wrote:
Watch his MLG interview guys - I'm actually not pulling this stuff out of my ass. Sing has always been unsure of his abilities at mid and has readily admitted as much.

I too, am love with the idea of a silly meme-creating entertainer who is 'secretly' a competative tryhard with a bottomless pool of natural talent. The extent to which that is true is debatable, but all I'm saying is that he plays way too timidly in an era of high impact farming mids.

Actually I think this is more than you have been saying. On the surface I disagree with it but I haven't given it a lot of thought. As far as his ego goes, I think it is more humility than insecurity. He doesn't have the attitude of a top-tier NA player, but we're all assholes in this part of the world. I think any player who thinks he is the best, or at least puts out that aura, is the most insecure. This applies to physical sports as well; almost none of the athletes who go around thinking "I am the best" actually are. Michael Jordan was pretty sure he was the hottest shit ever, and for his time he certainly was, but who knows how he'd feel about himself if he didn't have five championships.

Anyway I don't have the deep dive on Sing's psychology for this; nothing I've seen out of him says to me that he is "insecure" in the traditional sense; it's certainly possible but so much speculation is involved it's just not super interesting.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
September 13 2014 05:46 GMT
#31
I do agree with the insecure part. Although its unfair to conclude so since we have never met him in person, his behavior strikes me as an insecure introvert, who uses all these client antics as a defense mechanis. That's just my opinion.

What I like about sing is that I know deep down despite all the rubbish he does in streams, he is dead serious in competitive. I mean that's what you respect in people. You play hard, but you know when to work hard too.
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
September 13 2014 20:36 GMT
#32
Sing's Terrorblade build just now is the worst shit I've ever seen. Phase > Aquilla > MoM > Shadowblade. Think he'd be going for aghs next if they weren't getting destroyed.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
September 13 2014 23:08 GMT
#33
On September 13 2014 11:11 ApproximateKnowledge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 06:21 Demand2k wrote:
On September 09 2014 13:58 ApproximateKnowledge wrote:
I think people identify with Singsing because of how transparently insecure he is despite his talent and charisma. He strikes me as somebody who hasn't quite figured out what sort of person he wants to be. I hope he finds his confidence eventually.






Sing is charismatic/entertaining, that's what draws people. As for your speculations leading into assumption already in the next sentence, grow up.


Have you seen his interviews? When C9 won MLG, he flat out admitted that Arteezy was a better mid player than he was and allowed himself to be shunted into the off-lane by a stand-in. It's difficult to imagine another official player of a top team being forced out of his typical role by a stand-in.

Your second sentence is so grammatically uncomfortable. I can't even...

I'm not sure you mean insecure when we mean insecure.

that's a pretty shitty arguement dawg, a practice maniac team like c9 (or back then, speed gaming) doesn't go into a tourny like that without deciding what owrks best, besides you forget that before aui entered the team (in the place of Arteezy who was on Kaipi, mind you), sing played support on Kaipi when RTZ was on the team, so saying that he was "forced" seems... inaccurate
Besides,
In the woods, there lurks..
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
September 14 2014 23:02 GMT
#34
This game Sing is streaming right now is next-level ridiculous.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3241 Posts
September 14 2014 23:25 GMT
#35
On September 15 2014 08:02 FHDH wrote:
This game Sing is streaming right now is next-level ridiculous.

The one where tucker forcestaffs singsing with 100hp and bloodseeker ult while on the last second of tp?
"AWWWWMYGAAAAAADDDDDD fuck you tucker"
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
September 15 2014 00:00 GMT
#36
On September 15 2014 08:25 misirlou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 08:02 FHDH wrote:
This game Sing is streaming right now is next-level ridiculous.

The one where tucker forcestaffs singsing with 100hp and bloodseeker ult while on the last second of tp?
"AWWWWMYGAAAAAADDDDDD fuck you tucker"

Attempt level one Rosh, get sniffed. Go back after skirmish, get sniffed, rolling team fight across map, Shadow Shaman has mana boots at 1:30, no one has bought courier, someone buys it remotely and drops from stash, sing destroys it....etc...I didn't see the end but there were like 110 kills total when I last looked.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
dovydasee
Profile Joined September 2014
Lithuania2 Posts
September 18 2014 18:23 GMT
#37
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ChinaLifeXXL
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States365 Posts
September 18 2014 22:12 GMT
#38
Regarding sing's offlane MLG decision. Do you forget day one where they did put Arteezy offlane and he went like 2 - 15 on timber and generally fed every game? Then they put him mid day 2 and won? smh you guys have short memories acting like singsing abdicated his spot cuz he's a bad mid. Arteezy was just a worthless offlaner

And another thing! EE had arteezy on his team before so he knew how good of a mid he was. smh smh smh you guys
If you can do it; you should do it every time.
HavocDaFuzzy
Profile Joined October 2014
Malaysia15 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-02 11:13:14
October 02 2014 11:11 GMT
#39
On September 14 2014 05:36 FHDH wrote:
Sing's Terrorblade build just now is the worst shit I've ever seen. Phase > Aquilla > MoM > Shadowblade. Think he'd be going for aghs next if they weren't getting destroyed.


Thats the singsing we know and love
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EDIT:this is some of the item's in singsing's inventory if anyone is wondering
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tns
Profile Joined June 2011
1054 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-02 11:25:40
October 02 2014 11:24 GMT
#40
On September 07 2014 14:19 CorsairHero wrote:
too bad he doesnt post on TL anymore

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that MLG performance

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Hahaha x"D
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