SingSing Discussion

On September 07 2014 19:03 Koerage wrote:
you can see that he has talent in the same stream, he makes some imba plays on heroes he never plays in competative.
that said, he shouldnt play razor in competative, not his kind of hero

On September 08 2014 20:01 SleepyDreams wrote:
anyone know what happened between him and ee? Did singsing clash with just ee or aui too? I know he's pretty good friends with pld and bone7...

On September 08 2014 20:01 SleepyDreams wrote:
anyone know what happened between him and ee? Did singsing clash with just ee or aui too? I know he's pretty good friends with pld and bone7...

On September 08 2014 20:30 spudde123 wrote:


Concerning Sing and TT, it will be interesting to see what organization is actually picking them up. They are participating in a lot of tournaments as well, hopefully they'll get to several LANs as well so we can see them compete.

On September 09 2014 13:58 ApproximateKnowledge wrote:
I think people identify with Singsing because of how transparently insecure he is despite his talent and charisma. He strikes me as somebody who hasn't quite figured out what sort of person he wants to be. I hope he finds his confidence eventually.

On September 09 2014 13:58 ApproximateKnowledge wrote:
I think people identify with Singsing because of how transparently insecure he is despite his talent and charisma. He strikes me as somebody who hasn't quite figured out what sort of person he wants to be. I hope he finds his confidence eventually.

On September 13 2014 06:21 Demand2k wrote:


Sing is charismatic/entertaining, that's what draws people. As for your speculations leading into assumption already in the next sentence, grow up.

On September 13 2014 11:11 ApproximateKnowledge wrote:


Have you seen his interviews? When C9 won MLG, he flat out admitted that Arteezy was a better mid player than he was and allowed himself to be shunted into the off-lane by a stand-in. It's difficult to imagine another official player of a top team being forced out of his typical role by a stand-in.

Your second sentence is so grammatically uncomfortable. I can't even...

On September 13 2014 11:11 ApproximateKnowledge wrote:


Have you seen his interviews? When C9 won MLG, he flat out admitted that Arteezy was a better mid player than he was and allowed himself to be shunted into the off-lane by a stand-in. It's difficult to imagine another official player of a top team being forced out of his typical role by a stand-in.

Your second sentence is so grammatically uncomfortable. I can't even...

On September 13 2014 11:27 fuzzy_panda wrote:



He isn't insecure, he's realistic. Arteezy is one of the best mids and doesn't really play other roles as well, whereas Singsing can play mid and offlane reasonably well due to his #yolo nature. So it was a much safer bet to put arteezy mid than putting him offlane. He does need to ease up on the twitch memes though. I like watching his stream for the crazy plays but the constant OHHH MYYY GAAWWWWDs and gucci and whatever gets annoying.

On September 13 2014 11:23 hootsushi wrote:


If you have RTZ as a standin you wouldn't put him in the offlane or on support no matter who your mid is.

On September 13 2014 11:53 roronoe wrote:


You guys say that in hindsight like it's a given everyone know his abilites. At the time, he wasn't on a pro team and was a completely unproven player.

On September 13 2014 13:56 ApproximateKnowledge wrote:
Watch his MLG interview guys - I'm actually not pulling this stuff out of my ass. Sing has always been unsure of his abilities at mid and has readily admitted as much.

I too, am love with the idea of a silly meme-creating entertainer who is 'secretly' a competative tryhard with a bottomless pool of natural talent. The extent to which that is true is debatable, but all I'm saying is that he plays way too timidly in an era of high impact farming mids.

On September 15 2014 08:02 FHDH wrote:
This game Sing is streaming right now is next-level ridiculous.

On September 15 2014 08:25 misirlou wrote:

The one where tucker forcestaffs singsing with 100hp and bloodseeker ult while on the last second of tp?
"AWWWWMYGAAAAAADDDDDD fuck you tucker"

On September 14 2014 05:36 FHDH wrote:
Sing's Terrorblade build just now is the worst shit I've ever seen. Phase > Aquilla > MoM > Shadowblade. Think he'd be going for aghs next if they weren't getting destroyed.

On September 07 2014 14:19 CorsairHero wrote:
too bad he doesnt post on TL anymore


that MLG performance

On October 02 2014 20:11 HavocDaFuzzy wrote:


Thats the singsing we know and love


EDIT:this is some of the item's in singsing's inventory if anyone is wondering

On October 02 2014 21:22 Furikawari wrote:

AFAIK those are items named and given by the fans.

On October 20 2014 10:30 FHDH wrote:
When I watched him on Friday there was definitely a chip on his shoulder. I don't know what's up.

On November 13 2014 15:53 Saki [NETOGE] wrote:
Why doesn't SingSing play mid anymore?

On November 14 2014 02:25 Pazuzu wrote:
His stream was hilarious as usual last night. The infamous 6 * bracer, 1-16-6 spirit breaker build will forever live in history as quite literally the shittiest build ive seen someone voluntarily do while still trying to win

On November 14 2014 00:23 BluemoonSC wrote:


I highly doubt that they think he's not the best mid on the team. honestly, this team has many positional issues and they are going to have to get used to their new positions while they figure out what's best for the team.

On November 14 2014 20:59 BluemoonSC wrote:


yep, this. I also think that Sing's hero pool at mid is kinda limited in the current patch. perhaps it could be that he is practicing some new heroes and giving other players a chance to mid in the meantime? either way, I think that TT has some time before they become accustomed to the way things are..gotta remember that they qojqva and bulba both had their contracts BOUGHT out. I think the team will have a "long" (in DOTA-time) future when they get settled.

On November 16 2014 04:30 Saki [NETOGE] wrote:


SingSing's mid is much better than his support, even though I think he's still the only good support on the team other than EGM. His plays are solid, but they keep switching him around when he needs to get into a groove. Same with everyone else.

On another note, I wonder who bought them out?

On November 16 2014 05:52 TRAP[yoo] wrote:

the good game agency aka eg aka alex garfield

On November 17 2014 02:02 Iplaythings wrote:
Romour was that that Alliance dota 2 squad would be sold off to MYM so Alex would free up money for Team Tinker and Secret.

On November 18 2014 01:24 BluemoonSC wrote:


100%. there's a reason that sing sing gets 10k more viewers than any other English-speaking DOTA streamer. That's more eyes on sponsor logos than EG gets when their entire squad streams at the same time..all from one stream.

it really is a wonder how he doesn't have a personal sponsor yet. but I can see him being the type to not pursue it on his own seeing as he doesn't go wild with the donations and sub hype.

On February 16 2015 01:18 Just_a_Moth wrote:
So, is he binge streaming to cope with no longer being on a team? lol

On February 16 2015 14:08 Unleashing wrote:
I think it's more like, since he's not on a team streaming is both a source of income + he doesn't have scrims which frees up time to stream dota since he wouldn't be streaming his scrims.

He's also supposedly still with GGA, so there might be something going on there in regards to him streaming.

On February 16 2015 12:56 FHDH wrote:

Well he needs an income and I think he's having more fun playing Dota now that he's not on a depressing team.

By the way if you are missing this Tidehunter game it is a fucking classic. Look for it in vods.

On February 16 2015 22:21 Sa6peto wrote:

Can you clarify what tidehunter game are you refering tho
It was on 1 of the SoloQ streams past 2 days ?


Also , i must agree completely that the streams have been really entertaining past couple days.
I watched the 1 he was going 0-5 and met Akroma chan couple times in his games ( didnt really watch all of it tho )
And it was really fun to watch
Gona check his yday stream today i guess ... but the SoloQ is nice change and really good entertainment.

Tho nothing beats Sing + Bangfish + ar1se + Tucker + Akroma (SnifSnif) games , Constantly flaming and trying to screw eachother :D
Thats why Master SingSing is the best

On February 17 2015 01:29 Just_a_Moth wrote:
Should make a new team called Team Tucker.

On February 17 2015 01:37 G3CKO wrote:
Sing should just get his stream stack into TI qualifiers and go into the main event.

On February 16 2015 12:56 FHDH wrote:

Well he needs an income and I think he's having more fun playing Dota now that he's not on a depressing team.

By the way if you are missing this Tidehunter game it is a fucking classic. Look for it in vods.

On February 19 2015 15:10 SilverSkyLark wrote:

I can't find Feb 15/16 Vods in his channel.

On February 19 2015 15:12 FHDH wrote:

I think they are muted, he was playing a lot of music that night

On February 19 2015 15:57 SilverSkyLark wrote:

He uploads VODS to his yt channel too. I can't find it there.

On February 19 2015 20:56 Linwelin wrote:
Have you checked
https://www.youtube.com/user/jan20118909

He uploads Sing's vods very quickly

On February 19 2015 15:10 SilverSkyLark wrote:

I can't find Feb 15/16 Vods in his channel.

On February 20 2015 08:06 Count9 wrote:
well, they'd have a 33% chance to win the NA qualis if they moved there for a few months

On February 20 2015 08:49 Hoenicker wrote:
I agree My Nuts is legit, and Bulldog, then their just missing black and a support :p.

On February 21 2015 02:30 Hoenicker wrote:
So EE seems upset about a guy who posted some of singsing stats from TI4, (which kind of suggested he is actually quite a good player). That kid is becoming extremely jaded. I really think a lot of these e-sports team would benefit from adult supervision, like a coach or smeone in that capacity. Ever heard of a 19 year old footballer determine who is going to play on the team that day?

Don't be that guy dude that just post out of his feelings and just formulate conclusion out of what has been seen and not actually trying to dig deeper.

On February 21 2015 03:09 Hoenicker wrote:
I in fact couldent care less about why EE kicked sing, but more about his tweeting behaviour today. It seems like EE can't deal with reddit critisizing him. This indicates a very high level of immaturity on his part and a certain level of jadedness, which I generally find a dispiseable characteristic in people. And that is why I think these e-sports team managed by 21 year olds, need adult superivision.

plz take your own advice buddy. It was merely a post about some of singsings statistics (which turned out to be rather impressive) something totally unemotional, simple, clear, facts. I very much doubt you actually read either post lol. People like you make me feel sad about the future of humankind.

On February 21 2015 03:09 Hoenicker wrote:
I in fact couldent care less about why EE kicked sing, but more about his tweeting behaviour today. It seems like EE can't deal with reddit critisizing him. This indicates a very high level of immaturity on his part and a certain level of jadedness, which I generally find a dispiseable characteristic in people. And that is why I think these e-sports team managed by 21 year olds, need adult superivision.

plz take your own advice buddy. It was merely a post about some of singsings statistics (which turned out to be rather impressive) something totally unemotional, simple, clear, facts. I very much doubt you actually read either post lol. People like you make me feel sad about the future of humankind.

On February 21 2015 03:28 goody153 wrote:


So you still think EE is the only guy that decided to kick sing ? where the fuck did you get that info ? So everybody outside envy from the team actually never gave a decision or objected on kicking sing ?

Based on GPM/XPM ? so sing is better than burning now ? Did you forget that sing played meepo ?(or do you not know anything about meepo ?) Did you not realize that sing switched with EE as 1 pos a lot of the games ? Envy has the highest gpm and xpm during the summit does that mean he is better than everybody that time ? The analysis was flawed .

And you take reddit comments seriously ? rofl

On February 21 2015 03:28 goody153 wrote:


So you still think EE is the only guy that decided to kick sing ?

On February 21 2015 06:49 CorsairHero wrote:

Would you be surprised if EE was the only one that decided to kick aui and pld?

On February 21 2015 09:36 FHDH wrote:
EE says dumb shit in an interview open to all kinds of interpretations: "EE is just too real. He doesn't give a fuck. He'll tell it like it is."

EE gets mad people "misinterpret" his terrible interviews: "EE is losing faith in interviews. He should learn not to care what people think."

Laughter about EE the person and his weird fans continues.

PS: when the entire existence of your job requires fans, you don't get to not care.

On February 22 2015 14:20 Murkinlol wrote:
The thing is there are really only 3 good european teams and they all have good 1's already. I can't see Secret or EG making any roster changes, let alone their core players. Cloud 9 might be active but changing roles is just as risky as changing players, especially if that player hasn't played that role in long time. Asking Envy to support or Fata to offlane just to make room for Black is just ridiculous.

That said, the problem with any new euro team isn't their collective skill, it's the lack of a strong captain. There are a lot of good players out there that are teamless or on weak teams but what separates them the most from the top 3 teams is that there are no equivalents to PPD, Puppey, or Envy when it comes to drafting and captaining. So when people say things like black/sing/bulldog/pieliedie +1 or whatever it's not the skill that I question it's who would be that teams PPD, Puppey or Envy?

On February 22 2015 05:03 Count9 wrote:
Didn't EE get mad about a reddit post that trascribed what he said on a stream word for word?

On February 24 2015 02:56 FuzzyJAM wrote:

The reason he criticised that transcription was that it wasn't word for word and misrepresented what he'd said. When someone fixed it he was fine.


Anyway, Burden United looks like it'll achieve nothing. CWM and MyNuts are good enough, but I'm not sold on Bamboe and I have no idea on Neqroman. One would think MeePwn'd would be better for Sing - at least a shot of qualifying for TI5 - but who knows?

On March 04 2015 20:16 TheSmokeyy90 wrote:
I'm ready to see this team in action.

No Sing streams lately, so I take it as a sign they are scrimming/practicing pretty consistently.

On March 04 2015 22:13 hootsushi wrote:


Pretty sure Sing was on vacation for a week or sth like that.

On March 10 2015 17:58 Furikawari wrote:
I'm gonna insta buy this :D But wait, no vulgarity??? WTF Sing, no "We fokin lost"???

On March 10 2015 20:47 Daralii wrote:

Volvo rules, probably. Kind of weird considering what the heroes say, but whatever.

On March 10 2015 22:02 Sa6peto wrote:
So much SingSIng going to happen today ... D2CL and ESL :x cant w8 !

Also , Volvo , you literally MUST use * WE fucking Lost * as a lose game announcement . and * Easiest game of my life * / *Ez Katka * when win ... :D
Also there should be a custom announcement when Silencer cast global silence * Shut the fuck up Tucker* xD

You know SIng things
Im insta buying that the moment it appear tho !

On March 10 2015 22:35 cuckoo wrote:
I don't think Valve has that much problem with swearing, a couple of hero lines have "bitch". They just don't want racist jokes, etc.

On March 11 2015 04:07 LemOn wrote:
So like there's no chance of his new team being up for grabs for e.g. Liquid?

On March 11 2015 04:09 cuckoo wrote:
Great performance. CWM playing like PLD, creating tons of space and MyNuts is so freaking good.

On March 11 2015 07:46 Sa6peto wrote:
On the side note , if he doesnt strim soon im gona die ... literally .
My supply of WE fucking lost is running low :c

On March 20 2015 04:53 sorrowptoss wrote:
Am I the only who's starting to think that Sing stream is turning in The Bachelor: Dota2 edition?

On March 20 2015 04:53 sorrowptoss wrote:
Am I the only who's starting to think that Sing stream is turning in The Bachelor: Dota2 edition?

On March 20 2015 07:51 Hoenicker wrote:
im not so sure he really enjoys it, he consistently rates them 1/5... But he's right, they suck.

On March 20 2015 17:11 DucK- wrote:
Sing streams and pubs for fun. Bangfish akroma tucker share similar styles of clowning around in pubs, so I can understand why he likes playing with them. Lots of davai!!! or OH MY GAWDDDDD or WE FOCKIN LOSSSSSS or team?!? etc.

I don't like snith though. He kinda try hard.

On March 20 2015 22:11 Rodrak wrote:


Meh, I like snith but he tries because he likes Chen and is aiming for #1 in world (He's at 4-6 normally) so he seems like that. He also plays on a script, he has literal chat binds for what his plan is on Chen (gank at lvl 2-3). He's still a pretty relaxed player who doesn't get entirely salty (just a little, like when you deny his creeps). But he's usually a guaranteed win if he plays with singsongpingpong.

On March 20 2015 22:30 TRAP[yoo] wrote:

you forgot to mention that hes actually really bad with chen

On March 20 2015 07:51 Hoenicker wrote:
im not so sure he really enjoys it, he consistently rates them 1/5... But he's right, they suck.

On March 20 2015 23:34 ahswtini wrote:

ye sing sexist only rates grills 1/5 gives menfolk 5/5 would give 6/5 if possible

On March 20 2015 22:30 TRAP[yoo] wrote:

you forgot to mention that hes actually really bad with chen

On March 21 2015 02:01 Jelissei wrote:
What was this shopping bug with tiny just now?

On March 22 2015 05:52 GentleDrill wrote:
Sing gave up on going pro Lethal League.

On March 25 2015 10:38 NubbleST wrote:
The lack of expletives makes it sound kind of awkward, in my opinion.

On March 25 2015 20:25 Doraemon wrote:
sounds too forced and scripted. would be much better if they took it from stream and remove expletives as required.

On June 19 2015 20:30 DucK- wrote:
Looks like the retard stack's gonna meet up in person at ESL!

On June 19 2015 20:39 manicmessiah wrote:

Care to explain?

On June 19 2015 20:39 manicmessiah wrote:

Care to explain?

On June 20 2015 01:11 DucK- wrote:
Omg tucker does not look like what I expected. I can no longer take him seriously when he flames.

On August 15 2015 00:52 TomatoBisque wrote:
Meanwhile I check his stream and he's randomed Doom.

On August 20 2015 19:00 Papercappu wrote:
pretty sure he's not insterested playing seriously anymore.both BU & TT were formed just so they can attend tournaments for fun

On August 23 2015 06:30 Papercappu wrote:

BU was formed so the guys can attend ESL Frankfurt.the whole thing happened on his stream.he even promise free tickets to his friends if he qualify.they ended doing well at other tournaments & getting shot at TI qualifiers.TT was formed for fun as well at first.
sing doesnt need to play seriously because he earn more money from streaming.cant say the same about his teammates though.which is why TT ended up being serious

On August 23 2015 08:24 nanaoei wrote:
his views of himself could have changed over the course of the year after the c9 stint.
of course, there's the distinct difference between being not interested, and only being interested when the stars align or something lands at your door-step; that difference is slight in my opinion.

it's obvious he's taking his mentality to the next level when ranked pubbing these days or is changing things up.
he talks about his choices, predictions, etcetera in more serious tones.
his item progression, farming, and mechanics are behind some of the t1/t2 players and it hasn't really improved so far.
i'll give an example, he rarely bottle crows, stack for himself, or purchase items&ship them immediately when he has the opportunities and it makes a big difference in some of the games he's playing.
there's some really fundamental stuff that your average joe will do to optimize that sing doesn't try or adapt to his play.
he's just playing pubs the way he can and it's chill and awesome for a stream--not for improving his heroes or his basics, unfortunately.
I actually find it hard to believe that he's still trying to be the very best, especially if the reasoning is that he's looking for the right teammates to start shifting gears. because in my opinion, that's something you take the initiative to seek out yourself as if every moment is getting wasted doing otherwise.

On August 23 2015 08:24 nanaoei wrote:
his views of himself could have changed over the course of the year after the c9 stint.
of course, there's the distinct difference between being not interested, and only being interested when the stars align or something lands at your door-step; that difference is slight in my opinion.

I actually find it hard to believe that he's still trying to be the very best, especially if the reasoning is that he's looking for the right teammates to start shifting gears. because in my opinion, that's something you take the initiative to seek out yourself as if every moment is getting wasted doing otherwise.

On August 23 2015 14:02 nanaoei wrote:
unlocked like dende and gohan?
old but not obsolete? (singinator)

fair enough, I understand he has good work ethic and he must have something to have gotten this far.
I only hope he works on some small things that seem a lot like habits to me. I'm just being hard on him for clicking hotkeys and stuff, and as a fan I'd wanna see him do amazingly well.

On August 23 2015 06:30 Papercappu wrote:

BU was formed so the guys can attend ESL Frankfurt.the whole thing happened on his stream.he even promise free tickets to his friends if he qualify.they ended doing well at other tournaments & getting shot at TI qualifiers.TT was formed for fun as well at first.
sing doesnt need to play seriously because he earn more money from streaming.cant say the same about his teammates though.which is why TT ended up being serious