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Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
May 28 2015 23:18 GMT
#1521
Based on what I've seen in the quals, hes a T1 player with T2 decision making abilities. He's still better than I expected.
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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
May 28 2015 23:19 GMT
#1522
I dont think so; If you let sumail free farm he ends the game but qojqva never gets pressured and manages to do absolutely nothing. I said this when u made the fan thread for him like a year ago and nothing has changed.
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blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
May 28 2015 23:29 GMT
#1523
On May 29 2015 08:16 hunter_x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 08:14 Spicy_Curry wrote:
qojqva isnt really that good

As good as Sumail for Sure, if he plays Full Time dota he is better

How can people even think qojqva is good? He's been consistently bad for as long as I can remember. Even when he was on liquid he was massively overrated.

He's great at farming but that doesn't matter when you can't actually do anything with the farm and he hasn't been able to for over a year now.
dbssaber
Profile Joined September 2013
United States193 Posts
May 28 2015 23:31 GMT
#1524
Welp, looks like Mouz is in the market for a new team...

Heartbreaking to see Black^ lose out on TI again, especially after how well things were going for him a few months ago...
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) STYLE START SBENU ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Evander Berry Wall
Profile Joined June 2014
United States1137 Posts
May 28 2015 23:36 GMT
#1525
The jokes about Tinker losing first place status after being signed by Mouz we really supposed to just be jokes.

Amazing.
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
May 29 2015 00:39 GMT
#1526
I bet if Black sees any VG players in real life right now he'll straight up murder them in cold blood rofl

from guaranteed TI invite to not even be able to go as the wild card it must have sucked for him.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 29 2015 01:07 GMT
#1527
Well, they were calling him Qgod. Qojqva sometimes impresses, sometimes he doesn't. At his best, he's qgod.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
May 29 2015 01:07 GMT
#1528
On May 29 2015 09:39 ref4 wrote:
I bet if Black sees any VG players in real life right now he'll straight up murder them in cold blood rofl

from guaranteed TI invite to not even be able to go as the wild card it must have sucked for him.

same thing could be said about pie.
shouldbeworking
Profile Joined October 2014
946 Posts
May 29 2015 01:12 GMT
#1529
On May 29 2015 09:39 ref4 wrote:
I bet if Black sees any VG players in real life right now he'll straight up murder them in cold blood rofl

from guaranteed TI invite to not even be able to go as the wild card it must have sucked for him.



Why? He should be thankful. Its obvious now that they carried him. He never carried them like Hao did on his PL on some games.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
May 29 2015 01:42 GMT
#1530
On May 29 2015 10:07 Froadac wrote:
Well, they were calling him Qgod. Qojqva sometimes impresses, sometimes he doesn't. At his best, he's qgod.

hes qqgod.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
May 29 2015 03:38 GMT
#1531
Qojqva isn't that good as evident from this whole qualifier. All I saw was pretty top tier laning and farming, but terrible decision making.
Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
May 29 2015 04:02 GMT
#1532
On May 29 2015 10:12 shouldbeworking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 09:39 ref4 wrote:
I bet if Black sees any VG players in real life right now he'll straight up murder them in cold blood rofl

from guaranteed TI invite to not even be able to go as the wild card it must have sucked for him.



Why? He should be thankful. Its obvious now that they carried him. He never carried them like Hao did on his PL on some games.


After/during DAC black was getting universal praise that I recall. His decision making (especially on his medusa) was heavily praised as well as his farming.

Support was the position where the other teams outplayed tinker hard. Some poor drafts hurt them as well (or poorly executed).
Push 2 Harder
Snorkle
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1648 Posts
May 29 2015 04:08 GMT
#1533
tinker/mouz problem is they have two players who only know how to hit creeps and no idea what to do with 700gpm/xpm to actually win the game.
Mutineer
Profile Joined March 2013
New Zealand179 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-29 04:53:41
May 29 2015 04:52 GMT
#1534
As I see it, in game 2 they tryed draft which was good but demanding precise execution and fast pased game and fall short.
IN game 3 they choise very conservative draft and make a lots of mistakes in positioning. Like last figth, all 5 group together so 5 man sand storrm (if I remember corectly) kill everybody. It was simular mistakes in game 2 and simular early in game 3. It is like they forgot positionings, when idea was in bouth cases black at front, team behind. IN bouth cases spread out figth benefited there team but insted of that they all bunch together and do not blame black. in bought cases black played well, but it team make such simple positioning errors....
Saki [NETOGE]
Profile Joined November 2014
United States235 Posts
May 29 2015 04:54 GMT
#1535
Mouz's problem was the supports couldn't match up to Black and Qojqva. They're drafting was meh, and they couldn't capitalize.
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Mutineer
Profile Joined March 2013
New Zealand179 Posts
May 29 2015 05:01 GMT
#1536
Other example of positioning error, in one top T3 figth Winter wowern was charged. WHy he eevr come into vision?
Black had hart, was resonably tanky so wowenr was able to stay far behind out of vision and save AM when needed, insted he move forward and got charget..
Flacracker
Profile Joined February 2014
1116 Posts
May 29 2015 05:12 GMT
#1537
It is obvious they wouldn't have even beaten Complexity, given that they just 3-0'ed NAR.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-29 07:36:08
May 29 2015 07:33 GMT
#1538
On May 29 2015 08:19 Spicy_Curry wrote:
I dont think so; If you let sumail free farm he ends the game but qojqva never gets pressured and manages to do absolutely nothing. I said this when u made the fan thread for him like a year ago and nothing has changed.

Thats just not true. If You say it like this, it sounds like its only Sumail winning. But it only works, because he has great support players. Also i have seen quite a lot of sufail lately, the diffrence is even when Sumail plays Bad, his team can still Carry him. What do Qojqva and Black have? Wayto and bulba...You cant Even compare it. If You would let qojqva Play for EG instead of Sumail, i bet nothing would change....also Qojqva has final Exams right now, which is super important for your Future in Germany. So he isnt practising that much.
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
May 29 2015 07:35 GMT
#1539
Qojqva is terribly overrated. Maybe if he was full-time he'd become more robust but his playstyle is very narrow and outside of a small handful of heroes his play is just not that impressive. It's been like this.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
May 29 2015 07:39 GMT
#1540
On May 29 2015 16:35 FHDH wrote:
Qojqva is terribly overrated. Maybe if he was full-time he'd become more robust but his playstyle is very narrow and outside of a small handful of heroes his play is just not that impressive. It's been like this.

Ok i think i give up. The Qojqva is so Bad bandwagon is just to strong here. Talking about overrated i know a Secret Player too..
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