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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 11 2016 05:03 GMT
#601
On May 11 2016 13:12 CxWiLL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 11:13 goody153 wrote:
my internet went to hell yesterday so i didn't see the EG-newbee

EG is at least in a better state than secret so i did not expect another 2-0 but a 2-1

On May 11 2016 07:05 CxWiLL wrote:
People laughed at kpii's naga in TI5.
Kpii has 358apm on the naga game vs EG. His spread of illusions is actually beautiful to watch.

#hardworkpayingoff

He was so bad with naga during TI5 but yeah it definitely improved lol


What I am saying is he might have one of the better Naga among the pros.

I have noticed some of his micros details which I have never seen on other pros.
like laning stage, he consistently send illusions to kill the boar, which actually make him winning the solo lane against the BM.
in the late game stage, every time he spawn illusions, he pull one of the illusions backwards, just like people usually do to their main naga.
Not to mention how he send some of the illusion for scouting and vision instead of farming.
People complaint why Bulba didn't send a hawk to the rosh pit, he actually did, but the hawk was kill by radiance burn of an illusion.


He's improved, a lot. Which is nice to see. Trash-tier dota isn't that fun to watch. It also, on reflection, made Game 2 some pretty damn awesome Dota. I wanted EG to win, but that was one amazing game that really did come down to the thinnest of margins. Kpii's move into the Dire Jungle in the last major fight ended up giving them just enough space to survive.

Can someone clear up one point for me: is Chuan the in-game shot caller and Kaka the Drafter?

It's still kind of amazing the Hot Streak they're on. They only switched from 2 players from a really weak team (that did manage to make it to the Shanghai Major). Though it's mostly built on the Chuan/Kaka support play. Those guys are really working well together, and it gives them a really good chance to win Epicenter. (They're all but assured a Top 3 finish, given whoever comes out of Group A probably will lose to them.)
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11446 Posts
May 11 2016 06:58 GMT
#602
I actually have no idea how kpii is doing well, especially on a naga that he was sooooo terrible on.
rep0man
Profile Joined December 2015
Australia28 Posts
May 11 2016 08:18 GMT
#603
On May 11 2016 15:58 DucK- wrote:
I actually have no idea how kpii is doing well, especially on a naga that he was sooooo terrible on.

I really don't understand this comment
Like perhaps he's a good player? Sure his naga at TI wasn't winning games but he's a good player in general and considering it's a hero he was known for there was a lot of pressure especially at his biggest event. There's a reason they kept picking it for him.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11446 Posts
May 11 2016 08:21 GMT
#604
On May 11 2016 17:18 rep0man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 15:58 DucK- wrote:
I actually have no idea how kpii is doing well, especially on a naga that he was sooooo terrible on.

I really don't understand this comment
Like perhaps he's a good player? Sure his naga at TI wasn't winning games but he's a good player in general and considering it's a hero he was known for there was a lot of pressure especially at his biggest event. There's a reason they kept picking it for him.


Its like he was verybad with naga then, and using the hero pretty well now. He was quite a mediocre player then, and is pulling his weight now. A remarkable improvement, and I'm just surprised.
CxWiLL
Profile Joined May 2013
China830 Posts
May 11 2016 13:15 GMT
#605
On May 11 2016 15:58 DucK- wrote:
I actually have no idea how kpii is doing well, especially on a naga that he was sooooo terrible on.

according to dotabuff, over 100 naga games since TI5
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
May 11 2016 13:22 GMT
#606
On May 11 2016 17:18 rep0man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 15:58 DucK- wrote:
I actually have no idea how kpii is doing well, especially on a naga that he was sooooo terrible on.

I really don't understand this comment
Like perhaps he's a good player? Sure his naga at TI wasn't winning games but he's a good player in general and considering it's a hero he was known for there was a lot of pressure especially at his biggest event. There's a reason they kept picking it for him.

No in pro players standards he was pretty mediocre back then. Especially his naga was actually awful like you'd see better naga in high mmr play.

but he obviously improved so much including his naga . A good player can't be good all the time, they have to suck at some point
this is a quote
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
May 12 2016 17:27 GMT
#607
It was a great run while it lasted. But there will be more churn in the meta as more ideas get introduced, tested, and played out.

29-0 still impressive.
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lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
May 12 2016 18:19 GMT
#608
On May 13 2016 02:27 TanGeng wrote:
It was a great run while it lasted. But there will be more churn in the meta as more ideas get introduced, tested, and played out.

29-0 still impressive.


Yeah impressive to say the least. But I dont read alot into that loss since any team lose from time to time. Still think NB plays really well atm.
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
May 12 2016 18:20 GMT
#609
they gotta change some strats. OG had a really good answer to their strat
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
CxWiLL
Profile Joined May 2013
China830 Posts
May 13 2016 23:56 GMT
#610
it seems kaka and kpii fell short on the large stage.
hope they can get used to it, lots of large stages are waiting for them.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44064 Posts
May 14 2016 00:05 GMT
#611
On May 13 2016 03:19 lookfirewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 02:27 TanGeng wrote:
It was a great run while it lasted. But there will be more churn in the meta as more ideas get introduced, tested, and played out.

29-0 still impressive.


Yeah impressive to say the least. But I dont read alot into that loss since any team lose from time to time. Still think NB plays really well atm.

Actually all teams lose so it's w/e
this is a quote
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 14 2016 00:56 GMT
#612
newbee should be coming to SL i-League as winners of H-Cup Seasons 4-6
not sure if as direct invite, or one of the chinese invites

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/StarLadder_i-League_StarSeries/Season_2
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/H-Cup
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MirageTaN
Profile Joined June 2012
Singapore871 Posts
May 14 2016 01:53 GMT
#613
Mu and Hao are crushing it
#TLWIN TI7, TLDota BEST TL
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 15 2016 21:17 GMT
#614
damn, sad about the 2-3 loss
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
May 15 2016 21:26 GMT
#615
On May 16 2016 06:17 opterown wrote:
damn, sad about the 2-3 loss

strange drafts in the last 2 games imo. i really have to question their decision to give hao heroes like veno and clinkz when he is in top shape
FTD
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11446 Posts
May 15 2016 21:28 GMT
#616
Hao, mu and kaka are really good.

Chuan plays a very good Lion. So many games in epicenter he leads his team to victory with good initiations.

kpii needs more lan experience I guess.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 04 2016 22:52 GMT
#617
DC beat wings, hope Newbee can take revenge
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TL+ Member
HighTimeDotA
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada1412 Posts
June 04 2016 23:32 GMT
#618
if newbee have problems dealing with a newly formed multinational dc they should hire a coach right after. they are kinda like mvp very skilled, sometimes poor draft choices, not very disciplined and take unnecessary risks which leads to throws.

go muuuuuu.
rtz is like the Bieber of dota, true Canadian treasure.
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
June 10 2016 16:37 GMT
#619
Does anyone else pronounce kpii the same way as Kaipi?
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-12 01:42:41
June 12 2016 01:42 GMT
#620
fingers crossed, but liquid look to be tough

ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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