EPTOn June 25 2016 18:32 GumBa wrote:
I'm not confident we're making ti
I'm not confident we're making ti
Even if we do, we won't go far there...
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lookfirewood
1212 Posts
Even if we do, we won't go far there... | ||
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sang
United States251 Posts
Nightsalker silence + SD Purge are already great spells against Lifestealer who leans on his Rage to get quick kills at the start of fights. With this in mind and after picking Brood 4th, Alliance bans Winter Wyvern and not Axe.... Understand this, F5 needed 3 things from their last pick (1) Good brood counter (2) long duration hard control specifically for timber (3) more spell immunity control if possible as all they had is Purge once Alliance got BKBs. This is literally the definition of Axe. Instead, of banning the most obvious brood counter and the counter that clearly fits all of their opponents needs, Alliance banned WW. I don't know if Alliance was just overconfident that F5 wouldn't pick another strength hero into timber, but you not banning axe was just absolutely mind numbingly stupid. The only way Alliance were winning that game is if they got a big lead or if their opponents started making mistakes. *edit* and now vs secret what do they do, just draft a bunch of iconic non-meta stuff. All they had to do was ban axe and their draft was perfect. full tilt mode activated... | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
They revert to predictable sub optimal comfort picks | ||
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lookfirewood
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
It's such a colossal waste of talent. All they have to do is let go of the past, and start being the edgy team that's taking risks when it matters the most. They have the talent, they have the drafter, they don't have the balls. | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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bluzi
4703 Posts
On June 25 2016 20:02 LemOn wrote: I'm not sure what'd have to happen for them to realize they are not the team to beat It's such a colossal waste of talent. All they have to do is let go of the past, and start being the edgy team that's taking risks when it matters the most. They have the talent, they have the drafter, they don't have the balls. They dont have playmaking supports or greedy supports , so we are stuck with 2 defensive supports most games , Akke has a legendary Axe i feel we should draft it at least once as a #4 vs those greedy ass teams , we are getting exploited hard , we arent greedy and we arent aggresive which mean teams can greed against us easily with no worries in the world. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
Always feels like Alliance makes them run into a wall and just win in the long run over bigger series'. The loss vs Secret really was a coinflip so meh, the loss vs Fantastic Five was unexpected in my book. Still pretty early in and I would have them easily as top2 or top3 in this if this was all bo5 games as an example. Just don't tilt, play your game and shoot for a still realistic 2nd or 3rd place if they start winning now | ||
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-y0shi-
Germany994 Posts
Btw maybe one of you guys can help me, I just bought an alliance pennant and now I read somewhere that they dont do anything anymore? In this case, why can I still buy them? | ||
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bluzi
4703 Posts
On June 25 2016 20:43 Toadesstern wrote: I feel like their defensive play should give them a decent edge on those agressive, mostly CIS teams though. Always feels like Alliance makes them run into a wall and just win in the long run over bigger series'. The loss vs Secret really was a coinflip so meh, the loss vs Fantastic Five was unexpected in my book. Still pretty early in and I would have them easily as top2 or top3 in this if this was all bo5 games as an example. Just don't tilt, play your game and shoot for a still realistic 2nd or 3rd place if they start winning now This next game vs Escape is a MUST , if we lose this i dont see them going to the next round even..... | ||
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jack_knife
Germany343 Posts
On June 25 2016 18:47 sang wrote: I know its easy to blame the loss on Loda, but the truth is he was placed in a situation where he had to play into a near impossible draft. Where Alliance really lost this game was the draft...again. Nightsalker silence + SD Purge are already great spells against Lifestealer who leans on his Rage to get quick kills at the start of fights. With this in mind and after picking Brood 4th, Alliance bans Winter Wyvern and not Axe.... Understand this, F5 needed 3 things from their last pick (1) Good brood counter (2) long duration hard control specifically for timber (3) more spell immunity control if possible as all they had is Purge once Alliance got BKBs. This is literally the definition of Axe. Instead, of banning the most obvious brood counter and the counter that clearly fits all of their opponents needs, Alliance banned WW. I don't know if Alliance was just overconfident that F5 wouldn't pick another strength hero into timber, but you not banning axe was just absolutely mind numbingly stupid. The only way Alliance were winning that game is if they got a big lead or if their opponents started making mistakes. *edit* and now vs secret what do they do, just draft a bunch of iconic non-meta stuff. All they had to do was ban axe and their draft was perfect. full tilt mode activated... game1 was obviously on loda. he stopped farm somehow and kept dying in a row like 3 times b4 did any damage, [A] had the game in the bag. game2 was on draft. | ||
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kishill
Switzerland67 Posts
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Yurie
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On June 25 2016 20:57 bluzi wrote: This next game vs Escape is a MUST , if we lose this i dont see them going to the next round even..... yeah for sure. I'm a minor Escape fan so can't say I care all that much myself about it to begin with but I know how shitty I felt when Liquid got trashed by OG and MVP during the majors... so you at least got empathy comming from me if that helps | ||
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jack_knife
Germany343 Posts
On June 25 2016 21:07 kishill wrote: i really hoped for more... i just saw 2-3 days ago bulldong his stream... so bad with s4 not training just hanging in 4k trash pubs... it shows... s4 played very well today, what are u talking about? dude... | ||
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chairs
Singapore120 Posts
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lookfirewood
1212 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On June 25 2016 22:09 lookfirewood wrote: Was the game any proof of hope? Or did they luck out? looked pretty horrible early on but something happened early midgame and they got into a super dominant position again. Can't tell what it was, was watching the multistream at that time but they looked good once they had control of the game | ||
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sunrazgriz
Vatican City State1573 Posts
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Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
On June 25 2016 22:15 Toadesstern wrote: looked pretty horrible early on but something happened early midgame and they got into a super dominant position again. Can't tell what it was, was watching the multistream at that time but they looked good once they had control of the game It was remarkably weird, esc gaming was playing super well making all the right choices and suddenly, they went full retard and Alliance just took their chance and win the game with some good rotations | ||
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