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Could be strong. S4 is probably the best position 3 player alongside Sumail and RTZ possible, I still think it's a weak duo though. They have a seasoned captain that doesn't want to play 4, so that should help as well.
How hungry they are is another question though, I see low chances for TI for a multitude of reasons. But they could become a strong team nevertheless.
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This is easily the strongest EG line up of all time but i felt like they're still going to fail
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On May 29 2018 05:12 550 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 05:05 arghyad1 wrote:On May 29 2018 04:52 550 wrote:On May 29 2018 04:04 spudde123 wrote:On May 29 2018 03:52 550 wrote:
the normal route for replacement
would be some team from the same region as OG
but is there any decent EU team left? that would be the correct standard though OG wasn't really an EU invite. They got invited because they were in the top10 in the DPC at the time of the invites. Based on that I would assume they will ask Optic first and then Fnatic from the surface it does look like OG got theirs from EU standpoint, considering: they based the first 3 from non CN DPC then they invited 3 from CN DPC(the remaining teams are CN anyway) then they based the last 4 invites on regions which are non CN they invited EG over optic due to that time Optic havent won their first event yet, thus making it weird to place optic above EG the rest of CIS SEA EU was also number1 team on their respective region at that moment idk though things to consider probably Visa status / Votes / Regions which confuses me when people (ppd especially), called them out on inviting EG n Navi when he's supposed to know what they were based on, at that period if anything SA (as they should) deservingly ignored over EU n CIS being considered two regions for the last 4 invites At the time the qualifiers were sent out the invited teams were the top 10 teams DPC point wise. Your break-up analysis is just a coincidence. Hoping 1 top team like LGD, VP or Liquid also pulls out to take rest before TI and both Fnatic & Optic play in Supermajor. They are the next 2 DPC teams on the table that are not in the tourney. at the time of before and after epicenter: https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/8hh403/dpc_ranking_epicenter_xl_5th_may_2018/if it was going from Top-Btm of DPC (non cn team prioritized) then it should be both MINESKI and Fnatic (being higher than OG), i think the TO-s would want not to be judged for inviting two SEA teams, therefore they went for OG so i think it is because Fnatic was SEA, therefore they went to EU. therefore i think its no coincidence they went for 1 SEA NA EU CIS (non cn)? isit not?
The invites were actually decided long before that (actually sometime before DAC). These organisers don't decide & send out invites on the same day you know.
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On May 29 2018 05:15 arghyad1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 05:12 550 wrote:On May 29 2018 05:05 arghyad1 wrote:On May 29 2018 04:52 550 wrote:On May 29 2018 04:04 spudde123 wrote:On May 29 2018 03:52 550 wrote:
the normal route for replacement
would be some team from the same region as OG
but is there any decent EU team left? that would be the correct standard though OG wasn't really an EU invite. They got invited because they were in the top10 in the DPC at the time of the invites. Based on that I would assume they will ask Optic first and then Fnatic from the surface it does look like OG got theirs from EU standpoint, considering: they based the first 3 from non CN DPC then they invited 3 from CN DPC(the remaining teams are CN anyway) then they based the last 4 invites on regions which are non CN they invited EG over optic due to that time Optic havent won their first event yet, thus making it weird to place optic above EG the rest of CIS SEA EU was also number1 team on their respective region at that moment idk though things to consider probably Visa status / Votes / Regions which confuses me when people (ppd especially), called them out on inviting EG n Navi when he's supposed to know what they were based on, at that period if anything SA (as they should) deservingly ignored over EU n CIS being considered two regions for the last 4 invites At the time the qualifiers were sent out the invited teams were the top 10 teams DPC point wise. Your break-up analysis is just a coincidence. Hoping 1 top team like LGD, VP or Liquid also pulls out to take rest before TI and both Fnatic & Optic play in Supermajor. They are the next 2 DPC teams on the table that are not in the tourney. at the time of before and after epicenter: https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/8hh403/dpc_ranking_epicenter_xl_5th_may_2018/if it was going from Top-Btm of DPC (non cn team prioritized) then it should be both MINESKI and Fnatic (being higher than OG), i think the TO-s would want not to be judged for inviting two SEA teams, therefore they went for OG so i think it is because Fnatic was SEA, therefore they went to EU. therefore i think its no coincidence they went for 1 SEA NA EU CIS (non cn)? isit not? The invites were actually decided long before that (actually sometime before DAC). These organisers don't decide & send out invites on the same day you know.
uhh.
i think the significant portion of the standings remain the same before and after epicenter have always been in that order
the hypothesis here is that it referred to standings BEFORE epicenter
therefore by region, Navi is above FTM
(the invite was announced mid epicenter)
and in no circumstance ever was OG above Fnatic
fnatic position also did not change during DAC
so either looking at it from Region standpoint based on DPC
or pure DPC, or pure Region,
if they went for dpc as you said, then
they only screwed over fnatic, in hopes of not being judged for inviting SEA,
but if they originally went for region,
then they did no such thing / were not influenced
therefore OG is invited because (remaining EU number 1)
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Unbelievable!!! I wouldn't have thought this turn. I mean, s4 - yes, it was a possibility; but FLY - the heart (and the brain) of OG????
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On May 29 2018 05:13 WolfintheSheep wrote:Isn't Fly Canadian?
yes he is  but it's understandable most people think he just came from Israel.
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This looks strong, but i am not convinced.
There is something with RTZ and Envy teams, that always goes short. Maybe RTZ and Sumail grew enough to be worthy teamates.
An extra awesome team is always good to have, lets hope they can make it work.
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On May 29 2018 05:11 Pontual wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 05:06 Racket wrote:
What I don't understand is, people were asking for NaVi to not be allowed to play ESL because of one change to its roster, but so far I haven't seen any comment of EG and the Supermajor. This community is quite weird. Oh no, what happened is that Na'vi didn't deserve their invite because it was based on the dpc points from a player they acquired EG and Na'vi being invited to Supermajor is awful and got a lot of criticism
No. It wasn't like that. A lot of comments not here specifically but reddit for instance, asked for NaVi to be replaced at ESL as they changed its roster. Maybe tomorrow I will find one like that about EG, but none so far.
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On May 29 2018 05:21 550 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 05:15 arghyad1 wrote:On May 29 2018 05:12 550 wrote:On May 29 2018 05:05 arghyad1 wrote:On May 29 2018 04:52 550 wrote:On May 29 2018 04:04 spudde123 wrote:On May 29 2018 03:52 550 wrote:
the normal route for replacement
would be some team from the same region as OG
but is there any decent EU team left? that would be the correct standard though OG wasn't really an EU invite. They got invited because they were in the top10 in the DPC at the time of the invites. Based on that I would assume they will ask Optic first and then Fnatic from the surface it does look like OG got theirs from EU standpoint, considering: they based the first 3 from non CN DPC then they invited 3 from CN DPC(the remaining teams are CN anyway) then they based the last 4 invites on regions which are non CN they invited EG over optic due to that time Optic havent won their first event yet, thus making it weird to place optic above EG the rest of CIS SEA EU was also number1 team on their respective region at that moment idk though things to consider probably Visa status / Votes / Regions which confuses me when people (ppd especially), called them out on inviting EG n Navi when he's supposed to know what they were based on, at that period if anything SA (as they should) deservingly ignored over EU n CIS being considered two regions for the last 4 invites At the time the qualifiers were sent out the invited teams were the top 10 teams DPC point wise. Your break-up analysis is just a coincidence. Hoping 1 top team like LGD, VP or Liquid also pulls out to take rest before TI and both Fnatic & Optic play in Supermajor. They are the next 2 DPC teams on the table that are not in the tourney. at the time of before and after epicenter: https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/8hh403/dpc_ranking_epicenter_xl_5th_may_2018/if it was going from Top-Btm of DPC (non cn team prioritized) then it should be both MINESKI and Fnatic (being higher than OG), i think the TO-s would want not to be judged for inviting two SEA teams, therefore they went for OG so i think it is because Fnatic was SEA, therefore they went to EU. therefore i think its no coincidence they went for 1 SEA NA EU CIS (non cn)? isit not? The invites were actually decided long before that (actually sometime before DAC). These organisers don't decide & send out invites on the same day you know. uhh. i think the significant portion of the standings remain the same before and after epicenter have always been in that order the hypothesis here is that it referred to standings BEFORE epicenter therefore by region, Navi is above FTM (the invite was announced mid epicenter) and in no circumstance ever was OG above Fnatic fnatic position also did not change during DAC so either looking at it from Region standpoint based on DPC or pure DPC, or pure Region, if they went for dpc as you said, then they only screwed over fnatic, in hopes of not being judged for inviting SEA, but if they originally went for region, then they did no such thing / were not influenced therefore OG is invited because (remaining EU number 1)
Iirc Fnatic was behind OG before Dreamleague. Anyway, this hardly matters now as the teams won't change.
Regarding EG roster, the player I noticed for bad play in the last month has been Sumail. He overextended and fed uselessly a lot in the offlane, and seemed very cocky in his playstyle specially against weaker teams that got him punished many times. I don't really like the mindset Sumail seems to have nowadays. Let's see how it works with him going mid, but if he still dives & dies it will be a lot costlier for the team now.
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On May 29 2018 05:11 arghyad1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 05:06 Racket wrote:
What I don't understand is, people were asking for NaVi to not be allowed to play ESL because of one change to its roster, but so far I haven't seen any comment of EG and the Supermajor. This community is quite weird. EG has actually become a very good team on paper with multiple previous TI & major winners in their roster. Na'vi brought in 1 players who was completely unaccomplished and Li'l who is not a crowd favourite. I guess this is why people are ok with EG as they are expected to be among the top contenders for the supermajor top 4 at least on paper.
I don't think it has anything to do with being competitive, I feel it is just NaVi hate.
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On May 29 2018 05:21 550 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 05:15 arghyad1 wrote:On May 29 2018 05:12 550 wrote:On May 29 2018 05:05 arghyad1 wrote:On May 29 2018 04:52 550 wrote:On May 29 2018 04:04 spudde123 wrote:On May 29 2018 03:52 550 wrote:
the normal route for replacement
would be some team from the same region as OG
but is there any decent EU team left? that would be the correct standard though OG wasn't really an EU invite. They got invited because they were in the top10 in the DPC at the time of the invites. Based on that I would assume they will ask Optic first and then Fnatic from the surface it does look like OG got theirs from EU standpoint, considering: they based the first 3 from non CN DPC then they invited 3 from CN DPC(the remaining teams are CN anyway) then they based the last 4 invites on regions which are non CN they invited EG over optic due to that time Optic havent won their first event yet, thus making it weird to place optic above EG the rest of CIS SEA EU was also number1 team on their respective region at that moment idk though things to consider probably Visa status / Votes / Regions which confuses me when people (ppd especially), called them out on inviting EG n Navi when he's supposed to know what they were based on, at that period if anything SA (as they should) deservingly ignored over EU n CIS being considered two regions for the last 4 invites At the time the qualifiers were sent out the invited teams were the top 10 teams DPC point wise. Your break-up analysis is just a coincidence. Hoping 1 top team like LGD, VP or Liquid also pulls out to take rest before TI and both Fnatic & Optic play in Supermajor. They are the next 2 DPC teams on the table that are not in the tourney. at the time of before and after epicenter: https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/8hh403/dpc_ranking_epicenter_xl_5th_may_2018/if it was going from Top-Btm of DPC (non cn team prioritized) then it should be both MINESKI and Fnatic (being higher than OG), i think the TO-s would want not to be judged for inviting two SEA teams, therefore they went for OG so i think it is because Fnatic was SEA, therefore they went to EU. therefore i think its no coincidence they went for 1 SEA NA EU CIS (non cn)? isit not? The invites were actually decided long before that (actually sometime before DAC). These organisers don't decide & send out invites on the same day you know. uhh. i think the significant portion of the standings remain the same before and after epicenter have always been in that order the hypothesis here is that it referred to standings BEFORE epicenter therefore by region, Navi is above FTM (the invite was announced mid epicenter) and in no circumstance ever was OG above Fnatic fnatic position also did not change during DAC so either looking at it from Region standpoint based on DPC or pure DPC, or pure Region, if they went for dpc as you said, then they only screwed over fnatic, in hopes of not being judged for inviting SEA, but if they originally went for region, then they did no such thing / were not influenced therefore OG is invited because (remaining EU number 1)
Invites were decided roughly early March, before Dreamleague. Dreamleague was the first time Fnatic passed OG in points, and the invited teams were literally the top 10 of the DPC pre-Dreamleague.
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admiral bulldog on life support
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On May 29 2018 05:34 arghyad1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 05:21 550 wrote:On May 29 2018 05:15 arghyad1 wrote:On May 29 2018 05:12 550 wrote:On May 29 2018 05:05 arghyad1 wrote:On May 29 2018 04:52 550 wrote:On May 29 2018 04:04 spudde123 wrote:On May 29 2018 03:52 550 wrote:
the normal route for replacement
would be some team from the same region as OG
but is there any decent EU team left? that would be the correct standard though OG wasn't really an EU invite. They got invited because they were in the top10 in the DPC at the time of the invites. Based on that I would assume they will ask Optic first and then Fnatic from the surface it does look like OG got theirs from EU standpoint, considering: they based the first 3 from non CN DPC then they invited 3 from CN DPC(the remaining teams are CN anyway) then they based the last 4 invites on regions which are non CN they invited EG over optic due to that time Optic havent won their first event yet, thus making it weird to place optic above EG the rest of CIS SEA EU was also number1 team on their respective region at that moment idk though things to consider probably Visa status / Votes / Regions which confuses me when people (ppd especially), called them out on inviting EG n Navi when he's supposed to know what they were based on, at that period if anything SA (as they should) deservingly ignored over EU n CIS being considered two regions for the last 4 invites At the time the qualifiers were sent out the invited teams were the top 10 teams DPC point wise. Your break-up analysis is just a coincidence. Hoping 1 top team like LGD, VP or Liquid also pulls out to take rest before TI and both Fnatic & Optic play in Supermajor. They are the next 2 DPC teams on the table that are not in the tourney. at the time of before and after epicenter: https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/8hh403/dpc_ranking_epicenter_xl_5th_may_2018/if it was going from Top-Btm of DPC (non cn team prioritized) then it should be both MINESKI and Fnatic (being higher than OG), i think the TO-s would want not to be judged for inviting two SEA teams, therefore they went for OG so i think it is because Fnatic was SEA, therefore they went to EU. therefore i think its no coincidence they went for 1 SEA NA EU CIS (non cn)? isit not? The invites were actually decided long before that (actually sometime before DAC). These organisers don't decide & send out invites on the same day you know. uhh. i think the significant portion of the standings remain the same before and after epicenter have always been in that order the hypothesis here is that it referred to standings BEFORE epicenter therefore by region, Navi is above FTM (the invite was announced mid epicenter) and in no circumstance ever was OG above Fnatic fnatic position also did not change during DAC so either looking at it from Region standpoint based on DPC or pure DPC, or pure Region, if they went for dpc as you said, then they only screwed over fnatic, in hopes of not being judged for inviting SEA, but if they originally went for region, then they did no such thing / were not influenced therefore OG is invited because (remaining EU number 1) Iirc Fnatic was behind OG before Dreamleague. Anyway, this hardly matters now as the teams won't change. Regarding EG roster, the player I noticed for bad play in the last month has been Sumail. He overextended and fed uselessly a lot in the offlane, and seemed very cocky in his playstyle specially against weaker teams that got him punished many times. I don't really like the mindset Sumail seems to have nowadays. Let's see how it works with him going mid, but if he still dives & dies it will be a lot costlier for the team now.
yup, i guess it hardly matters
but fnatic gained 90x3 on dreamleague? so i think they were still above OG at 682 if the reddit post was correct, not sure though
its just annoying sometimes to see some on twitch chat accusing this and that without realizing they are the ones being outright wrong,biased, or unjust
most TO's r probably conscious of being neutral
(in certain tournaments they even waive inviting +1 local team)
but yaknow, online ppl.
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On May 29 2018 05:36 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 05:21 550 wrote:On May 29 2018 05:15 arghyad1 wrote:On May 29 2018 05:12 550 wrote:On May 29 2018 05:05 arghyad1 wrote:On May 29 2018 04:52 550 wrote:On May 29 2018 04:04 spudde123 wrote:On May 29 2018 03:52 550 wrote:
the normal route for replacement
would be some team from the same region as OG
but is there any decent EU team left? that would be the correct standard though OG wasn't really an EU invite. They got invited because they were in the top10 in the DPC at the time of the invites. Based on that I would assume they will ask Optic first and then Fnatic from the surface it does look like OG got theirs from EU standpoint, considering: they based the first 3 from non CN DPC then they invited 3 from CN DPC(the remaining teams are CN anyway) then they based the last 4 invites on regions which are non CN they invited EG over optic due to that time Optic havent won their first event yet, thus making it weird to place optic above EG the rest of CIS SEA EU was also number1 team on their respective region at that moment idk though things to consider probably Visa status / Votes / Regions which confuses me when people (ppd especially), called them out on inviting EG n Navi when he's supposed to know what they were based on, at that period if anything SA (as they should) deservingly ignored over EU n CIS being considered two regions for the last 4 invites At the time the qualifiers were sent out the invited teams were the top 10 teams DPC point wise. Your break-up analysis is just a coincidence. Hoping 1 top team like LGD, VP or Liquid also pulls out to take rest before TI and both Fnatic & Optic play in Supermajor. They are the next 2 DPC teams on the table that are not in the tourney. at the time of before and after epicenter: https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/8hh403/dpc_ranking_epicenter_xl_5th_may_2018/if it was going from Top-Btm of DPC (non cn team prioritized) then it should be both MINESKI and Fnatic (being higher than OG), i think the TO-s would want not to be judged for inviting two SEA teams, therefore they went for OG so i think it is because Fnatic was SEA, therefore they went to EU. therefore i think its no coincidence they went for 1 SEA NA EU CIS (non cn)? isit not? The invites were actually decided long before that (actually sometime before DAC). These organisers don't decide & send out invites on the same day you know. uhh. i think the significant portion of the standings remain the same before and after epicenter have always been in that order the hypothesis here is that it referred to standings BEFORE epicenter therefore by region, Navi is above FTM (the invite was announced mid epicenter) and in no circumstance ever was OG above Fnatic fnatic position also did not change during DAC so either looking at it from Region standpoint based on DPC or pure DPC, or pure Region, if they went for dpc as you said, then they only screwed over fnatic, in hopes of not being judged for inviting SEA, but if they originally went for region, then they did no such thing / were not influenced therefore OG is invited because (remaining EU number 1) Invites were decided roughly early March, before Dreamleague. Dreamleague was the first time Fnatic passed OG in points, and the invited teams were literally the top 10 of the DPC pre-Dreamleague.
but theres something im unsure of
they attended Dreamleague with Universe
official news of Universe joining came out Jan 13, 2018
dreamleague was at March 21, 2018
therefore doesnt it mean
they already had more DPC than OG before dreamleague
by the time Universe joined
so the reddit post referring to fnatic in dreamleague was using an out of date fnatic roster
(i dont know man, maybe ur right)
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On May 29 2018 06:03 550 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 05:36 WolfintheSheep wrote:On May 29 2018 05:21 550 wrote:On May 29 2018 05:15 arghyad1 wrote:On May 29 2018 05:12 550 wrote:On May 29 2018 05:05 arghyad1 wrote:On May 29 2018 04:52 550 wrote:On May 29 2018 04:04 spudde123 wrote:On May 29 2018 03:52 550 wrote:
the normal route for replacement
would be some team from the same region as OG
but is there any decent EU team left? that would be the correct standard though OG wasn't really an EU invite. They got invited because they were in the top10 in the DPC at the time of the invites. Based on that I would assume they will ask Optic first and then Fnatic from the surface it does look like OG got theirs from EU standpoint, considering: they based the first 3 from non CN DPC then they invited 3 from CN DPC(the remaining teams are CN anyway) then they based the last 4 invites on regions which are non CN they invited EG over optic due to that time Optic havent won their first event yet, thus making it weird to place optic above EG the rest of CIS SEA EU was also number1 team on their respective region at that moment idk though things to consider probably Visa status / Votes / Regions which confuses me when people (ppd especially), called them out on inviting EG n Navi when he's supposed to know what they were based on, at that period if anything SA (as they should) deservingly ignored over EU n CIS being considered two regions for the last 4 invites At the time the qualifiers were sent out the invited teams were the top 10 teams DPC point wise. Your break-up analysis is just a coincidence. Hoping 1 top team like LGD, VP or Liquid also pulls out to take rest before TI and both Fnatic & Optic play in Supermajor. They are the next 2 DPC teams on the table that are not in the tourney. at the time of before and after epicenter: https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/8hh403/dpc_ranking_epicenter_xl_5th_may_2018/if it was going from Top-Btm of DPC (non cn team prioritized) then it should be both MINESKI and Fnatic (being higher than OG), i think the TO-s would want not to be judged for inviting two SEA teams, therefore they went for OG so i think it is because Fnatic was SEA, therefore they went to EU. therefore i think its no coincidence they went for 1 SEA NA EU CIS (non cn)? isit not? The invites were actually decided long before that (actually sometime before DAC). These organisers don't decide & send out invites on the same day you know. uhh. i think the significant portion of the standings remain the same before and after epicenter have always been in that order the hypothesis here is that it referred to standings BEFORE epicenter therefore by region, Navi is above FTM (the invite was announced mid epicenter) and in no circumstance ever was OG above Fnatic fnatic position also did not change during DAC so either looking at it from Region standpoint based on DPC or pure DPC, or pure Region, if they went for dpc as you said, then they only screwed over fnatic, in hopes of not being judged for inviting SEA, but if they originally went for region, then they did no such thing / were not influenced therefore OG is invited because (remaining EU number 1) Invites were decided roughly early March, before Dreamleague. Dreamleague was the first time Fnatic passed OG in points, and the invited teams were literally the top 10 of the DPC pre-Dreamleague. but theres a catch they attended Dreamleague with Universe official news of Universe joining came out Jan 13, 2018 dreamleague was at March 21, 2018 therefore infact they already had more DPC than OG before dreamleague by the time Universe joined so the reddit post referring to fnatic in dreamleague was using an out of date fnatic roster (i think?) therefore top10 DPC supposed to be Fnatic there, instead of OG
Er, no?  Dota Pro Circuit/Rankings/Players
630 > 614. Easy maths.
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On May 29 2018 06:07 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 06:03 550 wrote:On May 29 2018 05:36 WolfintheSheep wrote:On May 29 2018 05:21 550 wrote:On May 29 2018 05:15 arghyad1 wrote:On May 29 2018 05:12 550 wrote:On May 29 2018 05:05 arghyad1 wrote:On May 29 2018 04:52 550 wrote:On May 29 2018 04:04 spudde123 wrote:On May 29 2018 03:52 550 wrote:
the normal route for replacement
would be some team from the same region as OG
but is there any decent EU team left? that would be the correct standard though OG wasn't really an EU invite. They got invited because they were in the top10 in the DPC at the time of the invites. Based on that I would assume they will ask Optic first and then Fnatic from the surface it does look like OG got theirs from EU standpoint, considering: they based the first 3 from non CN DPC then they invited 3 from CN DPC(the remaining teams are CN anyway) then they based the last 4 invites on regions which are non CN they invited EG over optic due to that time Optic havent won their first event yet, thus making it weird to place optic above EG the rest of CIS SEA EU was also number1 team on their respective region at that moment idk though things to consider probably Visa status / Votes / Regions which confuses me when people (ppd especially), called them out on inviting EG n Navi when he's supposed to know what they were based on, at that period if anything SA (as they should) deservingly ignored over EU n CIS being considered two regions for the last 4 invites At the time the qualifiers were sent out the invited teams were the top 10 teams DPC point wise. Your break-up analysis is just a coincidence. Hoping 1 top team like LGD, VP or Liquid also pulls out to take rest before TI and both Fnatic & Optic play in Supermajor. They are the next 2 DPC teams on the table that are not in the tourney. at the time of before and after epicenter: https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/8hh403/dpc_ranking_epicenter_xl_5th_may_2018/if it was going from Top-Btm of DPC (non cn team prioritized) then it should be both MINESKI and Fnatic (being higher than OG), i think the TO-s would want not to be judged for inviting two SEA teams, therefore they went for OG so i think it is because Fnatic was SEA, therefore they went to EU. therefore i think its no coincidence they went for 1 SEA NA EU CIS (non cn)? isit not? The invites were actually decided long before that (actually sometime before DAC). These organisers don't decide & send out invites on the same day you know. uhh. i think the significant portion of the standings remain the same before and after epicenter have always been in that order the hypothesis here is that it referred to standings BEFORE epicenter therefore by region, Navi is above FTM (the invite was announced mid epicenter) and in no circumstance ever was OG above Fnatic fnatic position also did not change during DAC so either looking at it from Region standpoint based on DPC or pure DPC, or pure Region, if they went for dpc as you said, then they only screwed over fnatic, in hopes of not being judged for inviting SEA, but if they originally went for region, then they did no such thing / were not influenced therefore OG is invited because (remaining EU number 1) Invites were decided roughly early March, before Dreamleague. Dreamleague was the first time Fnatic passed OG in points, and the invited teams were literally the top 10 of the DPC pre-Dreamleague. but theres a catch they attended Dreamleague with Universe official news of Universe joining came out Jan 13, 2018 dreamleague was at March 21, 2018 therefore infact they already had more DPC than OG before dreamleague by the time Universe joined so the reddit post referring to fnatic in dreamleague was using an out of date fnatic roster (i think?) therefore top10 DPC supposed to be Fnatic there, instead of OG Er, no? Dota Pro Circuit/Rankings/Players630 > 614. Easy maths.
ok.
maybe you are correct
though
news came out 17 Apr 2018 by Supermajor regarding invites
at that time Fnatic seems to be above OG
680 > 630
idk true maybe they decided/referred before the announcement
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On May 29 2018 06:19 550 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2018 06:07 WolfintheSheep wrote:On May 29 2018 06:03 550 wrote:On May 29 2018 05:36 WolfintheSheep wrote:On May 29 2018 05:21 550 wrote:On May 29 2018 05:15 arghyad1 wrote:On May 29 2018 05:12 550 wrote:On May 29 2018 05:05 arghyad1 wrote:On May 29 2018 04:52 550 wrote:On May 29 2018 04:04 spudde123 wrote:
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OG wasn't really an EU invite. They got invited because they were in the top10 in the DPC at the time of the invites. Based on that I would assume they will ask Optic first and then Fnatic from the surface it does look like OG got theirs from EU standpoint, considering: they based the first 3 from non CN DPC then they invited 3 from CN DPC(the remaining teams are CN anyway) then they based the last 4 invites on regions which are non CN they invited EG over optic due to that time Optic havent won their first event yet, thus making it weird to place optic above EG the rest of CIS SEA EU was also number1 team on their respective region at that moment idk though things to consider probably Visa status / Votes / Regions which confuses me when people (ppd especially), called them out on inviting EG n Navi when he's supposed to know what they were based on, at that period if anything SA (as they should) deservingly ignored over EU n CIS being considered two regions for the last 4 invites At the time the qualifiers were sent out the invited teams were the top 10 teams DPC point wise. Your break-up analysis is just a coincidence. Hoping 1 top team like LGD, VP or Liquid also pulls out to take rest before TI and both Fnatic & Optic play in Supermajor. They are the next 2 DPC teams on the table that are not in the tourney. at the time of before and after epicenter: https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/8hh403/dpc_ranking_epicenter_xl_5th_may_2018/if it was going from Top-Btm of DPC (non cn team prioritized) then it should be both MINESKI and Fnatic (being higher than OG), i think the TO-s would want not to be judged for inviting two SEA teams, therefore they went for OG so i think it is because Fnatic was SEA, therefore they went to EU. therefore i think its no coincidence they went for 1 SEA NA EU CIS (non cn)? isit not? The invites were actually decided long before that (actually sometime before DAC). These organisers don't decide & send out invites on the same day you know. uhh. i think the significant portion of the standings remain the same before and after epicenter have always been in that order the hypothesis here is that it referred to standings BEFORE epicenter therefore by region, Navi is above FTM (the invite was announced mid epicenter) and in no circumstance ever was OG above Fnatic fnatic position also did not change during DAC so either looking at it from Region standpoint based on DPC or pure DPC, or pure Region, if they went for dpc as you said, then they only screwed over fnatic, in hopes of not being judged for inviting SEA, but if they originally went for region, then they did no such thing / were not influenced therefore OG is invited because (remaining EU number 1) Invites were decided roughly early March, before Dreamleague. Dreamleague was the first time Fnatic passed OG in points, and the invited teams were literally the top 10 of the DPC pre-Dreamleague. but theres a catch they attended Dreamleague with Universe official news of Universe joining came out Jan 13, 2018 dreamleague was at March 21, 2018 therefore infact they already had more DPC than OG before dreamleague by the time Universe joined so the reddit post referring to fnatic in dreamleague was using an out of date fnatic roster (i think?) therefore top10 DPC supposed to be Fnatic there, instead of OG Er, no? Dota Pro Circuit/Rankings/Players630 > 614. Easy maths. ok. maybe you are correct i wanna ask something news came out 17 Apr 2018 by Supermajor regarding invites at that time Fnatic seems to be above OG 680 > 630 idk true maybe they decided/referred before the announcement
On the Supermajor Invite thread.
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HUGE news, EG TI winners incoming, you heard here first.
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I have been out of the Dota 2 scene for the last six months, but seeing this roster got me fired up to play a few games to get ready to see this roll out. It feels like a repeat of the failed prophecy of the Artz secret. Really looking forward to seeing these guys succeed.
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EPT
